Should we draft a quarterback 1st overall?
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Mistakes happen but we make them over and over. The Peppers pick is turning out to be just terrible. Here's a first round pick that literally had zero impact stats. He's basically done nothing.
Mistakes happen but we make them over and over. The Peppers pick is turning out to be just terrible. Here's a first round pick that literally had zero impact stats. He's basically done nothing.
Peppers is a bust. He should be cut.
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... or it could be better than Wentz in Philly.
of course it could be. And it's possible peppers could become a better safety eventually than prime ronnie lott. It's not likely though. Again, we are talking about a 2nd year qb who may very well win the nfl mvp in his second year. Mistakes happen, but that was a damn big one.
of course it could be. And it's possible peppers could become a better safety eventually than prime ronnie lott. It's not likely though. Again, we are talking about a 2nd year qb who may very well win the nfl mvp in his second year. Mistakes happen, but that was a damn big one.
HMM you do realize Ronnie Lotts prime was his first year in the NFL when he not only made the Pro Bowl but was also 1st team All Pro.
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I say that it is entirely plausible that with a quality QB,..and a non distracted HC, this team could be at about .500 this year.
But, of course, we don't have that.
Kizer really is not ready...even after 14 games (10 reg...4 preseason)....to play QB in the NFL. And the guys behind him are worse.
Hue has too much on his plate being OC and HC. His decisions alone have probably cost 3 games.
So, as far as drafting a QB #1 next year? Sure, why not.
In my opinion, that #1 pick.....if he is the right one...will be NO FURTHER behind in his development than Kizer would be by then....unless Kizer shows an astronomical leap in his ability to learn the game.
And we HAVE to have a bifurcation of Hue's duties. I think that is the one demand that the owners/GM are going to make on him.
As for who that #1 overall QB should be?
Who gives a flying freeking fook? It don't matter. It just has to be a guy capable of handling that leadership position. The name don't matter.
Kizer really is not ready
Wishful thinking. He'll never be ready. Kizer is a bust.
"He's still young" is not an excuse for overthrowing, throwing in the dirt, or unable to throw in stride to where the receiver has to contort his body to catch a ball giving him no time to do anything after the catches it. --- That is the opinion of Jim Donovan heard on KNR talking to Tony Rizzo.
Never mind about learning to play QB at a higher level, he looks like he's never played the position before and is trying to learn it.
Terelle Pryor would have been a much better QB for the browns.
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Kizer really is not ready
Wishful thinking. He'll never be ready. Kizer is a bust.
"He's still young" is not an excuse for overthrowing, throwing in the dirt, or unable to throw in stride to where the receiver has to contort his body to catch a ball giving him no time to do anything after the catches it. --- That is the opinion of Jim Donovan heard on KNR talking to Tony Rizzo.
Never mind about learning to play QB at a higher level, he looks like he's never played the position before and is trying to learn it.
Terelle Pryor would have been a much better QB for the browns.
Wishful thinking. He'll never be ready. Kizer is a bust.
"He's still young" is not an excuse for overthrowing, throwing in the dirt, or unable to throw in stride to where the receiver has to contort his body to catch a ball giving him no time to do anything after the catches it. --- That is the opinion of Jim Donovan heard on KNR talking to Tony Rizzo.
Never mind about learning to play QB at a higher level, he looks like he's never played the position before and is trying to learn it.
Terelle Pryor would have been a much better QB for the browns.
Well....OK, maybe. He does have moments of brilliance...but then he has those other moments such as mentioned. So who knows if he will ever be a top flight QB. I would not bank on him...and would still try to go after someone else.
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Kizer really is not ready
Wishful thinking. He'll never be ready. Kizer is a bust.
"He's still young" is not an excuse for overthrowing, throwing in the dirt, or unable to throw in stride to where the receiver has to contort his body to catch a ball giving him no time to do anything after the catches it. --- That is the opinion of Jim Donovan heard on KNR talking to Tony Rizzo.
Never mind about learning to play QB at a higher level, he looks like he's never played the position before and is trying to learn it.
Terelle Pryor would have been a much better QB for the browns.
Wishful thinking. He'll never be ready. Kizer is a bust.
"He's still young" is not an excuse for overthrowing, throwing in the dirt, or unable to throw in stride to where the receiver has to contort his body to catch a ball giving him no time to do anything after the catches it. --- That is the opinion of Jim Donovan heard on KNR talking to Tony Rizzo.
Never mind about learning to play QB at a higher level, he looks like he's never played the position before and is trying to learn it.
Terelle Pryor would have been a much better QB for the browns.
Kosar was about the same age -BUT- with way more experience in college, surrounded by a better NFL team, maybe better everything including drive and ability.
To totally judge Kizer now is difficult to do the jury is still way out on that one, potential maybe, I think so......with this band of gypsies who knows if we'll ever really know, if he survives this season. Name me one other NFL quarterback past or present in his exact situation right off hand, how'd they do?
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UCLA has officially hired Chip Kelly to be their next head coach.
Not that there was much of a chance that Rosen was coming back for a senior year, but I can't see him in Kelly's offense.
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I get a feeling both darnold and Rosen will stay in school next year. I am not really counting on them. If Rosen does come out and we draft him he will be a bitch like when Eli manning got drafted.
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UCLA has officially hired Chip Kelly to be their next head coach.
Not that there was much of a chance that Rosen was coming back for a senior year, but I can't see him in Kelly's offense.
UCLA has officially hired Chip Kelly to be their next head coach.
Not that there was much of a chance that Rosen was coming back for a senior year, but I can't see him in Kelly's offense.
I saw enough or Rosen against Cal before he got hurt to say- "he's the real deal". Made throws (including a perfect fade to the corner of the end zone, loop passes over dropping LBs, and hit crossing patters dead on the money) that Kizer can only dream about making. I only question his top end mobility- saw him take a couple sacks because he looked "slow".
And if he wants to pull an Eli Manning- we extort the living daylights out of whoever wants him and take Mayfield.
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I get a feeling both darnold and Rosen will stay in school next year. I am not really counting on them. If Rosen does come out and we draft him he will be a bitch like when Eli manning got drafted.
I get a feeling both darnold and Rosen will stay in school next year. I am not really counting on them. If Rosen does come out and we draft him he will be a bitch like Eli manning got drafted.
We'll know by January 15th. If the Browns have the 1st overall, and say "we're taking you" find out soon enough.
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Taking any QB out of this upcoming draft #1 scares the hell out of me. There's so many red flags for a lot of them. Rosen, Allen, D'Arnold, even Mayfield scares me at freaking #1. Lamar Jackson I think is the safest and most athletic out of this draft class. He might be the only QB i'd take at #1.
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Seems like we've added 4 or 5 QBs in the past 2 years. I just wish they'd quit with being cute and grab the first best QB available. Hell, our first string QB is prone to migraines. Shmucking brilliant!
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Taking any QB out of this upcoming draft #1 scares the hell out of me. There's so many red flags for a lot of them. Rosen, Allen, D'Arnold, even Mayfield scares me at freaking #1. Lamar Jackson I think is the safest and most athletic out of this draft class. He might be the only QB i'd take at #1.
Taking any QB out of this upcoming draft #1 scares the hell out of me. There's so many red flags for a lot of them. Rosen, Allen, D'Arnold, even Mayfield scares me at freaking #1. Lamar Jackson I think is the safest and most athletic out of this draft class. He might be the only QB i'd take at #1.
Actually strike that. Pick freaking Barkley #1 and then pick a QB with our second first round pick. Mayfield should drop because of the crotch incident.
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Baker first. Baker's dirty dozen. Are you watching the game?
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yup
Tim Tebow thinks the Mayfield trashing is cowpoop and the kid is special.
Tim Tebow most likely thinks the world is 6000 years old and is a 30 year old virgin, so....

