Jets trade up
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Yes.
Then they will trade the #4 away.
Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
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Yes.
Then they will trade the #4 away.
Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
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Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
Not that I disagree but Dorsey doesn't strike me as someone who cares about us crucifying him
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Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
Not that I disagree but Dorsey doesn't strike me as someone who cares about us crucifying him
Not that I disagree but Dorsey doesn't strike me as someone who cares about us crucifying him
It would not just be us. The nation, the planet, the solar system, the galaxy, the universe.
Well...maybe not quite that badly.
You remember what Sam Rutigliano said : A billion Chinese could care less about who won this game. (well....now it is up to about 2 billion.)
So...maybe 2 billion Chinese could care less.....but I think Dorsey would.
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Yes.
Then they will trade the #4 away.
Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Hue Jackson calls the shots. He wants another black Tarkenton. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past these jackoffs. Ah.. they DID take Zumba Girl at #1 #1, and Coleman. So, save the theatrics. It ain't like the Browns haven't done dumber things.
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Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
So you are saying that the Browns are racist.
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Yes.
Then they will trade the #4 away.
What? You think Sashi is still running the draft? It's going to be a quarterback, but definitely not Jackson. We're not taking the 5-6th best quarterback at #1. We may trade out of the #4, but I wouldn't count on it.
I'd suggest you watch some tape on Chubb- a Zumba instructor he isn't. He's currently my pick at #4.
What? You think Sashi is still running the draft? It's going to be a quarterback, but definitely not Jackson. We're not taking the 5-6th best quarterback at #1. We may trade out of the #4, but I wouldn't count on it.
I'd suggest you watch some tape on Chubb- a Zumba instructor he isn't. He's currently my pick at #4.
They need players who can win football games. What the fukc good is a QB with no running backs, tight ends or WRs? Barkely is the pick at #1, Trade Coleman and Garrett with some combination of this year's #4 and next year's 1st. Pick 3 times in the first round. RB, QB WR then a WR in the first pick of the second round. ANything else will yield MORE NOTHING
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Not even in an alternate universe run by Ray Farmer would we take Lamar Jackson at #1. At least make it something believable like we trade down multi times from #1 and #4 ending up with Jackson later in the draft. Not something I want but at least something in the realm of believable.
Hue Jackson calls the shots. He wants another black Tarkenton. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past these jackoffs. Ah.. they DID take Zumba Girl at #1 #1, and Coleman. So, save the theatrics. It ain't like the Browns haven't done dumber things.
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Semi-realistic would be that they draft a combination of Chubb, Minkah, Barkley.....or some other position player....and they go for QB at the top of round 2.
Only 2 problems with that: A. They are NOT going to pass on a QB......they would be crucified, crucified, crucified. and B. If they did....they would still not take Jackson....they would take Rudolph...or White or Lauletta or one of the others that may be available then.
So you are saying that the Browns are racist.
So you are saying that the Browns are racist.
In reality....quite the contrary. They were, after all named after a Brown man.....Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber.
Its just that all the top rated QBs this year happen to be white.
If there were a Cam Newton, Jameis Winston...maybe even a DeShaun Watson or Marcus Mariota....all people of color, they would be on them like hotcakes likely.
Besides.....in case you haven't noticed lately....our QB IS black. (SSSHHHush)
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You're overly negative Ghoolie.
I don't see the value of taking a RB #1 overall. Even Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't be worth that in today's NFL. - It's Pass & Rush the Passer. We want the best QB in the draft. Not the best RB. We can do fine with the right 2nd round RB. - Yes, we need WR. At TE we 'should' be ok. Our offense needs all the attention it can get...but the best pass rusher in the draft at #4 would help our team immensely.
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I'm late to this thread, but these news mean a few good things for me:
1. Browns are not trading down from #1, thus taking the best QB in their board.
2. NY is taking a QB or waiting for the Bills/Denver to get nervous and make the most out of #2. Either way, #2 is a QB too.
3. Jets take a QB at #3
4. The draft starts again for the Browns with the overall #1 pick but with the addition of a promising QB (let's hope he becomes a good franchise quaterback). Therefore, we can take BPA, or even trade down with Denver and take BPA anyway (this is best case scenario, with NY taking a QB too).
Anyway, I guess #4 pick has rised its stock, but I doubt anyone will go crazy for the 4th QB: it would show bad planning by a team if ANY Qb would fit into their system, as they're very different prospects. It would be weird for me if the QB board would look COMPLETELY different between NFL teams... There will be probably a consensus on who's 4th best among QB needy teams.
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You're overly negative Ghoolie.
I don't see the value of taking a RB #1 overall. Even Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't be worth that in today's NFL. - It's Pass & Rush the Passer. We want the best QB in the draft. Not the best RB. We can do fine with the right 2nd round RB. - Yes, we need WR. At TE we 'should' be ok. Our offense needs all the attention it can get...but the best pass rusher in the draft at #4 would help our team immensely.
You're overly negative Ghoolie.
You are just now getting around to figuring that out about him?
