Our D
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How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable.
The D is certainly not the worst we've had in the v2.0 era that's for sure, but it's also not the juggernaut that some want to say it is either.
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And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up. So that further wears a defense down not just during the fame but over the season
And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up.
Dude, admit it. This defense stinks.
There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game. NO team. This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.
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And teams run in the 2nd half because they always are up.
Dude, admit it. This defense stinks.
There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game. NO team. This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.
Dude, admit it. This defense stinks.
There is NO team this week that had to score more than 30 points to win their football game. NO team. This D is awful and Greg Williams is a joke.
I was impressed how much better the Rams D got simply by changing coaches. It sure does make a difference. Especially in a coaches league like the NFL.
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they'll all be pulling around portable oxygen last game.
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This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
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This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
Exactly. No depth equals play worse late in games if the O is stagnant and it means play worse with just a few pieces missing.
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This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
In a coaches league, you need great coaching to win. Think on this one. The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one.
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This defense goes on and off way too many times.
This sunday played a terrible game, but I also think it is because it lacks depth. We can't be decent if someone is injured. Ogbah, Collins and Meder missed this game.
In a coaches league, you need great coaching to win. Think on this one. The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one.
The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one.
So did ours fyi
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The Rams defense got way better in one off-season just by changing coaches and getting the right one.
So did ours fyi
So did ours fyi
The numbers say no... 0 - 11
The anal ytics say no 0-11
Numerology says no. 0-11
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U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?
Points allowed is all I look for.....
Points allowed is all I look for.....
And the browns defense would allow a lot fewer points....if they were playing with the rams offense and not getting shafted with constant red zone turn overs.
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And the browns defense would allow a lot fewer points....if they were playing with the rams offense and not getting shafted with constant red zone turn overs.
Yep, and that would fall under No Schit Sherlock...... but the bottom line is our record during The Process is a historically pathetic 1-26 overall, and an equally wimpy 0-11 this year.
^ Boy, those awesome "yardage allowed" and "total defense" stats sure are impressive and totally makes that all worth while..... right?
Baby Steps
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That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets. Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.
The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016
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That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets. Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.
The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016
That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets. Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.
The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016
You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee.
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That process thing got derailed less than a month after it got laid out. Now the way it works is this, Hue reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. Stosh reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. The pudpuller reports directly to Jimmy Haslam. No one know where the berry stain is or what he's supposed to do. At least that's the way it's reported by all the local media outlets. Pluto, Cabot, Drennan, Shaw, etc.
The "Process" ship sailed in early 2016
You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee.
You forgot the final, and yet most important part of the chain of command........ Jimmy reports to Dee.
I wish. I've been reading up on the flying J trial. Google it. Our owner takes after his cousin... Mr Haney and not so much Jethro. He may end up in trouble yet. He hired that FO too. Tsk tsk.
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Had to post the "Football Outsiders" drive success rates for a little perspective. Certainly not end-all-be-all but are very telling...
Browns D- 9th in the NFL in "Drive success rate"; 4th in "Plays per drive"; 6th in "yards per drive"; 16th in "points per drive... not too shabby considering they're ranked 26th in "opponent starting field position". Their only weakness is the lack of turnovers (ranked 24th).
By comparison, the O is 30th in "yards per drive"; 32nd in "points per drive"; 32nd in turnovers; 31st in "TOP per drive"; and 26th in "Drive success rate"... and dont even get me started on redzone offense...
I like these stats, while not predictive, they align with team performance pretty well...
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By comparison, last year we finished 31st in defense "drive succesd rate"; 31st in "points per drive"; and 27th in "yards per drive". Not to mention they were just sad to watch...
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U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?
You see that they have like a million more wins than us right? Who fucking cares who we are ranked ahead of in total defense. Your awesome defense got ass raped for 30 points yesterday. 5 possessions....5 scores to start the game. Whats the excuse for that shit this week?
5 possessions.......5 scores = below average to shitty defense.
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How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable.
How many of those points are given up in the 2nd half after they've been on the field way to long? Surely the lack of O time with the ball hurts. Either way to say this is the worst D we have had is laughable.
Yesterday....the first 5 times the Bengals had the ball they scored. The first 5 fucking times....So there goes the points in the 2nd half argument. There have been others. Houston, Cincy (the first time) and Indy also completely shredded this defense in the first half.
The entire team, other than a few players here and there is lousy.
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Dude they scored one td in the first quarter than 3 fg's in the 2nd. Cmon dude, put things in perspective. Im not homering for the defense, i was not pleased with their run d yesterday. So do u now understand that run defense isnt some afterthought but actually a critical part of stopping an offense? Ur the guy that said a week or so ago run d doesnt matter when it was something we were ok at. Nowvthat we lost cause our d got gashed on the run which opened up all kinds of options for the shytty bengals, what do u say now about run d? Still pointless or do u get it now?
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Dude they scored one td in the first quarter than 3 fg's in the 2nd. Cmon dude, put things in perspective. Im not homering for the defense, i was not pleased with their run d yesterday. So do u now understand that run defense isnt some afterthought but actually a critical part of stopping an offense? Ur the guy that said a week or so ago run d doesnt matter when it was something we were ok at. Nowvthat we lost cause our d got gashed on the run which opened up all kinds of options for the shytty bengals, what do u say now about run d? Still pointless or do u get it now?
Dude they scored one td in the first quarter than 3 fg's in the 2nd. Cmon dude, put things in perspective. Im not homering for the defense, i was not pleased with their run d yesterday. So do u now understand that run defense isnt some afterthought but actually a critical part of stopping an offense? Ur the guy that said a week or so ago run d doesnt matter when it was something we were ok at. Nowvthat we lost cause our d got gashed on the run which opened up all kinds of options for the shytty bengals, what do u say now about run d? Still pointless or do u get it now?
5 possessions.....5 scores. Hard to win games when you give up points on every single drive to start a game.
You are homering for the defense and their stupid ass coordinator. I never said that run defense doesn't matter. I'm the guy who said that the stupid stats you keep talking about don't matter. I've watched the team every week and the defense isn't that good. The stats that you like to post don't match up to the actual performance of the defense. Great...the defense is better than our offense....wonderful. Our offense sucks donkey ass and is the worst in the league. Doesn't take much for the defense to be better than that. Doesn't mean it's any good either. Game on the line yesterday....down 7, all the momentum in our favor and what happens. Absolutely gashed for 35 yards in 2 plays.....defense nowhere to be seen. Now we did get hosed on that penalty call on the 3rd down pass play but even after that....the Bengals went the last 35 yards in like 3 plays to score a TD and finish the game off.
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