Haslams solicited input from players
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@boo-fagley said:
The Browns need a guy like your Father. His people respected him and did not want to let him down.
You see it in the military all the time. Bill Parcells ruled with an iron fist, but would listen and treat each player different. His guys would give 101%. Belichick is the same way and will cut you in a heartbeat.
Does your father have a background in baseball ? Perfect for us
Does your father have a background in baseball ? Perfect for us
LOL! He watched me PLAY baseball when I was a "star". He found that out when he grounded me for not doing homework and the entire team showed up saying they could not win without me in CF (my first position before catcher the next year). Their arguments went on deaf ears because analytics told him I still had more work to do that night to catch up from several weeks of neglect when baseball season started.
So even though he is dead now, I can take what I learned from that lesson and still pick better than this FO. But I'll need a modern dart gun gun and a blindfold.
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My father always said the secret of his success with Mobil Oil was going to every employee to get input, use the best ideas and then giving credit to the person who came up with those ideas in front of their peers. That always spurred on even better ideas from guys who just wanted the recognition. He made sure he got out of his office at least two hours a day regardless of how bogged down he was with "paperwork" so he could do just that. He said he even talked to guys on the mid-night watchman shift and occasionally they identified sounds that had changed in the refinery that led them to do preventive maintenance that saved units from "crashing" completely.
My father always said the secret of his success with Mobil Oil was going to every employee to get input, use the best ideas and then giving credit to the person who came up with those ideas in front of their peers. That always spurred on even better ideas from guys who just wanted the recognition. He made sure he got out of his office at least two hours a day regardless of how bogged down he was with "paperwork" so he could do just that. He said he even talked to guys on the mid-night watchman shift and occasionally they identified sounds that had changed in the refinery that led them to do preventive maintenance that saved units from "crashing" completely.
The power your Dad tapped into is unreal...
Once in the 80's an Operator in a unit I was supervising, who was widely considered to be a PITA, asked me a question, "Is there a way we can be alerted to...?" There was. I came up with an atypical, even unique, alarm set up, but there was and it solved an old issue that within a month eliminated a major source of cross-shift finger-pointing.
A month later I gave him a coffee mug... a friggin' company logo coffee mug... in the control room at shift change, in front of every one crediting him fully with sparking the innovation. His peers applauded... and he actually cried.
Only added step was making sure he knew that everyone knew he got the credit. I had my boss, whom I'd told of his role when we made the change, "happen by" a couple days later and talk to him about his idea.
But I think that these kind of coversations must be done when the direct boss is not present. People don't act the same when the one person you have to deal with on daily basis is in the room. If Haslam wanted a real input by the players, he should have kept Jackson out of the room. Keeping Sashi out but the coach in only feeds more rumours that no one in the organization needs.
Bingo..
The proven method is to hire a president of football ops. He then hires a GM who in turn picks his HC and the talent. It's a proven method. It's just a matter of hiring the right people and you keep at it until you do. Unfortunately our owner thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the league or he's just running a pilot j style scam on the fans. Either way spells a Trainwreck. His very first draft choice was based on the advice of a homeless guy. That in itself says a whole lot.
Proven how? By virtue of it being the way nearly every team has "done it" for decades and every year one team wins the championship?
When anything is the "only way" it is always the "best way" and the "worst way" at the same time.
I really, really think you guys think Haslam is doing more than he is. First off, he didn't sign off on drafting a dude because a homeless guy said so.
Agree... at least that he is further removed now.
Initially I think he did get too involved at the wrong times, e.g., the draft, and got burned or at least singed enough to back off, e.g., "Wreck this league" texts.
Now I think the only tactical decisions in which he is involved are variances to the budget, i.e., when the FO needs him to open his wallet beyond the point signed off upon in the annual budget. The Brockweiller deal immediately springs to mind here. The cost of Zeitler and Joe T's raise probably required a check with the boss as well.
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It gets dumber and dumber.
Next, they will be asking Dorothy Fuldheim for her thoughts.
If she were alive they would. And if she were alive, you and I would listen.
When I was going to law school I lived up on Shaker Square. So did Dorothy. On occasion I would see her walking around the square.
If she were alive they would. And if she were alive, you and I would listen.
When I was going to law school I lived up on Shaker Square. So did Dorothy. On occasion I would see her walking around the square.
I use to love her comments on the news.. Journalism and news reporting at its finest.. She was definitely a classy individual...
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Yeah Tour he came upon it the first job he had when one unit he was responsible for was doing 50% better than the other, both built at the same time a number of years before. He asked a lot of those around until he hit "Joe" who had been with the unit since it had started. He told my dad not only what was wrong, but what parts it needed for the fix. He said he had told others before but no one ever authorized the ordering of the parts. My dad did it immediately and Joe & crew did the fix and when it was then outproducing the "better" unit, he got called before the refinery personnel to be given an award. He called Joe out of the men gathered before him and made him come up to take the award with those comments I provided before about the smartest guy in the room. He used that method the rest of his 40 year career with Mobil.
