Saquon Barkley Combine Bound
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This should automatically come up after every PoG post.
I just said it because I was grading him and that just popped into my mind.
May be a little unfair, he seems like a good guy with a warped opinion of a couple players.
Besides, what would be after Ghoolies?
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Holy Sheet. You're getting it. It FEELS good, doesn't it? Sayhope Barkley
It feels good to make fun of the ridiculousness of your hundreds of posts drooling over this dude. is that what you meant when you asked if it feels good?
My draft day preferences are very simple....... Just say no to Charles Barkley at #1 and just say no to Allen unless it's in round 3 or later.
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After all this discussion?
I just hope on draft day, I don't choke on my root beer and hunkie junk sandwich like I did when they drafted
gilbert and coleman, etc. It seems that finally - they will have a great draft.
Not bring from Cleveland, Ohio, or close maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a hunkie junk sandwich
Not bring from Cleveland, Ohio, or close maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a hunkie junk sandwich
lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
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Not bring from Cleveland, Ohio, or close maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a hunkie junk sandwich
lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
Well the sausage, salt and pepper sound good. Not much on peppers, but I love hot things. Guess I am just weird
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Well, the league's reigning rushing champion was a 3rd round pick, taken by John Dorsey. That would be Kareem Hunt.
Yea, if the Browns can use a 3rd round pick on Barkley, I dont think anyone on here would have one peep to say about it
This is very true. That's the other half of the analysis? It's a very nice draft for running backs. They may not have the measurables,
but terrific running backs don't have to be the very best rb in a draft. Like Terrell Davis - a sixth round pick. "top rated" doesn't mean you have to pick that one at the top of the draft.
This is very true. That's the other half of the analysis? It's a very nice draft for running backs. They may not have the measurables,
but terrific running backs don't have to be the very best rb in a draft. Like Terrell Davis - a sixth round pick. "top rated" doesn't mean you have to pick that one at the top of the draft.
Po just doesn't want to listen. More factoids. Of the top 10 running backs in 2017, only three were drafted in the first round. Gurley, Fournette, and Eliot. None made it to the Super Bowl. BTW those who did- Dion Lewis at #14 (fifth round pick) and LeGarrett Blount at #21 (UFA). If we did take Barkley at #1, and then call the Eagles saying we'll trade you Saquon for Carson Wentz straight up, they'd laugh and hang up.
I thought he might curb his expectations just a bit.
I think I read this interesting article earlier. That speed skater that smoked everyone was actually Barkley, then he slid over to win the Luge, then was a solo act in pairs figure skating and got a 100 score, then went and became the best cricket player in history.
And he is so fast, he ran across the Pacific to get back to the USA by the time it was on TV. Didn't you know, he runs like a 2.1 40
LOL RAN? Why- he just put on his Superman Cape, and flew back at hypersonic speed. You forgot he won the Alpine Downhill, and scored 10 goals for the US hockey team against Russia.
And for YOUR guy, you are disrespecting him there. He has a unique name, and I am sure he would like to be called by it.
I could ask Zombo to change Po's screen name like he does for Steelers trolls to PoBarkley (I'll take nominations for something more creative), and put in his tag line- writing Saquon Barkley's biography, also Saquon's #1 groupie.
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I thought he might curb his expectations just a bit.
I think I read this interesting article earlier. That speed skater that smoked everyone was actually Barkley, then he slid over to win the Luge, then was a solo act in pairs figure skating and got a 100 score, then went and became the best cricket player in history.
And he is so fast, he ran across the Pacific to get back to the USA by the time it was on TV. Didn't you know, he runs like a 2.1 40
He runs close to a '4.1' 40. Brah-
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Not bring from Cleveland, Ohio, or close maybe this is a dumb question, but what is a hunkie junk sandwich
lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
You ever do that with squirrel cal?
