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  • @nickers said:

    Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

    Particularly since we have a plethora of draft picks.  How many?  Like 14?

    @the-gipper said:

    Particularly since we have a plethora of draft picks.  How many?  Like 14?

    Sure.. take one of the top 3 Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen....them take Lauletta 3-4th round. maybe...

  • https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentuckiana/2018/01/25/wku-quarterback-mike-white-getting-little-nfl-draft-buzz-senior-bowl/1062820001/

    A two-year starter at WKU after transferring from South Florida, White is one of those Senior Bowl players being talked about this week (especially with the Cleveland Browns).

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  • questions out there about Mike White - "Mike White the Patriot's next Brady?".

    interesting.

  • And hey....the name Mike White is somewhat heroic in Cleveland.   Mayor Mike White helped save the Browns from Modell's attempt to move them.  Does that carry any weight?

  • And hey....the name Mike White is somewhat heroic in Cleveland.   Mayor Mike White helped save the Browns from Modell's attempt to move them.  Does that carry any weight?

    @the-gipper said:

    And hey....the name Mike White is somewhat heroic in Cleveland.   Mayor Mike White helped save the Browns from Modell's attempt to move them.  Does that carry any weight?

    Mayor White Helped move the Browns .. what the hell are you talking about.. Him and Fred Nance are as guilty as Art,, Stop it Gip!

  • @the-gipper said:

    And hey....the name Mike White is somewhat heroic in Cleveland.   Mayor Mike White helped save the Browns from Modell's attempt to move them.  Does that carry any weight?

    Mayor White Helped move the Browns .. what the hell are you talking about.. Him and Fred Nance are as guilty as Art,, Stop it Gip!

    @nickers said:

    Mayor White Helped move the Browns .. what the hell are you talking about.. Him and Fred Nance are as guilty as Art,, Stop it Gip!

    You are just fuycking stupid and wrong  Bludcart.

    Who do you think the lead counsel was on the case that the City brought to stop them from attempting to leave?  And who do you think authorized that suit>

  • Beware of late risers...

    More times than not, is does not end well...

  • @nickers said:

    Mayor White Helped move the Browns .. what the hell are you talking about.. Him and Fred Nance are as guilty as Art,, Stop it Gip!

    You are just fuycking stupid and wrong  Bludcart.

    Who do you think the lead counsel was on the case that the City brought to stop them from attempting to leave?  And who do you think authorized that suit>

    @the-gipper said:

    You are just fuycking stupid and wrong  Bludcart.

    Who do you think the lead counsel was on the case that the City brought to stop them from attempting to leave?  And who do you think authorized that suit>

    Sure White helped get the ball rolling as far as getting a team back.. But his hands aren't totally clean in this Gip.. The moment The Indians got the sweetheart deal.. White was every bit a part of it as it all happened on his watch.... I got your Bludcart old man...

  • @the-gipper said:

    You are just fuycking stupid and wrong  Bludcart.

    Who do you think the lead counsel was on the case that the City brought to stop them from attempting to leave?  And who do you think authorized that suit>

    Sure White helped get the ball rolling as far as getting a team back.. But his hands aren't totally clean in this Gip.. The moment The Indians got the sweetheart deal.. White was every bit a part of it as it all happened on his watch.... I got your Bludcart old man...

    @nickers said:

    Sure White helped get the ball rolling as far as getting a team back.. But his hands aren't totally clean in this Gip.. The moment The Indians got the sweetheart deal.. White was every bit a part of it as it all happened on his watch.... I got your Bludcart old man...

    In case all you all forget....the Gateway Project was primarily a Cuyahoga County initiative....not a City of Cleveland Initiative. The entire county was involved in voting on the sin tax.  Certainly White has his input....but the whole thing you claim was an "Indians" Sweetheart deal was Gateway....promoted by the county.

    Beyond that...there WERE perfectly valid reasons to, if you will, show preference to  the Gateway project over a football stadium:  The Baseball Field had a guaranteed 81 +  nights performance.   (81 games of parking fees, people going to the local restaurants, etc.)   The Arena.....could likely have as many as 300 nights of activity between Cavs games, hockey games, arena football games, concerts,  etc.   The Republican Nat'l convention was held here because of the arena.

    The Browns hold all of 10 events per year.  As a PURE economic asset, the ball park and the arena should have been vastly favored over a football stadium.   It is just an economic fact of life.  And the county...the entity actually footing the bill and raising the revenue, was aware of this. 

  • @nickers said:

    Sure White helped get the ball rolling as far as getting a team back.. But his hands aren't totally clean in this Gip.. The moment The Indians got the sweetheart deal.. White was every bit a part of it as it all happened on his watch.... I got your Bludcart old man...

    In case all you all forget....the Gateway Project was primarily a Cuyahoga County initiative....not a City of Cleveland Initiative. The entire county was involved in voting on the sin tax.  Certainly White has his input....but the whole thing you claim was an "Indians" Sweetheart deal was Gateway....promoted by the county.