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Sounds like a very cool, "old man", Ag...
He might even have a shot at running The Process as well as Sashi...
Sounds like a very cool, "old man", Ag...
He might even have a shot at running The Process as well as Sashi...
And from his grave (well really he was cremated) he could likely do a better job.
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My father always said the secret of his success with Mobil Oil was going to every employee to get input, use the best ideas and then giving credit to the person who came up with those ideas in front of their peers. That always spurred on even better ideas from guys who just wanted the recognition. He made sure he got out of his office at least two hours a day regardless of how bogged down he was with "paperwork" so he could do just that. He said he even talked to guys on the mid-night watchman shift and occasionally they identified sounds that had changed in the refinery that led them to do preventive maintenance that saved units from "crashing" completely.
My father always said the secret of his success with Mobil Oil was going to every employee to get input, use the best ideas and then giving credit to the person who came up with those ideas in front of their peers. That always spurred on even better ideas from guys who just wanted the recognition. He made sure he got out of his office at least two hours a day regardless of how bogged down he was with "paperwork" so he could do just that. He said he even talked to guys on the mid-night watchman shift and occasionally they identified sounds that had changed in the refinery that led them to do preventive maintenance that saved units from "crashing" completely.
There are a host of consultants who make their money like this. Listen to the folks on the floor, take the good ideas and frame up fancy white papers and bill out a cool million. The ideas often were provided by the workers but not implemented until a consultant " came up wit it".
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@boo-fagley said:
The screen name "Jimmy is my Pilot" isnt taken yet. What if Haslam signed up for TBB and asked for input?
What would you guys tell him? Seriously.
Ignore the fans; stay the course.
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@boo-fagley said:
The screen name "Jimmy is my Pilot" isnt taken yet. What if Haslam signed up for TBB and asked for input?
What would you guys tell him? Seriously.
Draft Barkley and Baker Mayfield, Force Hue to get an OC, and add a better talent evaluator to not f#$% up the draft.
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And from his grave (well really he was cremated) he could likely do a better job.
At the risk of crossing a humor line (for my first time ever
)...
Many here would see a pile of ashes running the Browns as fitting.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@boo-fagley said:
The screen name "Jimmy is my Pilot" isnt taken yet. What if Haslam signed up for TBB and asked for input?
What would you guys tell him? Seriously.
Ignore the fans; stay the course.
Ignore the fans; stay the course.
What fans?
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And from his grave (well really he was cremated) he could likely do a better job.
At the risk of crossing a humor line (for my first time ever
)...
Many here would see a pile of ashes running the Browns as fitting.
At the risk of crossing a humor line (for my first time ever
)...
Many here would see a pile of ashes running the Browns as fitting.
My Dad would approve. He told me he wanted his ashes to be thrown into the Brazos, "So I can flow deep in the Heart of Texas." We took half his ashes and half Mom's and did exactly that under the bridge that goes on the way into College Station. We spread the other halves together in Rocky Mountain National Park overlooking their favorite spot to view the winter grazing grounds of the elk. A cup of his also went behind a marker locating the site of the dormitory he lived in on the A&M campus. He would have liked the fact that we did not ask permission for any of this. Easier to get forgiveness.
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Well this is interesting: Hue may be out before season's end.
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Well this is interesting: Hue may be out before season's end.
Well this is interesting: Hue may be out before season's end.
So, what was the meeting with the players and Hue for? To cheer them up? If somebody has to be gone, I'd prefer Hue than Sashi.
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Ignore the fans; stay the course.
What fans?
What fans?
Complaining ones.
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And from his grave (well really he was cremated) he could likely do a better job.
At the risk of crossing a humor line (for my first time ever
)...
Many here would see a pile of ashes running the Browns as fitting.
At the risk of crossing a humor line (for my first time ever
)...
Many here would see a pile of ashes running the Browns as fitting.
Reminds me of one of the poems in Lord of the Rings...
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king. -
What fans?
Complaining ones.
Complaining ones.
The local fan that passed away and in his will, he requested Browns players to be pallbearers at his funeral, just so the team could let him down one last time. And they did.
Very true story....go complain about that young buck and try to understand an area before getting critical. Makes you look bad.
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this thread is humorous because a lot of it is founded on the belief that this organization is doing something different or innovative here. It's not. Now that's not a criticism or a complement....the organization over the last 2 years has had some bad calls/misses, but there isn't anything inherent in their approach or strategy that is unique or different relative to other crappy teams.
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Complaining ones.
The local fan that passed away and in his will, he requested Browns players to be pallbearers at his funeral, just so the team could let him down one last time. And they did.
Very true story....go complain about that young buck and try to understand an area before getting critical. Makes you look bad.
The local fan that passed away and in his will, he requested Browns players to be pallbearers at his funeral, just so the team could let him down one last time. And they did.
Very true story....go complain about that young buck and try to understand an area before getting critical. Makes you look bad.
Was this supposed to make me feel bad?
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Ignore the fans; stay the course.
What fans?
What fans?
Well in that case staying the course is really easy...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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