My grandmother used to simmer a brisket all day in a stove top, well seasoned iron skillet (that means you just wipe it out and never use soap on it-kills the seasoning). Every time she made it us kids would drool over it until old Gramp would say, "She sure does cook a mean armadillo on the half shell doesn't she?" We all knew it was one of the near grown calves they raised on the farm, but we always went along with it. Once when my mom commented on how good it was my grandmother said, "Oh yeah, that's Becky." LOL!. She had a habit of naming the calves and that one was named for my sister. My mom promptly ran to the bathroom and threw up. My grandmother just looked at us kids and smilingly said, "City girls."
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This is very true. That's the other half of the analysis? It's a very nice draft for running backs. They may not have the measurables,
but terrific running backs don't have to be the very best rb in a draft. Like Terrell Davis - a sixth round pick. "top rated" doesn't mean you have to pick that one at the top of the draft.
Po just doesn't want to listen. More factoids. Of the top 10 running backs in 2017, only three were drafted in the first round. Gurley, Fournette, and Eliot. None made it to the Super Bowl. BTW those who did- Dion Lewis at #14 (fifth round pick) and LeGarrett Blount at #21 (UFA). If we did take Barkley at #1, and then call the Eagles saying we'll trade you Saquon for Carson Wentz straight up, they'd laugh and hang up.
I thought he might curb his expectations just a bit.
I think I read this interesting article earlier. That speed skater that smoked everyone was actually Barkley, then he slid over to win the Luge, then was a solo act in pairs figure skating and got a 100 score, then went and became the best cricket player in history.
And he is so fast, he ran across the Pacific to get back to the USA by the time it was on TV. Didn't you know, he runs like a 2.1 40
LOL RAN? Why- he just put on his Superman Cape, and flew back at hypersonic speed. You forgot he won the Alpine Downhill, and scored 10 goals for the US hockey team against Russia.
And for YOUR guy, you are disrespecting him there. He has a unique name, and I am sure he would like to be called by it.
I could ask Zombo to change Po's screen name like he does for Steelers trolls to PoBarkley (I'll take nominations for something more creative), and put in his tag line- writing Saquon Barkley's biography, also Saquon's #1 groupie.
Po just doesn't want to listen. More factoids. Of the top 10 running backs in 2017, only three were drafted in the first round. Gurley, Fournette, and Eliot. None made it to the Super Bowl. BTW those who did- Dion Lewis at #14 (fifth round pick) and LeGarrett Blount at #21 (UFA). If we did take Barkley at #1, and then call the Eagles saying we'll trade you Saquon for Carson Wentz straight up, they'd laugh and hang up.
LOL RAN? Why- he just put on his Superman Cape, and flew back at hypersonic speed. You forgot he won the Alpine Downhill, and scored 10 goals for the US hockey team against Russia.
I could ask Zombo to change Po's screen name like he does for Steelers trolls to PoBarkley (I'll take nominations for something more creative), and put in his tag line- writing Saquon Barkley's biography, also Saquon's #1 groupie.
Who is someone reasonably that if the Browns drafted him, that they could turn around and trade him for?
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lol. Old simple recipe - brown a couple or three packages of your favorite sage sausage - (I love the Jimmie Dean sausage), get all
the grease out of the skillet, and add a good size bowl of chopped up green tomatoes and and a bowl of chopped sweet peppers, I'm not much on green pepper - I go with yellow and orange bells, and Hungarian sweet banana peppers mostly ....maybe a semi-hot pepper, too - cook that for a while, it cooks down into a sausage sloppy joe add salt and black pepper to taste. Not very politically correct - the recipe, with name, was gotten from a friend of my Dad's who was from Hungary.
You ever do that with squirrel cal?
