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  • @dutch-oven said:

    A 6'0 tall QB from the Big 12... no problems at all?

    We've already hashed this to death- you have to look at the player, not the conference. If Dorsey is OK with 6'0" Tyrod Taylor- think 6'0" height is an issue with Dorsey? 

    @hoorta said:

    We've already hashed this to death- you have to look at the player, not the conference. If Dorsey is OK with 6'0" Tyrod Taylor- think 6'0" height is an issue with Dorsey? 

    There is a world of difference between a one-year bridge QB - and what you'll use to fill that spot - and using the #1 or #4 overall pick on a guy you would think of as a franchise QB for the next decade. 

  • I keep saying to people that Baker Mayfields demeanor is much more serious than Johnny's... He just seems to really care about his craft.. so hes a little kocky.. you expect that from a youngster... Baker despite some of the little bit of negative press received, really doesnt concern me ... I think hes just a different mindset from JFF all together...

    @nickers said:

    I keep saying to people that Baker Mayfields demeanor is much more serious than Johnny's... He just seems to really care about his craft.. so hes a little kocky.. you expect that from a youngster... Baker despite some of the little bit of negative press received, really doesnt concern me ... I think hes just a different mindset from JFF all together...

    The difference is Baker Mayfield has a work ethic and cares about being a great QB, while Manziel had no work ethic and loved the limelight that came from being a big-shot QB, but didn't want to do the work to become a top QB in the NFL.

  • @hoorta said:

    We've already hashed this to death- you have to look at the player, not the conference. If Dorsey is OK with 6'0" Tyrod Taylor- think 6'0" height is an issue with Dorsey? 

    Mayfield would be the first QB from his conference to amount to anything at the NFL level coupled with height issues. Big 12 QBs put up video game numbers and it ends there for them.

    I don’t want the Browns to be the team crossing their fingers that Mayfield becomes the one outlier.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Mayfield would be the first QB from his conference to amount to anything at the NFL level coupled with height issues. Big 12 QBs put up video game numbers and it ends there for them.

    I don’t want the Browns to be the team crossing their fingers that Mayfield becomes the one outlier.

    This is essentially true.  We have researched this before.  The Big 12 was formed in 1994.  NO QB from the Big 12 since that time has ever won a playoff game.  A few have started....the best of the bunch has been Andy Dalton....who has lost 4 playoff games without winning one. 

    But, sure, someday, some QB from the Big 12 is going to break that pattern.  It could be Mahomes, or Mayfield, or Rudolph....or who knows.

  • @hoorta said:

    We've already hashed this to death- you have to look at the player, not the conference. If Dorsey is OK with 6'0" Tyrod Taylor- think 6'0" height is an issue with Dorsey? 

    Mayfield would be the first QB from his conference to amount to anything at the NFL level coupled with height issues. Big 12 QBs put up video game numbers and it ends there for them.

    I don’t want the Browns to be the team crossing their fingers that Mayfield becomes the one outlier.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Mayfield would be the first QB from his conference to amount to anything at the NFL level coupled with height issues. Big 12 QBs put up video game numbers and it ends there for them.

    I don’t want the Browns to be the team crossing their fingers that Mayfield becomes the one outlier.

    John Dorsey took that gamble last year with Mahomes.  I’m not a huge Mayfield fan, but if the FO thinks he’s the best QB available, they have to take him at 1

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Mayfield would be the first QB from his conference to amount to anything at the NFL level coupled with height issues. Big 12 QBs put up video game numbers and it ends there for them.

    I don’t want the Browns to be the team crossing their fingers that Mayfield becomes the one outlier.

    John Dorsey took that gamble last year with Mahomes.  I’m not a huge Mayfield fan, but if the FO thinks he’s the best QB available, they have to take him at 1

    @roycerolls said:

    John Dorsey took that gamble last year with Mahomes.  I’m not a huge Mayfield fan, but if the FO thinks he’s the best QB available, they have to take him at 1

    No doubt. You don’t hope he is there at 4. I just hope they don’t take him at all.

  • @roycerolls said:

    John Dorsey took that gamble last year with Mahomes.  I’m not a huge Mayfield fan, but if the FO thinks he’s the best QB available, they have to take him at 1

    No doubt. You don’t hope he is there at 4. I just hope they don’t take him at all.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    No doubt. You don’t hope he is there at 4. I just hope they don’t take him at all.

    If he turns out to be the guy he's worth the number one and then some. If he's not he's not worth a 5th round pick.

