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  • How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable. 

  • And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up. So that further wears a defense down not just during the fame but over the season

  • How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable. 

    @jcam222 said:

    How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable. 

    The D is certainly not the worst we've had in the v2.0 era that's for sure, but it's also not the juggernaut that some want to say it is either. 

  • @jcam222 said:

    How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable. 

    The D is certainly not the worst we've had in the v2.0 era that's for sure, but it's also not the juggernaut that some want to say it is either. 

    @d-bone said:

    , but it's also not the juggernaut that some want to say it is either. 

    Who called it a "juggernaut"?

  • And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up. So that further wears a defense down not just during the fame but over the season

    @clevfan4life said:

    And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up.

    Dude, admit it.  This defense stinks.

    There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game.  NO team.  This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.  

  • @clevfan4life said:

    And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up.

    Dude, admit it.  This defense stinks.

    There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game.  NO team.  This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.  

    @roach said:

    Dude, admit it.  This defense stinks.

    There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game.  NO team.  This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.  

    I was impressed how much better the Rams D got simply by changing coaches.  It sure does make a difference. Especially in a coaches league like the NFL.

  • they'll all be pulling around portable oxygen last game.

  • This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

  • This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

    @nero said:

    This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

    Exactly. No depth equals play worse late in games if the O is stagnant and it means play worse with just a few pieces missing.

  • This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

    @nero said:

    This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

     In a coaches league, you need great coaching to win. Think on this one. The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one. 

  • @nero said:

    This defense goes on and off way too many times. 

    This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game. 

     In a coaches league, you need great coaching to win. Think on this one. The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one. 

    So did ours fyi

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one. 

    So did ours fyi

    @clevfan4life said:

    So did ours fyi

    The numbers say no... 0 - 11

    The anal ytics say no 0-11

    Numerology says no. 0-11

  • @clevfan4life said:

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    Points allowed is all I look for.....  

    @d-bone said:

    Points allowed is all I look for.....  

    And the browns defense would allow a lot fewer points....if they were playing with the rams offense and not getting shafted with constant red zone turn overs.

  • @d-bone said:

    Points allowed is all I look for.....  

    And the browns defense would allow a lot fewer points....if they were playing with the rams offense and not getting shafted with constant red zone turn overs.

    @roycerolls said:

    And the browns defense would allow a lot fewer points....if they were playing with the rams offense and not getting shafted with constant red zone turn overs.

    Yep, and that would fall under No Schit Sherlock......  but the bottom line is our record during The Process is a historically pathetic 1-26 overall, and an equally wimpy 0-11 this year.

    ^ Boy, those awesome "yardage allowed" and "total defense" stats sure are impressive and totally makes that all worth while..... right?

    Baby Steps 

  • That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets.  Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.

    The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016

  • That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets.  Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.

    The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets.  Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.

    The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016

    You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets.  Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.

    The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016

    You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee. 

    @d-bone said:

    You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee. 

    I wish. I've been reading up on the flying J trial. Google it. Our owner takes after his cousin... Mr Haney and not so much Jethro. He may end up in trouble yet. He hired that FO too. Tsk tsk.

  • Had to post the "Football Outsiders" drive success rates for a little perspective. Certainly not end-all-be-all but are very telling...

    Browns D- 9th in the NFL in "Drive success rate"; 4th in "Plays per drive"; 6th in "yards per drive"; 16th in "points per drive... not too shabby considering they're ranked 26th in "opponent starting field position".  Their only weakness is the lack of turnovers (ranked 24th).

    By comparison, the O is 30th in "yards per drive"; 32nd in "points per drive"; 32nd in turnovers; 31st in "TOP per drive"; and 26th in "Drive success rate"... and dont even get me started on redzone offense...

    I like these stats, while not predictive, they align with team performance pretty well...

  • By comparison, last year we finished 31st in defense "drive succesd rate"; 31st in "points per drive"; and 27th in "yards per drive".  Not to mention they were just sad to watch...

  • @d-bone said:

    2016 Rams gave up 24.6pts per game

    2017 Rams giving up 18.7pts per game

    Not the 1st time you've been wrong, and certainly not the last.......................... 

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    @clevfan4life said:

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    You see that they have like a million more wins than us right?   Who fucking cares who we are ranked ahead of in total defense.  Your awesome defense got ass raped for 30 points yesterday.  5 possessions....5 scores to start the game.   Whats the excuse for that shit this week?    

    5 possessions.......5 scores = below average to shitty defense.