My grandmother used to simmer a brisket all day in a stove top, well seasoned iron skillet (that means you just wipe it out and never use soap on it-kills the seasoning). Every time she made it us kids would drool over it until old Gramp would say, "She sure does cook a mean armadillo on the half shell doesn't she?" We all knew it was one of the near grown calves they raised on the farm, but we always went along with it. Once when my mom commented on how good it was my grandmother said, "Oh yeah, that's Becky." LOL!. She had a habit of naming the calves and that one was named for my sister. My mom promptly ran to the bathroom and threw up. My grandmother just looked at us kids and smilingly said, "City girls."
You ever do that with squirrel cal?
no, I don't think I ever would - never even made squirrel pot pie, but figure to this fall.
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Should I send my first email to the mods to complain about the behavior of a poster here? Nah...but Po is committing the ultimate bad thing on this forum.......he is boring us all to death.
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Should I send my first email to the mods to complain about the behavior of a poster here? Nah...but Po is committing the ultimate bad thing on this forum.......he is boring us all to death.
Should I send my first email to the mods to complain about the behavior of a poster here?
Feel free. I'll delete the email just like the rest of them.
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Should I send my first email to the mods to complain about the behavior of a poster here?
Feel free. I'll delete the email just like the rest of them.
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Since you guys like to talk stats and draft position so much... let's look at the Top 10 RBs of last year, their production and their draft position, shall we...
10 - Devonta Freeman - Overall, Freeman finished with 865 rushing yards, 4.4 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 36 receptions, 317 receiving yards, and one receiving touchdown in the 2017 season.
Freeman was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in the fourth round (103rd overall) of the 2014 NFL Draft.
9 - Melvin Gordon - Overall, in the 2017 season, Gordon finished with 1,105 rushing yards, 3.9 ypc, eight rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, 476 receiving yards, and four receiving touchdowns.
The San Diego Chargers selected Gordon in the first round with the 15th overall pick.
8 - Ezekiel Elliot - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 983 rushing yards, 4.1 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 269 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
Elliott was selected in the first round with the fourth overall pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2016 NFL Draft on April 28, 2016
7 - LeSean McCoy - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 1138 rushing yards, 4.0 ypc, 6 rushing touchdowns, 448 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
McCoy was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round (53rd overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft.[52] He was the fourth running back to be selected that year.
6 - Leanord Fournette - Fournette was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round with the fourth overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft.
As of the 2017 NFL season.
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 Career 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 - Playoffs
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Career 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Honorable Mention - Dalvin Cook - In his first NFL game against the New Orleans Saints, Cook set the Vikings' rookie debut rushing record, previously held by Adrian Peterson by rushing for 127 yards on 22 carries. In four games in his rookie year, Cook finished with 354 rushing yards.
The Minnesota Vikings selected Cook in the second round (41st overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
5 - Mark Ingram - he finished the regular season with career-highs of 1,124 rushing yards, 12 rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, and 416 receiving yards.
The New Orleans Saints selected Ingram in the first round with the 28th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft.
4 - Alvin Kamara*- NFL draft experts and analysts projected him as a second round pick, The New Orleans Saints selected Kamara in the third round (67th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. He was the fifth running back selected.
In 2017, 728 yards rushing and 826 yards receiving, 9 TDs.
STATS
ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 2017 Regular Season 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 2017 Postseason 21 66 3.1 10 1 3 5 72 14.4 23 1 0 0 Career 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 3 - Kareem Hunt - Hunt was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the third round (86th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
Rushing & Receiving
- * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro
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Games Rushing Receiving Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 1782 11 1 15 2017* 22 KAN RB 27 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 84.1% 1782 11 1 15 2 - La'Veon Bell - Bell was selected in the 2nd round, #48 pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
In 2017 Bell had 1291 rushing yards, 4 ypc, 9 rushing TDs, 655 receiving yards, 2 REC TDS.
1 - Todd Gurley - Selected in the first Round #10 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft by the St. Louis Rams.
Gurley had 1,305 rushing yards, 4.7 ypc. 13 rushing TDs, 788 receiving yards and 6 receiving TDs. Named Offensive Player of the Year in 2017.
