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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Good thing Rosen isn't a member of this board, calfox would have reported him to the moderators for that ShmuckTRUMP headband! 😆

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #5

    true, but the fact that the Pats could value him like they saw a real qb in Brady in the sixth round... and it's obvious to everybody that it was written in May. Just because you have the first overall pick, doesn't mean you just select Ryan Leaf, who was the cream that rose to the top. all those great stats you love.

    Let's put it this way - one of the  greatest NFL  qb's, Johnny Unitas was picked in the ninth round. Dan Marino was picked in the first round, but he was pick #27.

      Sometimes the best qb is overlooked because he didn't play on a solid team, in a bigtime conference. Sometimes the worst pick at qb is high in the first round. STats are deceiving when the qb doesn't have the mental makeup, leadership qualities, work ethic, etc...

      Jake Lockhart -- some thought he'd go first overall in the draft.                                                                                                                         Christian Ponder - 12th overall                                                                                                                                                                                     Akili Smith - 3rd overall

    and Matt Leinart, 1st round tenth overall, old sheply's greatest qb of all time...til he got to the NFL.                                                              and first round Brady Quinn.. Jamarcus Russell FIRST OVERALL, manziel... Tebow...

    I'm not looking for the highest rated. I'm looking for the qb that has the intangibles, the serious love for the game, the ability to read/see the field like a Bernie Kosar - a leader who never quits and can make the offense click, inspires him team to fight to win.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Rosen will be the pick, count on it.The comparisons to leaf are ridiculous. Leaf was valued for his arm talent and size. I highly doubt he had rosens pocket intangibles.  

    I really dont care that some of rosens teammates hate him, the offensr obviously had zero problem playing around him. I wouldnt mind acquiring smith for a coyple years while rosen sits behind him

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #7

    I don't hate rosen, it's just the unanswered questions leave me wanting them answered, and turning to a few

    other qbs fixes that.

  • Before cal is done, Rosen will be a UDFA...

    @texasag1969 said:

    ... and the cream Rose(n) to the top.

    No way your wife approved that butchery!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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    @tour2ma said:

    Before cal is done, Rosen will be a UDFA...

    No way your wife approved that butchery!

    Bet she approves this one: A rose is still a Rosen by any other name.😛

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #9

    say, I figure he will go in the first round, but if he's a rose, his personality and lack of leadership is the thorn...

  • say, I figure he will go in the first round, but if he's a rose, his personality and lack of leadership is the thorn...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    say, I figure he will go in the first round, but if he's a rose, his personality and lack of leadership is the thorn...

    Norm Van Brocklin had a thorny personality as a QB that eventually carried over into a coaching career as well. You may not have liked him as a fellow player, but you damn sure better do your job right or he'd blister your ears right in the huddle. Rosen strikes me as a similar kind of leader, football smarter than his teammates and damn sure in charge of what he wants the team and individual players to be doing. Headstrong? You bet. Exactly what this team needs.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    That may be the first Norm Van Brocklin reference in the history of this forum...

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
    #12

    It just doesn't seem right to argue a point when a guy brings up Norm Van Brocklin as a comparison....

    http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/11/19/sam-darnold-josh-rosen-usc-ucla-nfl-draft/

  • That may be the first Norm Van Brocklin reference in the history of this forum...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    That may be the first Norm Van Brocklin reference in the history of this forum...

    No.   I just made one last week....in commenting on who holds the record for the most passing yards in a game.