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  • No thanks, OBJ will cost a fortune and they’re already gonna pay Landry a shitload.  The Browns may add a rookie WR in the draft, and as long as the QB pans out, the WR corps will be more than good enough to win games. 

    @roycerolls said:

    No thanks, OBJ will cost a fortune and they’re already gonna pay Landry a shitload.  

    the difference between OBJ and Jarvis Landry is the difference between a toyota camry and an audi R8. 

  • As you know he had that video that went viral a couple of days ago, and in the last year of his contract, the Giants might be tempted to move on. 

    Would you trade Corey Coleman and the 4th Pick for OBJ ? He would reunite with one of his best friend in Landry and have his college receiver coach with him.

    I mean you would have Gordon, Beckham, Jandry......

    @tiott said:

    As you know he had that video that went viral a couple of days ago, and in the last year of his contract, the Giants might be tempted to move on. 

    Would you trade Corey Coleman and the 4th Pick for OBJ ? He would reunite with one of his best friend in Landry and have his college receiver coach with him.

    I mean you would have Gordon, Beckham, Landry......

    ^^^ No, especially if you mean the #4 overall. . 

    @jcam222 said:

    OBJ was already questionable as a headcase teammate and contributor, the video locks him in as trade cancer

    ^^^ Yes

    @tacosman said:

    the difference between OBJ and Jarvis Landry is the difference between a toyota camry and an audi R8. 

    Beckham is angling for a $20 million a year contract. We're already going to be paying Landry a ton, assuming Gordon stays clean he's going to want top 10 money. $50 million a year tied up in one position?  Pass.   

  • @poeticg said:

    Whatever you say bro. We are taking him #1. 

    There's no way that they traded kizer away to not take a qb and are pinning their hopes on tyrod Taylor long term. 

    We're not taking Saquon Barkley #1. It's not happening. And if you look at Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders and Ladanian Tomlinson what were they able to do without a franchise qb? 

    I'll answer that for you. Not much. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    There's no way that they traded kizer away to not take a qb and are pinning their hopes on tyrod Taylor long term. 

    We're not taking Saquon Barkley #1. It's not happening.

    It’s that obvious and yet some still refuse to grasp it 

  • As you know he had that video that went viral a couple of days ago, and in the last year of his contract, the Giants might be tempted to move on. 

    Would you trade Corey Coleman and the 4th Pick for OBJ ? He would reunite with one of his best friend in Landry and have his college receiver coach with him.

    I mean you would have Gordon, Beckham, Jandry......

    @tiott said:

    As you know he had that video that went viral a couple of days ago, and in the last year of his contract, the Giants might be tempted to move on. 

    Would you trade Corey Coleman and the 4th Pick for OBJ ? He would reunite with one of his best friend in Landry and have his college receiver coach with him.

    I mean you would have Gordon, Beckham, Jandry......

    He may also be a bad influence on Gordon...and he may attempt to reintroduce him to his drug habit. 

    OBJ  may be just a few puffs away from being a younger Josh Gordon.

    As someone said on TV this morning:   OBJ was totally comfortable being around when drugs were being used.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Can't remember Barry being tackled open field by nickel DB's...

    Would you care to post a link to said accusation? I don't think you're being honest.

    @poeticg said:

    Would you care to post a link to said accusation? I don't think you're being honest.

    I'm not even sure what the Shmuck you're talking about.    In my sessions of watching Barkley, I wasn't impressed with his open field moves.   Watched DB's from Iowa routinely take him on and secure the tackle 1on1.

  • @roycerolls said:

    No thanks, OBJ will cost a fortune and they’re already gonna pay Landry a shitload.  

    the difference between OBJ and Jarvis Landry is the difference between a toyota camry and an audi R8. 

    @tacosman said:

    the difference between OBJ and Jarvis Landry is the difference between a toyota camry and an audi R8. 

    Youre right, one is high maintenance, over priced transportation while the other will get you to all the same places while being more reliable and a higher value.  Glad we see eye to eye.

  • @poeticg said:

    Give em #33 and we can talk. 