Gold names represent 1st round picks. Orange names represent 2nd and borderline 2nd round picks. Black bold names represent players taken third round or after. Red names - honorable mention for injury.
*Note- Kamara is denoted with an orange label as he barely slips from the second rounder where most draft experts had him rated.
Here is a nice video I found showing the top 10 in action.
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This list clearly shows that FIVE, including the #1 offensive player in the NFL in 2017, that's 50% of the top ten Running Backs were drafted in the first round. FOUR others in the second round, or argumentatively THREE others were drafted in the 2nd round, primo pick territory, as many teams only usually get 1 pick per round. Only 2 players, that were rated in the top 10 were later picks.
If you watch the video above and compare and look at the stats, there is nothing that any of these guys have done that Barkley is not or could not be capable of doing on a football field. He much faster and stronger and agile than any of these top 10 guys seem to be. I would like to inform you guys that running a successful scheme and often times getting some lucky breaks really do factor into better stats. I don't know how the offensive line play accounts into this list but I would think that it would also be a contributing factor.
Anyways, it's something to talk about. If you know that these guys are putting up those kinds of numbers and he's a guy coming out in the draft, a guy far superior to any of the guys in the top 10, that's when it's safe for you to use a number 1 overall pick on a talented guy like Saquon. He's likely going to earn offensive rookie of the year next year. It becomes even CLEARER that you are able to have the luxury of taking him #1 when you also have another pick 2 picks later.
Both NY and INDY are licking their chops at the thought of him slipping through Cleveland hands because of their perceived QB woes. Neither team WANTS to take a QB here, they want Eli and Luck to get better and to support their guys with playmakers and protection. Both these teams have capable QB, what they lack is a dynamic lethal weapon sidekick. One that's an unselfish team first guy, wise beyond his years, Uncapped potential, NFL ready NOW and one with a heart of gold.
Just for once, let it be us this time. Let it be us.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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He can be had at #4 or they can pick one in the 2nd round with pick 33 since 5 were first round picks and 4 others were 2nd round picks. The team needs a QB. Deshogy Hoglesszer isn't going to get the job done at QB.
He can be had at #4 or they can pick one in the 2nd round with pick 33 since 5 were first round picks and 4 others were 2nd round picks. The team needs a QB. Deshogy Hoglesszer isn't going to get the job done at QB.
Are you going to stop being a fan when the Browns draft him #1 and a QB #4? Serious question.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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He can be had at #4 or they can pick one in the 2nd round with pick 33 since 5 were first round picks and 4 others were 2nd round picks. The team needs a QB. Deshogy Hoglesszer isn't going to get the job done at QB.
Are you going to stop being a fan when the Browns draft him #1 and a QB #4? Serious question.
Are you going to stop being a fan when the Browns draft him #1 and a QB #4? Serious question.
Yeah...I've been a fan of this shit show for my entire life...all 48 years but I"m going to stop being a fan because the team drafted a RB first over all rather than the QB that the team needs. The majority of people on this board really don't care that much about who the team drafts as long as the player performs and makes the Browns better. Only fangirls like you get all worked up about a prospect who has never played in the NFL and goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on telling us how great a NFL player he is already. Unlikely that they sign Cousins....but of course if they do..then that changes the draft needs. One thing that you keep forgetting in every scenario that someone brings up about getting Barkely at 4 is that the Giants and Colts could both trade out of their spots to teams who need a QB so if you don't take the QB that you really think is the best at 1....the Browns are potentially settling for the 3rd best one at 4 if trades occur. The whole thing is a guessing game...but its been proven (by you in fact) that it's nearly just as likely to get a franchise RB in Rounds 2 or later as it is to get it in round 1.
QB first....RB can come later. If Cousins signs then that changes everything.
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Since you guys like to talk stats and draft position so much... let's look at the Top 10 RBs of last year, their production and their draft position, shall we...