    WSS

  • Watching Baker Mayfield pro day ????????. Looks like he’s auditioning for the new Karate Kid.   Gimmick just like Johnny Shmuckstain wearing a helmet at his pro day  LOL. ???????????????????

  • Watching Baker Mayfield pro day ????????. Looks like he’s auditioning for the new Karate Kid.   Gimmick just like Johnny Shmuckstain wearing a helmet at his pro day  LOL. ???????????????????

    @7moses7 said:

    Watching Baker Mayfield pro day ????????. Looks like he’s auditioning for the new Karate Kid.   Gimmick just like Johnny Shmuckstain wearing a helmet at his pro day  LOL. ???????????????????

    is anyone there from the Browns ?

  • Clearly our FO don’t care about his height after the Taylor trade. 

    Taylor will be the starter but one thing we know is that he gets hurt so the rookie we do draft is going to play at some point.

    Could it be Baker? 

    @londonbrown said:

    Clearly our FO don’t care about his height after the Taylor trade. 

    Taylor will be the starter but one thing we know is that he gets hurt so the rookie we do draft is going to play at some point.

    Could it be Baker? 

    I think it very well could be... and I think he will be there at #4.

    That said, if Dorsey & Co are sold on Baker, they need to take him at #1. You don't eff around when it comes to landing your next QB.

    @mjp28 said:

    A few thoughts:

    1. Who are the 2019 quarterback prospects, too early to guess on that?

    2. A fair chance that the BROWNS will not be picking #1 maybe even 2, 3 who knows top 5 in 2019?

    3. The loss of Kizer, even though some despised his play, did change the BROWNS quarterback succession plan. Maybe #4? R2? Build up maybe three candidates going forward.

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    The 2019 QB Class is not very sexy. I do really like one of its members tho... MSU's Nick Fitzgerald.

    There are a couple decent prospects in the 2020 class that might well exit in 2019 including Oregon's Justin Herbert.

  • Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

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    @7moses7 said:

    Watching Baker Mayfield pro day ????????. Looks like he’s auditioning for the new Karate Kid.   Gimmick just like Johnny Shmuckstain wearing a helmet at his pro day  LOL. ???????????????????

    is anyone there from the Browns ?

    @syd said:

    is anyone there from the Browns ?

    Yes Johnny Manziel's counselor 

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    @7moses7 said:

    Watching Baker Mayfield pro day ????????. Looks like he’s auditioning for the new Karate Kid.   Gimmick just like Johnny Shmuckstain wearing a helmet at his pro day  LOL. ???????????????????

    is anyone there from the Browns ?

    @syd said:

    is anyone there from the Browns ?

    Nope, but they were the only ones to go to Carson Wentz’ pro day.

    I vaguely remember something being said about not a top 20 QB.

  • Dorsey and Jackson to attend Darnolds pro day

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    Dorsey and Jackson to attend Darnolds pro day

    @syd said:

    Dorsey and Jackson to attend Darnolds pro day

    which is this hump day Wednesday the 21st (whew,the 22nd I turn into "Billy" goat day).. bah..even try to avoid #2pm pro day start times

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    WTF is "billy goat day"?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...

    Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.

  • WTF is "billy goat day"?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...

    Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.

    @tour2ma said:

    WTF is "billy goat day"?

    spring your decoder ring forward 1 hour😉  there once was this GOAT that played QB at or with the A&M Aggies of Texas..Such lad was under so much stress he failed his secret double probation that he/she even bought a wig & went to Vegas under Code Name "Billy" at bar for a few drinks..I honored this kids white Jersey a few years ago today by dyeing it Green for beers poured on it today

  • lol... thanks.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    Please, Jesus... not him.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor. 

    It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.

    And how did you answer your own question?

  • Baker Mayfield is from the Big 12, but he was the QB that beat Ohio State's top tier defense.  In the loss against Georgia, he still threw for 287 yards and 2 TD to 1 interception. He has done very well against the competition he was given in college

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1/gamelog/

    while you can say that for all of the top-ranked QBs,  a big reason why I like Baker Mayfield the best is he doesn't have any one "obvious" red flag besides his height.  With Darnold (who I think the Browns will pick) the major issue I have with him is the amount of fumbles he has lost/long windup, and with Rosen it's the injury history/the fact he does not want to be here.  Cleveland QBs get hit a lot and I don't know if Rosen will survive if he is drafted here.  

    Of course, my opinion doesn't mean anything and the Browns will do what the Browns do.  Can't' wait until actual football season starts again.