    #1 is Barkley

    #4 is a QB or Fitzpatrick

    #33- Beckham(we can even throw in an extra 4th for good measure) 😉

    Dude.. Barkley is not Zeke Elliott or Emmitt Smith good.. put the fukkin crack pipe down... Were not one player away from a super bowl run yet...

    @nickers said:

    Dude.. Barkley is not Zeke Elliott or Emmitt Smith good.. put the fukkin crack pipe down... Were not one player away from a super bowl run yet...

    How do you know this?  You can't predict how a player will play from his college days.  It all comes to what he has around him in the pros.  Honestly, I think he could be even better than Zeke, Emmit, or Bell.  

  • @nickers said:

    Dude.. Barkley is not Zeke Elliott or Emmitt Smith good.. put the fukkin crack pipe down... Were not one player away from a super bowl run yet...

    How do you know this?  You can't predict how a player will play from his college days.  It all comes to what he has around him in the pros.  Honestly, I think he could be even better than Zeke, Emmit, or Bell.  

    @dawg2fan said:

    How do you know this?  You can't predict how a player will play from his college days.  It all comes to what he has around him in the pros.  Honestly, I think he could be even better than Zeke, Emmit, or Bell.  

    Or maybe he could be no better than  Zeke Bratkowski, Emmit Kelly, or Ricky Bell.

    You can google those names if you don't know them. 

  • @dawg2fan said:

    How do you know this?  You can't predict how a player will play from his college days.  It all comes to what he has around him in the pros.  Honestly, I think he could be even better than Zeke, Emmit, or Bell.  

    Or maybe he could be no better than  Zeke Bratkowski, Emmit Kelly, or Ricky Bell.

    You can google those names if you don't know them. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Or maybe he could be no better than  Zeke Bratkowski, Emmit Kelly, or Ricky Bell.

    You can google those names if you don't know them. 

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Or maybe he could be no better than  Zeke Bratkowski, Emmit Kelly, or Ricky Bell.

    You can google those names if you don't know them. 

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

    @dawg2fan said:

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

    We've been down this road before. Some pointed it out earlier in this thread. Even an upper echelon HOF running back can't win multiple Super Bowls by himself. Jim Brown=1, Walter Payton=1, Barry Sanders=0, Ladanian Tomlinson=0, Adrian Peterson=0. Some guys are making Saquon into a best version of all the previously mentioned- and he isn't. 

    BTW, looking at the top 25 all time in rushing yardage only three (Brown, Payton, and Sanders) played their entire careers with one team. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Or maybe he could be no better than  Zeke Bratkowski, Emmit Kelly, or Ricky Bell.

    You can google those names if you don't know them. 

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

    @dawg2fan said:

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

    I get the drift that you think the Barkley is the second coming.    But, if you DID bother, you would see that  Emmitt Kelly was a clown (an actual circus clown).

    And SQB may actually BE the second coming of Ricky Bell:

    Ricky Bell was the first overall draft choice in the 1977 NFL Draft, selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were winless in their first season in 1976. Bell signed a five-year contract for a reported $1.2 million, by far the richest contract ever signed by an NFL rookie.[7][8][9][10] This draft choice was somewhat controversial because Tony Dorsett was being projected as an arguably better back than Bell. Bell's selection was not a surprise, however, because Tampa Bay was coached by John McKay, Bell's former head coach at USC through 1975. After a couple mediocre seasons, in 1979, Bell enjoyed his finest season, rushing for 1,263 yards and leading the Buccaneers to the championship of the NFC Central Division. He led the Buccaneers to their first playoff win in franchise history that season by rushing for 142 yards on 38 carries scoring two touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles. The team fell one game short of a trip to Super Bowl XIV, ending their season by losing to the Los Angeles Rams for the NFC championship.

    In March 1982, McKay sent him to the San Diego Chargers, but suffering from weight loss, aching muscles, and severe skin problems, he retired before the 1983 season.[3

    And he died in 1984....from what allegedly was heart disease...but may actually have been drugs.

  • Beckham with Gordon? Oh please no, Josh doesn't need the coke whores and OBJ to tempt him. If Beckham showed up with those girls, and you played for the Browns, I dare one of you to tell me you could decline the women and all of the stuff that came with it if he hit you up to hang out.

  • G-wiz we've got to be able to find another bad attitude team cancer player for a lot less money, right?