10 - Devonta Freeman - Overall, Freeman finished with 865 rushing yards, 4.4 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 36 receptions, 317 receiving yards, and one receiving touchdown in the 2017 season.
Freeman was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in the fourth round (103rd overall) of the 2014 NFL Draft.
9 - Melvin Gordon - Overall, in the 2017 season, Gordon finished with 1,105 rushing yards, 3.9 ypc, eight rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, 476 receiving yards, and four receiving touchdowns.
The San Diego Chargers selected Gordon in the first round with the 15th overall pick.
8 - Ezekiel Elliot - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 983 rushing yards, 4.1 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 269 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
Elliott was selected in the first round with the fourth overall pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2016 NFL Draft on April 28, 2016
7 - LeSean McCoy - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 1138 rushing yards, 4.0 ypc, 6 rushing touchdowns, 448 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
McCoy was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round (53rd overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft.[52] He was the fourth running back to be selected that year.
6 - Leanord Fournette - Fournette was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round with the fourth overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft.
As of the 2017 NFL season.
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 Career 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 - Playoffs
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Career 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Honorable Mention - Dalvin Cook - In his first NFL game against the New Orleans Saints, Cook set the Vikings' rookie debut rushing record, previously held by Adrian Peterson by rushing for 127 yards on 22 carries. In four games in his rookie year, Cook finished with 354 rushing yards.
The Minnesota Vikings selected Cook in the second round (41st overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
5 - Mark Ingram - he finished the regular season with career-highs of 1,124 rushing yards, 12 rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, and 416 receiving yards.
The New Orleans Saints selected Ingram in the first round with the 28th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft.
4 - Alvin Kamara*- NFL draft experts and analysts projected him as a second round pick, The New Orleans Saints selected Kamara in the third round (67th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. He was the fifth running back selected.
In 2017, 728 yards rushing and 826 yards receiving, 9 TDs.
STATS
ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 2017 Regular Season 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 2017 Postseason 21 66 3.1 10 1 3 5 72 14.4 23 1 0 0 Career 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 3 - Kareem Hunt - Hunt was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the third round (86th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
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- * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro
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Games Rushing Receiving Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 1782 11 1 15 2017* 22 KAN RB 27 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 84.1% 1782 11 1 15 2 - La'Veon Bell - Bell was selected in the 2nd round, #48 pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
In 2017 Bell had 1291 rushing yards, 4 ypc, 9 rushing TDs, 655 receiving yards, 2 REC TDS.
1 - Todd Gurley - Selected in the first Round #10 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft by the St. Louis Rams.
Gurley had 1,305 rushing yards, 4.7 ypc. 13 rushing TDs, 788 receiving yards and 6 receiving TDs. Named Offensive Player of the Year in 2017.
Gold names represent 1st round picks. Orange names represent 2nd and borderline 2nd round picks. Black bold names represent players taken third round or after. Red names - honorable mention for injury.
*Note- Kamara is denoted with an orange label as he barely slips from the second rounder where most draft experts had him rated.
Here is a nice video I found showing the top 10 in action.
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This list clearly shows that FIVE, including the #1 offensive player in the NFL in 2017, that's 50% of the top ten Running Backs were drafted in the first round. FOUR others in the second round, or argumentatively THREE others were drafted in the 2nd round, primo pick territory, as many teams only usually get 1 pick per round. Only 2 players, that were rated in the top 10 were later picks.
If you watch the video above and compare and look at the stats, there is nothing that any of these guys have done that Barkley is not or could not be capable of doing on a football field. He much faster and stronger and agile than any of these top 10 guys seem to be. I would like to inform you guys that running a successful scheme and often times getting some lucky breaks really do factor into better stats. I don't know how the offensive line play accounts into this list but I would think that it would also be a contributing factor.
