NFL considering changing two rules...
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So... the one rule considered, is the completed catch after hitting the ground rule. If they get rid of it...
what the heck? There is a reason for the rule. It causes controversy. But suppose a player gets one hand on the ball for a half second in the end zone, and loses it completely when he hits the ground. That a catch? I think not. I say keep the rule as it is. I think.
The other rule, is the point of infraction ball placement - pass interference. Changing that to only a 15 yard penalty. I agree with changing it.
Because... it's tiresome for a team that needs a field goal. to always launch the ball way down field, and the wr flops, or fakes being held, initiates contact with the defender, steps in front of the defender and falls down, gets his feet tangled up on purpose with the defender, and the pro squealer ref gives them pass interference and a great bet at 3 points and a win.
Change it to only a 15 yard penalty gets rid of the silly play.
Maybe if you keep it the way it is...you should not allow a field goal inside of a minute on the long throw to get 50 yards into field goal range.
or not. Very confusing. I think change it to only a 15 yard penalty. I think.
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They WILL do something about the catch rule.
They will NOT make the change to the PI rule as suggested.
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okay. .......why? I don't know - just was wondering off hand.
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They should also throw out any player that is flagged for a personal foul that resulted in the other team losing the injured player. 15 yards isn't enough.
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They should also throw out any player that is flagged for a personal foul that resulted in the other team losing the injured player. 15 yards isn't enough.
They should also throw out any player that is flagged for a personal foul that resulted in the other team losing the injured player. 15 yards isn't enough.
that wasn't mentioned, but I'm supporting that ever since Canton Mike mentioned it, also part of that - was the offender gets suspended for as long as the injured party is injured. Right now, there is no real reason for those cheap shotters to stop it.
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They should also throw out any player that is flagged for a personal foul that resulted in the other team losing the injured player. 15 yards isn't enough.
that wasn't mentioned, but I'm supporting that ever since Canton Mike mentioned it, also part of that - was the offender gets suspended for as long as the injured party is injured. Right now, there is no real reason for those cheap shotters to stop it.
that wasn't mentioned, but I'm supporting that ever since Canton Mike mentioned it, also part of that - was the offender gets suspended for as long as the injured party is injured. Right now, there is no real reason for those cheap shotters to stop it.
totally agree cal
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There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
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ah. good point ! hadn't thought of that.
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okay. .......why? I don't know - just was wondering off hand.
Why will they do something with the catch rule? Because nobody has a clue about what is or is not a catch now.
Why will they do nothing to change the PI rule? Because a mere 15 yard penalty will seem to invite more PI....and it will be seen as almost a reward for a team to commit a PI way downfield.
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There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
Any beat defender that's more than 15 yards downfield...would just tackle the receiver. That's what I would teach.
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There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
Yes. Well said LOB!
Let's say it's late in a game with time for only 2 plays & a team is on its' own 25 yard line needing a FG. QB throws a 40 yard pass & the DB CLEARLY & intentionally interferes. That penalty INCREASES the chance for the defending team to win via a 15 yard penalty (70 yd FG attempt) whereas the spot penalty gives at least a viable FG attempt(52-54 yds). The 15 yard penalty invites more intentional PIs. Bad behavior rewarded & it WILL happen.
NO to 15 yds on all PIs.
Mike
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But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
Any beat defender that's more than 15 yards downfield...would just tackle the receiver. That's what I would teach.
Any beat defender that's more than 15 yards downfield...would just tackle the receiver. That's what I would teach.
Yep, & that sucks.
Mike
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Yep, & that sucks.
And that's why they can't change that rule. I mean, a beat defender will tackle the receiver even WITHOUT the rule...so he doesn't give up a TD.
As for the 'catch' rule, I thought it was fine until they changed it to what it is now. If you catch it and have two feet down then it's a catch. So now if you catch it, have two feet down and dive into the end zone, if it comes loose when you hit the ground then it's incomplete. Whereas a RB can dive over the goal line and it's a TD the instant the ball crosses the goal line. He can drop it in mid air if he wants.
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The problem with the catch rule for me is the introduction of the term 'process'.
I remember when I learnt what was a catch in the NFL that it was 'OK, catch and both feet, knee, arm or whatever that states that you're in bounds'.
Now they have to check thoroughly what happens between catcher's hand and the ball for 5 mins in an action that took place in less than a second. Did the ball move? Did it survive the ground? Did the catcher move or even free it for a second to assure that he makes the catch? (In Spanish we call it a two time catch)
The reviewing time-play time ratio is way too big on this one. And it happens even if it's not a catch for a TD!!!
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There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
There should be two tiers to PI.
One that is less flagrant (CB makes contact without turning head around, etc.) should be 15 yards.
But if it’s a 60 yd pass and the CB is beat and he tackles the WR? That should be a spot foul.
If they change everything to 15 yds, then a CB beat for a touchdown will just tackle the WR, because why wouldn’t you? 15 yds is better than a TD for the defense.
On #1 they need to address the issue.
On #2 Buddah is on to something, the free chuckit 60 yard penalty is way to easy, but changing it to either 15 or spot becomes the dreaded judgement call but better than it is now. The 15 only in college isn't good either, someone is clearly beat for a TD just deck him and only get 15.
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The only change to PI should be in the endzone. PI in the endzone should be a TD.
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The only change to PI should be in the endzone. PI in the endzone should be a TD.
What?
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What?
Rather than placing the ball at the 1 yard line pass interference in the end zone should be ruled a TD
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What?
Rather than placing the ball at the 1 yard line pass interference in the end zone should be ruled a TD
..If intential PI rule is reviewable it's more Dilly! Dilly! ads with no action..keep the game simple please..4pm games are being moved to 4:30 already
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