In all seriousness, it is going to be very entertaining to see draft scouts debate Mayfield. He's going to be polarizing.
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So does Mayfield male his team better or does he have a good supporting cast?
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yup
Tim Tebow thinks the Mayfield trashing is cowpoop and the kid is special.
Tim Tebow most likely thinks the world is 6000 years old and is a 30 year old virgin, so....

In all seriousness, it is going to be very entertaining to see draft scouts debate Mayfield. He's going to be polarizing.
Tim Tebow most likely thinks the world is 6000 years old and is a 30 year old virgin, so....

In all seriousness, it is going to be very entertaining to see draft scouts debate Mayfield. He's going to be polarizing.
Tebow worked out with mayfield and I believe what he said about making a system a QB can suceed in is true. Sign Barkley and Mayfield, dump Crow, and start making plays.
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I can't do this. Not now. The season is all but over and we are talking about the Shmucking draft? Are you kidding me? So yes let's draft a qb, let him sit on the bench for 2 years to learn, then release him and draft another one and let him sit on the bench...........This is a sure as fuk Sheet show. I don't mean to disrespect another Browns fan but I am over this looking forward to the draft. How many draft picks have we had that are ever worth a pint of piss? Until they start playing better and WINNING, I wont give a Sheet about any draft. I don't care if Manning comes here to tickle Haslam's balls. Shut up and win. just WIN them maybe I will care who the coach or president of football opp is (I still think that is a pointless job, ) So spare me we are a young team and the players are learning. I been hearing that since we came back in 1999. The FO we have now couldn't even get us a freaking KICKER! That is how bad this FO is.
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So does Mayfield male his team better or does he have a good supporting cast?
Coaching always matters. Sooners did a smart thing to go get OC Lincoln Riley from ECU before Stoops retired. Riley is so damn young but if he wants the NFL game, he has the offensive mind for it..Take a look at Mayfield's stat line when Riley was first brought in, in 2015-16 as OC/QB coach..Now in 17, Baker is blowing Riley's system up, in Riley's 1st head coaching season.
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Taking any QB out of this upcoming draft #1 scares the hell out of me. There's so many red flags for a lot of them. Rosen, Allen, D'Arnold, even Mayfield scares me at freaking #1. Lamar Jackson I think is the safest and most athletic out of this draft class. He might be the only QB i'd take at #1.
Taking any QB out of this upcoming draft #1 scares the hell out of me. There's so many red flags for a lot of them. Rosen, Allen, D'Arnold, even Mayfield scares me at freaking #1. Lamar Jackson I think is the safest and most athletic out of this draft class. He might be the only QB i'd take at #1.
Then boo hoo. Wentz had questions, so did Watson. Sooner pun intended- or later, you have to pull the trigger. Lamar Jackson might be Michael Vick- he might be RG III.
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