Anyways, it's something to talk about. If you know that these guys are putting up those kinds of numbers and he's a guy coming out in the draft, a guy far superior to any of the guys in the top 10, that's when it's safe for you to use a number 1 overall pick on a talented guy like Saquon. He's likely going to earn offensive rookie of the year next year. It becomes even CLEARER that you are able to have the luxury of taking him #1 when you also have another pick 2 picks later.
Both NY and INDY are licking their chops at the thought of him slipping through Cleveland hands because of their perceived QB woes. Neither team WANTS to take a QB here, they want Eli and Luck to get better and to support their guys with playmakers and protection. Both these teams have capable QB, what they lack is a dynamic lethal weapon sidekick. One that's an unselfish team first guy, wise beyond his years, Uncapped potential, NFL ready NOW and one with a heart of gold.
Just for once, let it be us this time. Let it be us.
Since you guys like to talk stats and draft position so much... let's look at the Top 10 RBs of last year, their production and their draft position, shall we...
10 - Devonta Freeman - Overall, Freeman finished with 865 rushing yards, 4.4 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 36 receptions, 317 receiving yards, and one receiving touchdown in the 2017 season.
Freeman was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in the fourth round (103rd overall) of the 2014 NFL Draft.
9 - Melvin Gordon - Overall, in the 2017 season, Gordon finished with 1,105 rushing yards, 3.9 ypc, eight rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, 476 receiving yards, and four receiving touchdowns.
The San Diego Chargers selected Gordon in the first round with the 15th overall pick.
8 - Ezekiel Elliot - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 983 rushing yards, 4.1 ypc, seven rushing touchdowns, 269 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
Elliott was selected in the first round with the fourth overall pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2016 NFL Draft on April 28, 2016
7 - LeSean McCoy - Overall, in the 2017 season, he finished with 1138 rushing yards, 4.0 ypc, 6 rushing touchdowns, 448 receiving yards, and two receiving touchdowns.
McCoy was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round (53rd overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft.[52] He was the fourth running back to be selected that year.
6 - Leanord Fournette - Fournette was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round with the fourth overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft.
As of the 2017 NFL season.
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 Career 13 13 268 1,040 3.9 90T 9 36 302 8.4 28 1 2 0 - Playoffs
Year Team Games Rushing Receiving Fumbles G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2017 JAX 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Career 3 3 70 242 3.5 18 4 7 44 6.3 12 0 0 0 Honorable Mention - Dalvin Cook - In his first NFL game against the New Orleans Saints, Cook set the Vikings' rookie debut rushing record, previously held by Adrian Peterson by rushing for 127 yards on 22 carries. In four games in his rookie year, Cook finished with 354 rushing yards.
The Minnesota Vikings selected Cook in the second round (41st overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
5 - Mark Ingram - he finished the regular season with career-highs of 1,124 rushing yards, 12 rushing touchdowns, 58 receptions, and 416 receiving yards.
The New Orleans Saints selected Ingram in the first round with the 28th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft.
4 - Alvin Kamara*- NFL draft experts and analysts projected him as a second round pick, The New Orleans Saints selected Kamara in the third round (67th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. He was the fifth running back selected.
In 2017, 728 yards rushing and 826 yards receiving, 9 TDs.
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ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 2017 Regular Season 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 2017 Postseason 21 66 3.1 10 1 3 5 72 14.4 23 1 0 0 Career 120 728 6.1 74 8 40 81 826 10.2 40 5 1 1 3 - Kareem Hunt - Hunt was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the third round (86th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.
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- * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro
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Games Rushing Receiving Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 1782 11 1 15 2017* 22 KAN RB 27 16 16 272 1327 8 69 4.9 82.9 17.0 63 53 455 8.6 3 78 3.3 28.4 84.1% 1782 11 1 15 2 - La'Veon Bell - Bell was selected in the 2nd round, #48 pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
In 2017 Bell had 1291 rushing yards, 4 ypc, 9 rushing TDs, 655 receiving yards, 2 REC TDS.