    WSS

  • @tacosman said:

    the difference between OBJ and Jarvis Landry is the difference between a toyota camry and an audi R8. 

    Youre right, one is high maintenance, over priced transportation while the other will get you to all the same places while being more reliable and a higher value.  Glad we see eye to eye.

    @roycerolls said:

    Youre right, one is high maintenance, over priced transportation while the other will get you to all the same places while being more reliable and a higher value.  Glad we see eye to eye.

    OBJ is of a different stratosphere of value compared to landry.   the thread is ridiculous the giants arent getting rid of beckham and if they did it wouldnt be to us, but OBJ is a top 3 reciever when healthy.  Jarvis Landry is not a top 20 reciever.  

  • @roycerolls said:

    Youre right, one is high maintenance, over priced transportation while the other will get you to all the same places while being more reliable and a higher value.  Glad we see eye to eye.

    OBJ is of a different stratosphere of value compared to landry.   the thread is ridiculous the giants arent getting rid of beckham and if they did it wouldnt be to us, but OBJ is a top 3 reciever when healthy.  Jarvis Landry is not a top 20 reciever.  

    @tacosman said:

    OBJ is of a different stratosphere of value compared to landry.   the thread is ridiculous the giants arent getting rid of beckham and if they did it wouldnt be to us, but OBJ is a top 3 reciever when healthy.  Jarvis Landry is not a top 20 reciever.  

    Right....Landry was the #1 receiver....in terms of receptions.......

  • He's a cancer. No thanks. Plus, how are the browns going to keep ALL 3 of those guys  happy? It's not possible. Plus, you have to pay them. So not only do you have to make a trade giving up big assets for him, but then you have to pay him at least $18mil/yr plus pay landry PLUS pay Gordon next year. Pass pas pass. 

    Which means Dorsey will do it...He'll flip #1 for #2 and OBJ...just watch

  • OBJ makes no sense for us...

    Has availability issues in addition to "me" issues.

    Won't do anything for us in the next 3 years.

    Won't be able to afford him in 4 years.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    There's no way Dorsey is taking saquon Barkley #1 overall. I'll bet you one u.s. dollar that we go qb #1

    Whatever you say bro. We are taking him #1. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You would rather give the Giants damn near a first rounder instead of Coleman and a 4th rounder?

    Jesus, you are dumb.

    My reading comprehension and response was accurately portrayed in my proposal. 

    The hypothetical trade was for Corey Coleman and the 4th pick. 

    @poeticg said:

    Whatever you say bro. We are taking him #1. 

    My reading comprehension and response was accurately portrayed in my proposal. 

    The hypothetical trade was for Corey Coleman and the 4th pick. 

    Then take my $1 us bet. And when you lose you have to be known as "Barkley's bottom" henceforth. And for the Cal's of the board it will have to be made clear that that it is being used like the uh...pink team...would use it. 

  • @dawg2fan said:

    No, won't even bother.  But I think you get my drift.

    I get the drift that you think the Barkley is the second coming.    But, if you DID bother, you would see that  Emmitt Kelly was a clown (an actual circus clown).

    And SQB may actually BE the second coming of Ricky Bell:

    Ricky Bell was the first overall draft choice in the 1977 NFL Draft, selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were winless in their first season in 1976. Bell signed a five-year contract for a reported $1.2 million, by far the richest contract ever signed by an NFL rookie.[7][8][9][10] This draft choice was somewhat controversial because Tony Dorsett was being projected as an arguably better back than Bell. Bell's selection was not a surprise, however, because Tampa Bay was coached by John McKay, Bell's former head coach at USC through 1975. After a couple mediocre seasons, in 1979, Bell enjoyed his finest season, rushing for 1,263 yards and leading the Buccaneers to the championship of the NFC Central Division. He led the Buccaneers to their first playoff win in franchise history that season by rushing for 142 yards on 38 carries scoring two touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles. The team fell one game short of a trip to Super Bowl XIV, ending their season by losing to the Los Angeles Rams for the NFC championship.

    In March 1982, McKay sent him to the San Diego Chargers, but suffering from weight loss, aching muscles, and severe skin problems, he retired before the 1983 season.[3

    And he died in 1984....from what allegedly was heart disease...but may actually have been drugs.

