Dorsey Hired
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BTW DePo's all time stupid comment about Wentz not being a top 20 qb proves when push came to shove who was making the picks
Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick. What he IS, is clearly a tall strong armed QB not scared to turn it loose. Anyone would think Hue Jackson had a type....
Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick.
which is part of the problem with this regime....we do need to use analytics in our approach going forward. THat would mean not signing Kenny britt,not drafting peppers, not drafting kizer....
I sure as hell hope we make decisions driven by data(the right data) and are forward thinking. That would be a welcome change.
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Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick. What he IS, is clearly a tall strong armed QB not scared to turn it loose. Anyone would think Hue Jackson had a type....
London, all I'll say at this point is there's so much innuendo and contradictory reports, we can't really decide what the hell was going on. Guess I have a little private war going on with the consensus guys. That's OK, I really don't care anymore about the name calling. MY POV is they're sitting on the Titanic singing "My nearer my God to thee..."
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1) I have 27 examples the process wasn't working. How many more do you need? Haslam rightly intervened.
2) Who (Britt) had one season that was 3 SD above the mean?
3) Right, if it was all about athleticism Jamarcus Russell and Jeff George would be in the HOF. Did you even notice Sashi created the dumpster fire in the first place? Got rid of almost all the vets and drafted a bucket of crap WRs? How many times has it been said here (and not just by me) you don't have to nuke the roster to rebuild. Um, Panthers?
Oh, I totally get it. 2018 was the year of the big splash where Sashi was finally going to get the Browns more than one win. Haslam didn't trust him to do so, and this time- I'm on Jimmy's side.
3B That my friend is what sent Sashi out of town. he made the final decision if consensus wasn't reached, and (in Haslam's eyes) too often it was the wrong decision. Lesson? don't send a lawyer bean counter to do a football guy's job. Haslam found out the 1-27 way.
He didn't make the final decision. Tour's answered this question at least a half dozen times. Why did you ask it again? Do you just not like the answer?
He didn't make the final decision. Tour's answered this question at least a half dozen times. Why did you ask it again? Do you just not like the answer?
Great- then who in the f**king hell was making the decisions? I'm old and bordering on Alzheimer's. Enlighten me. Congrats, you've just painted yourself into a corner.
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BTW DePo's all time stupid comment about Wentz not being a top 20 qb proves when push came to shove who was making the picks
Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick. What he IS, is clearly a tall strong armed QB not scared to turn it loose. Anyone would think Hue Jackson had a type....
Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick. What he IS, is clearly a tall strong armed QB not scared to turn it loose. Anyone would think Hue Jackson had a type....
Dude, Wentz would be a bust under Hue. I could care less about him.
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Hue made that call as much as anyone. He “fell in love” with RG3 after he was “floored” by his workout. His good friend Mike Silver, who was in the browns war room on draft night, tweeted that Hue liked Wentz but not at #2. The quotes and evidence is out there if you wish to see it.
Also you’re completely wrong about Kizer being a analytics pick. His numbers weren’t conducive to being an analytics pick. What he IS, is clearly a tall strong armed QB not scared to turn it loose. Anyone would think Hue Jackson had a type....
Dude, Wentz would be a bust under Hue. I could care less about him.
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Totally agree. He will ruin Rosen or whichever QB he falls in love with and forces Dorsey/Haslam to draft, probably Josh Allen because he has a big arm.
Its scary isn't it. I fear this franchise won't survive Jimmyworld.
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Totally agree. He will ruin Rosen or whichever QB he falls in love with and forces Dorsey/Haslam to draft, probably Josh Allen because he has a big arm.
Its scary isn't it. I fear this franchise won't survive Jimmyworld.
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Haslam makes you pray for Randy Lerner
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oooooh, that reminds me...... HBO's West World should be starting again soon.
HBO is making a new show too. “Jimmy Eat World”, where James Haslam buys the Cleveland Browns and tarnishes their legacy even more.
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HBO is making a new show too. “Jimmy Eat World”, where James Haslam buys the Cleveland Browns and tarnishes their legacy even more.
Sounds like a horror movie to me.....
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HBO is making a new show too. “Jimmy Eat World”, where James Haslam buys the Cleveland Browns and tarnishes their legacy even more.
Sounds like a horror movie to me.....
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John Dorsey to the pit of misery! Dilly dilly.
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John Dorsey to the pit of misery! Dilly dilly.
John Dorsey to the pit of misery! Dilly dilly.
If only the team would throw Hue in the Lake now, and save him the trouble of waiting for 1-15. Face it guys, unless we somehow beat DA Bears, welcome to 0-16 loserville. Thanks Sashi.
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John Dorsey to the pit of misery! Dilly dilly.
If only the team would throw Hue in the Lake now, and save him the trouble of waiting for 1-15. Face it guys, unless we somehow beat DA Bears, welcome to 0-16 loserville. Thanks Sashi.
If only the team would throw Hue in the Lake now, and save him the trouble of waiting for 1-15. Face it guys, unless we somehow beat DA Bears, welcome to 0-16 loserville. Thanks Sashi.
About time we do something right though - if we're gonna suck, well by all means...... suck so bad that history will forever remember us.
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I thought the story was that Williams recommended Britt to the FO. Now that we all hate Sashi, it's that he warned against him?
Just the opposite, this was reported by Albert Breer & Doug Dieken.