I don't see the value of taking a RB #1 overall. Even Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't be worth that in today's NFL. - It's Pass & Rush the Passer. We want the best QB in the draft. Not the best RB. We can do fine with the right 2nd round RB. - Yes, we need WR. At TE we 'should' be ok. Our offense needs all the attention it can get...but the best pass rusher in the draft at #4 would help our team immensely.
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I would love to know which quarterbacks these three teams had their sights on. Is Darnold the safe pick? Has Rosen got the best chance? Does Mayfield have the highest ceiling? Will Allen be the next Roethlisberger? Or the next Kizer?
WSS
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I'm late to this thread, but these news mean a few good things for me:
1. Browns are not trading down from #1, thus taking the best QB in their board.
2. NY is taking a QB or waiting for the Bills/Denver to get nervous and make the most out of #2. Either way, #2 is a QB too.
3. Jets take a QB at #3
4. The draft starts again for the Browns with the overall #1 pick but with the addition of a promising QB (let's hope he becomes a good franchise quaterback). Therefore, we can take BPA, or even trade down with Denver and take BPA anyway (this is best case scenario, with NY taking a QB too).
Anyway, I guess #4 pick has rised its stock, but I doubt anyone will go crazy for the 4th QB: it would show bad planning by a team if ANY Qb would fit into their system, as they're very different prospects. It would be weird for me if the QB board would look COMPLETELY different between NFL teams... There will be probably a consensus on who's 4th best among QB needy teams.
I'm late to this thread, but these news mean a few good things for me:
1. Browns are not trading down from #1, thus taking the best QB in their board.
2. NY is taking a QB or waiting for the Bills/Denver to get nervous and make the most out of #2. Either way, #2 is a QB too.
3. Jets take a QB at #3
4. The draft starts again for the Browns with the overall #1 pick but with the addition of a promising QB (let's hope he becomes a good franchise quaterback). Therefore, we can take BPA, or even trade down with Denver and take BPA anyway (this is best case scenario, with NY taking a QB too).
Anyway, I guess #4 pick has rised its stock, but I doubt anyone will go crazy for the 4th QB: it would show bad planning by a team if ANY Qb would fit into their system, as they're very different prospects. It would be weird for me if the QB board would look COMPLETELY different between NFL teams... There will be probably a consensus on who's 4th best among QB needy teams.
Only problem: who can say that the 4th QB...or even the 5th or 6th QB in this group is any better or any worse than what someone else thinks is #1
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Chubb #1 overall and Josh Allen... Darren, quite now- adults are talking...
Adults are capable of spelling the word "quiet'...
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What? You think Sashi is still running the draft? It's going to be a quarterback, but definitely not Jackson. We're not taking the 5-6th best quarterback at #1. We may trade out of the #4, but I wouldn't count on it.
I'd suggest you watch some tape on Chubb- a Zumba instructor he isn't. He's currently my pick at #4.
They need players who can win football games. What the fukc good is a QB with no running backs, tight ends or WRs? Barkely is the pick at #1, Trade Coleman and Garrett with some combination of this year's #4 and next year's 1st. Pick 3 times in the first round. RB, QB WR then a WR in the first pick of the second round. ANything else will yield MORE NOTHING
They need players who can win football games. What the fukc good is a QB with no running backs, tight ends or WRs? Barkely is the pick at #1, Trade Coleman and Garrett with some combination of this year's #4 and next year's 1st. Pick 3 times in the first round. RB, QB WR then a WR in the first pick of the second round. ANything else will yield MORE NOTHING
In case you haven't heard- this is a weak WR class, so sure, let's draft a couple more Colemans. Barkley is a a Zumba Instructor that can't pick up tough yards inside.
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You're overly negative Ghoolie.
I don't see the value of taking a RB #1 overall. Even Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't be worth that in today's NFL. - It's Pass & Rush the Passer. We want the best QB in the draft. Not the best RB. We can do fine with the right 2nd round RB. - Yes, we need WR. At TE we 'should' be ok. Our offense needs all the attention it can get...but the best pass rusher in the draft at #4 would help our team immensely.
Even Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't be worth that in today's NFL.
This just in... JB wasn't seen as worth that in the 50's either.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
They need players who can win football games. What the fukc good is a QB with no running backs, tight ends or WRs? Barkely is the pick at #1, Trade Coleman and Garrett with some combination of this year's #4 and next year's 1st. Pick 3 times in the first round. RB, QB WR then a WR in the first pick of the second round. ANything else will yield MORE NOTHING
In case you haven't heard- this is a weak WR class, so sure, let's draft a couple more Colemans. Barkley is a a Zumba Instructor that can't pick up tough yards inside.
In case you haven't heard- this is a weak WR class, so sure, let's draft a couple more Colemans. Barkley is a a Zumba Instructor that can't pick up tough yards inside.
I think that was once the narrative, h, but while it lacks elite talent at the top I think it is proving to be deep in good to very good WR talent. We may only see one or two go Day 1, but could easily see a dozen go Day 2.
As for Barky... if there's one criticism of him it is that he does not pound into the line inside.
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