1 - Todd Gurley - Selected in the first Round #10 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft by the St. Louis Rams.
Gurley had 1,305 rushing yards, 4.7 ypc. 13 rushing TDs, 788 receiving yards and 6 receiving TDs. Named Offensive Player of the Year in 2017.
Gold names represent 1st round picks. Orange names represent 2nd and borderline 2nd round picks. Black bold names represent players taken third round or after. Red names - honorable mention for injury.
*Note- Kamara is denoted with an orange label as he barely slips from the second rounder where most draft experts had him rated.
Here is a nice video I found showing the top 10 in action.
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This list clearly shows that FIVE, including the #1 offensive player in the NFL in 2017, that's 50% of the top ten Running Backs were drafted in the first round. FOUR others in the second round, or argumentatively THREE others were drafted in the 2nd round, primo pick territory, as many teams only usually get 1 pick per round. Only 2 players, that were rated in the top 10 were later picks.
If you watch the video above and compare and look at the stats, there is nothing that any of these guys have done that Barkley is not or could not be capable of doing on a football field. He much faster and stronger and agile than any of these top 10 guys seem to be. I would like to inform you guys that running a successful scheme and often times getting some lucky breaks really do factor into better stats. I don't know how the offensive line play accounts into this list but I would think that it would also be a contributing factor.
Anyways, it's something to talk about. If you know that these guys are putting up those kinds of numbers and he's a guy coming out in the draft, a guy far superior to any of the guys in the top 10, that's when it's safe for you to use a number 1 overall pick on a talented guy like Saquon. He's likely going to earn offensive rookie of the year next year. It becomes even CLEARER that you are able to have the luxury of taking him #1 when you also have another pick 2 picks later.
Both NY and INDY are licking their chops at the thought of him slipping through Cleveland hands because of their perceived QB woes. Neither team WANTS to take a QB here, they want Eli and Luck to get better and to support their guys with playmakers and protection. Both these teams have capable QB, what they lack is a dynamic lethal weapon sidekick. One that's an unselfish team first guy, wise beyond his years, Uncapped potential, NFL ready NOW and one with a heart of gold.
Just for once, let it be us this time. Let it be us.
I REALLY hope this is the last time I have to say this, but with how you are talking, someone will have to even if it is not me.
AT THIS POINT, SAQUON BARKLEY IS NOT FAR SUPERIOR TO ANY OF THEM.
He MAY have the talent to be so in the future, but he has proven the EXACT SAME AS YOU OR I ON A NFL FIELD.
I'm sure A LOT of people thought that Ki-Jana Carter was going to be GREAT, that is why he was drafted #1. He didn't pan out. Same thing with TRENT RICHARDSON, and another handful of backs.
At this point Crowell is FAR SUPERIOR TO Barkley. Maybe not nearly as talented, but he has done it in the NFL, not against Akron.
AGAIN, NOBODY IS AGAINST SAQUON BARKLEY. They may not think he should be drafted at 1 or 4, but NOBODY has said he will suck or a bad player or person.
WHAT EVERYONE IS AGAINST IS THE WAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM. IN THIS VERY POST YOU SAID HE WAS FAR SUPERIOR TO EVERY BACK IN THE NFL. NO.
He could be next year, the year after, heck he could end up being the best player ever like you say, but RIGHT NOW HE ISN'T.
Don't make me bring out Billy Madison again or endless memes.
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Gunz, you are new to this board.
PoG did this same act all season long for Kevin Hogan. KEVIN HOGAN IS THE FUTURE FRANCHISE QB OF THE BROWNS! START KEVIN HOGAN AND THE BROWNS ARE A GUARANTEED PLAYOFF TEAM! CRAZY KEV WILL SHOW EVERYONE HE'S AN ELITE QB WITH THE HEART OF A CHAMPION!
Yes Gunz, the same Kevin Hogan that most likely will be scrambling to find a job as a 3rd-string backup this season.
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