    Beyond that...there WERE perfectly valid reasons to, if you will, show preference to  the Gateway project over a football stadium:  The Baseball Field had a guaranteed 81 +  nights performance.   (81 games of parking fees, people going to the local restaurants, etc.)   The Arena.....could likely have as many as 300 nights of activity between Cavs games, hockey games, arena football games, concerts,  etc.   The Republican Nat'l convention was held here because of the arena.

    The Browns hold all of 10 events per year.  As a PURE economic asset, the ball park and the arena should have been vastly favored over a football stadium.   It is just an economic fact of life.  And the county...the entity actually footing the bill and raising the revenue, was aware of this. 

    @the-gipper said:

    In case all you all forget....the Gateway Project was primarily a Cuyahoga County initiative....not a City of Cleveland Initiative. The entire county was involved in voting on the sin tax.  Certainly White has his input....but the whole thing you claim was an "Indians" Sweetheart deal was Gateway....promoted by the county.

    Beyond that...there WERE perfectly valid reasons to, if you will, show preference to  the Gateway project over a football stadium:  The Baseball Field had a guaranteed 81 +  nights performance.   (81 games of parking fees, people going to the local restaurants, etc.)   The Arena.....could likely have as many as 300 nights of activity between Cavs games, hockey games, arena football games, concerts,  etc.   The Republican Nat'l convention was held here because of the arena.

    The Browns hold all of 10 events per year.  As a PURE economic asset, the ball park and the arena should have been vastly favored over a football stadium.   It is just an economic fact of life.  And the county...the entity actually footing the bill and raising the revenue, was aware of this. 

    And If I remember correctly.. George Voinovich was involved toward the end of his career and spilled over on Mayor Whites desk if I recall.. very early 90's

  • @the-gipper said:

    In case all you all forget....the Gateway Project was primarily a Cuyahoga County initiative....not a City of Cleveland Initiative. The entire county was involved in voting on the sin tax.  Certainly White has his input....but the whole thing you claim was an "Indians" Sweetheart deal was Gateway....promoted by the county.

    Beyond that...there WERE perfectly valid reasons to, if you will, show preference to  the Gateway project over a football stadium:  The Baseball Field had a guaranteed 81 +  nights performance.   (81 games of parking fees, people going to the local restaurants, etc.)   The Arena.....could likely have as many as 300 nights of activity between Cavs games, hockey games, arena football games, concerts,  etc.   The Republican Nat'l convention was held here because of the arena.

    The Browns hold all of 10 events per year.  As a PURE economic asset, the ball park and the arena should have been vastly favored over a football stadium.   It is just an economic fact of life.  And the county...the entity actually footing the bill and raising the revenue, was aware of this. 

    And If I remember correctly.. George Voinovich was involved toward the end of his career and spilled over on Mayor Whites desk if I recall.. very early 90's

    @nickers said:

    And If I remember correctly.. George Voinovich was involved toward the end of his career and spilled over on Mayor Whites desk if I recall.. very early 90's

    Actually....I believe Voinovich was Governor of Ohio at the time of the Gateway Vote...He was Gov. from 1991 to 1998

    And interestingly.....he was the Mayor of Cleveland for every single day of the 1980s decade....but not for a single day of any other decade:

    54th Mayor of Cleveland
    In office
    January 1, 1980 – December 31, 1989
  • @nickers said:

    And If I remember correctly.. George Voinovich was involved toward the end of his career and spilled over on Mayor Whites desk if I recall.. very early 90's

    Actually....I believe Voinovich was Governor of Ohio at the time of the Gateway Vote...He was Gov. from 1991 to 1998

    And interestingly.....he was the Mayor of Cleveland for every single day of the 1980s decade....but not for a single day of any other decade:

    54th Mayor of Cleveland
    In office
    January 1, 1980 – December 31, 1989

    @the-gipper said:

    Actually....I believe Voinovich was Governor of Ohio at the time of the Gateway Vote...He was Gov. from 1991 to 1998

    And interestingly.....he was the Mayor of Cleveland for every single day of the 1980s decade....but not for a single day of any other decade:

    54th Mayor of Cleveland
    In office
    January 1, 1980 – December 31, 1989

    Ok I used to be employed by his brother back in the 80's.. And he was part of a different "Gateway" project... Which had nothing to do with sports , or Gateway PC's..

  • Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

    @nickers said:

    Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

    Exactly Nickers!  We also stand a REALLY good chance of bringing in AJ McCarron via FA to start here in 2018 which could give us the flexibility to consider Mike White in round 2 instead of going QB up at #1 or #4.  He's put together 2 very good seasons for 2 different Head Coaches.  When it comes the the next tier of college competition, I'm far more impressed with him than Josh Allen.  And it looks like he has just as good of size and accuracy as Sam Darnold while he might even exhibit better ball security.