Just the opposite, this was reported by Albert Breer & Doug Dieken.
And what I said was reported by some other guys. So?
Really? So they put two options on a slip of paper and picked what they were going to do out of a hat.
London, all I'll say at this point is there's so much innuendo and contradictory reports, we can't really decide what the hell was going on.
And yet you stand strongly with the ones you've chosen. Weird.
Great- then who in the f**king hell was making the decisions? I'm old and bordering on Alzheimer's. Enlighten me. Congrats, you've just painted yourself into a corner.
Why did you ask this question twice? You may not be wrong about the memory loss. And why would I answer your question when you've asked it a half dozen times already and it's been explained just as many? You have no desire to know.
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1) Lesson #1 in a definition of process improvement: One example is NOT a process. Nor are two - or three. You need 10 examples minimum to discern process from random variance. And that's just to determine current state before identifying specific problems and interventions.
2) Hue's favorite plays are slow-developing long things.. exactly what you'd want a big-body WR for.
3) I give Sashi the highest grade of any Browns GM since the rebirth in his addition of top-to-bottom athleticism and talent to the roster from the dumpster fire he was given.. while balancing that with maintaining draft picks for the future to build even higher from.
3) If consensus can't be reached, someone has to make a decision. But remember that we don't have definitive info on what, exactly, the "vote" was in any situation. I wouldn't read anything systemic unless it's called for. Even if somebody starts, they don't have to receive more than 10 snaps -- PT is a coaching decision. Why did Kasen Williams receive no PT.. he didn't suck.
1) I have 27 examples the process wasn't working. How many more do you need? Haslam rightly intervened.
2) Who (Britt) had one season that was 3 SD above the mean?
3) Right, if it was all about athleticism Jamarcus Russell and Jeff George would be in the HOF. Did you even notice Sashi created the dumpster fire in the first place? Got rid of almost all the vets and drafted a bucket of crap WRs? How many times has it been said here (and not just by me) you don't have to nuke the roster to rebuild. Um, Panthers?
Oh, I totally get it. 2018 was the year of the big splash where Sashi was finally going to get the Browns more than one win. Haslam didn't trust him to do so, and this time- I'm on Jimmy's side.
3B That my friend is what sent Sashi out of town. he made the final decision if consensus wasn't reached, and (in Haslam's eyes) too often it was the wrong decision. Lesson? don't send a lawyer bean counter to do a football guy's job. Haslam found out the 1-27 way.
- and this time- I'm on Jimmy's side.
- 3B That my friend is what sent Sashi out of town. he made the final decision if consensus wasn't reached,
- Just think about that a while... you and Jimmy... together.... lol
- And, once again, "my friend." you prove you do not understand the consensus process... not even close... not a clue...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
He didn't make the final decision. Tour's answered this question at least a half dozen times. Why did you ask it again? Do you just not like the answer?
Really? So they put two options on a slip of paper and picked what they were going to do out of a hat.
Really? So they put two options on a slip of paper and picked what they were going to do out of a hat.
Cute...
Guess I have a little private war going on with the consensus guys.
Yes... and you are losing... badly...
Great- then who in the f**king hell was making the decisions? I'm old and bordering on Alzheimer's. Enlighten me. Congrats, you've just painted yourself into a corner.
Been there... done that...
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Moving on...
What I really stopped in here to discuss were the shots of Dorsey in Jimmah's ear all game long. Especially in light of Mike Florio's comment in NBC's SNF pregame show
Florio pretty much said Jimmah's comments about Hue having another year weren't worth the paper they are not written upon... that Dorsey has plenty of time to "help Haslam understand" how important it is for Dorsey to have his guy in the HC position.
And the kicker per Florio is that it is widely believed that Dorsey already knows who his guy is... that he has one name in mind.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Moving on...
What I really stopped in here to discuss were the shots of Dorsey in Jimmah's ear all game long. Especially in light of Mike Florio's comment in NBC's SNF pregame show
Florio pretty much said Jimmah's comments about Hue having another year weren't worth the paper they are not written upon... that Dorsey has plenty of time to "help Haslam understand" how important it is for Dorsey to have his guy in the HC position.
And the kicker per Florio is that it is widely believed that Dorsey already knows who his guy is... that he has one name in mind.
Moving on...
What I really stopped in here to discuss were the shots of Dorsey in Jimmah's ear all game long. Especially in light of Mike Florio's comment in NBC's SNF pregame show
Florio pretty much said Jimmah's comments about Hue having another year weren't worth the paper they are not written upon... that Dorsey has plenty of time to "help Haslam understand" how important it is for Dorsey to have his guy in the HC position.
And the kicker per Florio is that it is widely believed that Dorsey already knows who his guy is... that he has one name in mind.
I will cry no tears if that happens. And I won't at all hold it against Jimmy if he doesn't keep his word about keeping Hue on.
But I am curious of course about who Dorsey would bring in, if he had that chance.
Any speculation on that name? Of course, the place to look is the "Tree". Since Dorsey is a part of the Bill Walsh tree....we can look there. Start with former HCs:
Mike Smith
Marty Morningwheg
Jon Gruden
Raheem Morris
Spagnuolo
Leslie Frazier
Jim Schwartz
Tom Cable
Scott Linehan
Mike Singletary
Mike Nolan
Rex Ryan
Brian Billick
Jim Zorn
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