    @the-gipper said:

    I get the drift that you think the Barkley is the second coming.    But, if you DID bother, you would see that  Emmitt Kelly was a clown (an actual circus clown).

    And SQB may actually BE the second coming of Ricky Bell:

    Ricky Bell was the first overall draft choice in the 1977 NFL Draft, selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were winless in their first season in 1976. Bell signed a five-year contract for a reported $1.2 million, by far the richest contract ever signed by an NFL rookie.[7][8][9][10] This draft choice was somewhat controversial because Tony Dorsett was being projected as an arguably better back than Bell.

    Let me ask you a question.  Who had the better football "TEAM", Dallas or Tampa Bay?  Dallas of course.  The Bucs had the worst record in the league and having the best RB doesn't help, as a matter of fact, he wouldn't last.   I've read other post suggesting that if you draft the best RB, you're on your way to the SB.  I've always talked about having a good team to win.  This is why I always talked about all positions.  I'm about to rub a lot of people the wrong way with this statement.  Tom Brady is a much better QB than Joe Montana was.  Brady won SBs with no name players.  Joe Montana had household names around him always.  I can name all the players Joe had around him, but who did Brady have when he won the SB?  Ok board, let me have it. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I get the drift that you think the Barkley is the second coming.    But, if you DID bother, you would see that  Emmitt Kelly was a clown (an actual circus clown).

    And SQB may actually BE the second coming of Ricky Bell:

    Ricky Bell was the first overall draft choice in the 1977 NFL Draft, selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were winless in their first season in 1976. Bell signed a five-year contract for a reported $1.2 million, by far the richest contract ever signed by an NFL rookie.[7][8][9][10] This draft choice was somewhat controversial because Tony Dorsett was being projected as an arguably better back than Bell.

    Let me ask you a question.  Who had the better football "TEAM", Dallas or Tampa Bay?  Dallas of course.  The Bucs had the worst record in the league and having the best RB doesn't help, as a matter of fact, he wouldn't last.   I've read other post suggesting that if you draft the best RB, you're on your way to the SB.  I've always talked about having a good team to win.  This is why I always talked about all positions.  I'm about to rub a lot of people the wrong way with this statement.  Tom Brady is a much better QB than Joe Montana was.  Brady won SBs with no name players.  Joe Montana had household names around him always.  I can name all the players Joe had around him, but who did Brady have when he won the SB?  Ok board, let me have it. 

    @dawg2fan said:

    Let me ask you a question.  Who had the better football "TEAM", Dallas or Tampa Bay?  Dallas of course.  The Bucs had the worst record in the league and having the best RB doesn't help, as a matter of fact, he wouldn't last.   I've read other post suggesting that if you draft the best RB, you're on your way to the SB.  I've always talked about having a good team to win.  This is why I always talked about all positions.  I'm about to rub a lot of people the wrong way with this statement.  Tom Brady is a much better QB than Joe Montana was.  Brady won SBs with no name players.  Joe Montana had household names around him always.  I can name all the players Joe had around him, but who did Brady have when he won the SB?  Ok board, let me have it. 

    A.  Other than Jerry Rice  and Ronnie Lott....Joe M. did not play with a lot of HOF players.   Compare that to some other dynasties, such as the 70s steelers,  60s Packers, 50s Browns....which each had 10-11 other HOF players on those teams. 

    Besides, I don't think you can call Gronkowski a "no name player"....and a number of other TB has played with have had very big names. 

    On the other matter....I think it was basically a fact that Dorsett was a better player than Ricky Bell....and I think that would have been true if their picks had been reversed.

    This has always been an ongoing debate?   What if the Steelers had taken Mike Phipps #1  instead of Terry Bradshaw the same year?  Would that team still have been a dynasty with Mike Phipps?  Most doubt it.   Would the Browns have been much better with Terry Bradshaw?

    The same for 1999......we picked Couch....instead of Donovan McNabb.    Would the Browns have been much better with him?   Would the Eagles have gone to like 4 NFC title games with Couch?

    But....bottom line...you can debate between Joe Montana and Tom Brady all you want......Otto Graham was still better than both of them...😛