EJ Gaines signing for the Browns
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Healthy thru college (Mizzou), but missed 5 games each of past two years.
Short 5'09... slightly long wingspan... only a 31.5" vert...OK speed 4.51.
PFF ranked him as the 13th best corner in the league either you have a nose for the ball or you don't and seems to have it maybe this will shut up all the winners about trading McCourtney
PFF ranked him as the 13th best corner in the league either you have a nose for the ball or you don't and seems to have it maybe this will shut up all the winners about trading McCourtney
So if he's available he's good... got it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Healthy thru college (Mizzou), but missed 5 games each of past two years.
Short 5'09... slightly long wingspan... only a 31.5" vert...OK speed 4.51.
I like how you say "only" 31" vertical yours is what? Yeah, 40+" is good, but that doesn't necessarily translate to NFL success. https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/what-are-the-highest-vertical-jumps-in-nfl-scouting-combine-history.html/?a=viewall
nfl.com has him listed an inch taller 5' 10", and depending on who you want to believe 185 or 195. Played for Williams on the Rams, so Greg knows what he's getting...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/browns_sign_cb_ej_gaines_reuni.html
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Deal done....
John Kosko @PFF_JohnKosko 24m24 minutes ago
John Kosko@JohnKosko3Gaines 13th best CB in NFL last year. Good signing by the Browns x.com/adross77/statu…MoreJohn Kosko Retweeted Andy Ross
Gaines 13th best CB in NFL last year. Good signing by the Browns
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even with missed games still a huge upgrade over McCourtney
Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons...
McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists
EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists
I get younger option, but what am I missing?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
even with missed games still a huge upgrade over McCourtney
Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons...
McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists
EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists
I get younger option, but what am I missing?
Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons...
McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists
EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists
I get younger option, but what am I missing?
Tour, you just don't see that the guy is a real leader. I would say a "real football player". Fiery. A real winner. And other stuff that can't be measured and/or related to football in anyway.
All joking aside, I hope Gaines plays well and can stay on the field.
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Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons...
McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists
EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists
I get younger option, but what am I missing?
Tour, you just don't see that the guy is a real leader. I would say a "real football player". Fiery. A real winner. And other stuff that can't be measured and/or related to football in anyway.
All joking aside, I hope Gaines plays well and can stay on the field.
Tour, you just don't see that the guy is a real leader. I would say a "real football player". Fiery. A real winner. And other stuff that can't be measured and/or related to football in anyway.
All joking aside, I hope Gaines plays well and can stay on the field.
If he stays on the field the gains will be ours
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Bottom Line: since they dumped McCourty.....Browns needed a guy. Seems like he fits as well as anyone.
May be another indication that they may not be going DB with that 4th pick.
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Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018Well then, maybe, hopefully they DO still have some DBs in mind for early in the draft. If they don't take one at 4, I think they have to get one or two in rounds 2-3.
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Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018so this dude has never coached at any level let alone being a scout for a NFL team and u put this crap out there like i am going to take his word over what Dorsey has planned ?
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so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
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so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
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so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
We've added pieces all over the team, we really don't have any holes right now. We could go and play tomorrow if we had to. We've set ourselves up to take what the draft is going to give us, BPA all the way- it's what successful teams do. I see it as it should be, you fill your holes in FA and take the best players and make yourself better through the draft/development process.
Going into FA, our biggest needs were QB, CB/S, RB, WR, OL. We've solidly addressed all of these.
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Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018Dissenting opinion...
Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy
McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season.
11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018Considering the Browns had like for corners dressed for games last year I can see how this is a down grade, we dont even know how good....or bad Howard Wilson is yet. I think the Browns are better in the secondary. We have a free safety who can cover for sure, thats an upgrade. We definitely have more depth and quality depth. We will see how it works out but I suspect our nickel and dime packages are a lot better already.
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Are we around half way now when it comes to teams with the most cap space ?
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so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
We've added pieces all over the team, we really don't have any holes right now. We could go and play tomorrow if we had to. We've set ourselves up to take what the draft is going to give us, BPA all the way- it's what successful teams do. I see it as it should be, you fill your holes in FA and take the best players and make yourself better through the draft/development process.
Going into FA, our biggest needs were QB, CB/S, RB, WR, OL. We've solidly addressed all of these.
We've added pieces all over the team, we really don't have any holes right now. We could go and play tomorrow if we had to. We've set ourselves up to take what the draft is going to give us, BPA all the way- it's what successful teams do. I see it as it should be, you fill your holes in FA and take the best players and make yourself better through the draft/development process.
Going into FA, our biggest needs were QB, CB/S, RB, WR, OL. We've solidly addressed all of these.
Well since RB isn't a need anymore, no reason to draft your boy ? JK
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so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so.
I still thinking Ward... Yes, we've made moves, but where is the shutdown corner?
As Runyon pointed out we still have to see what Howard Wilson can bring, but someone has to push Carrie back to slot duty.
And Safety is a real unknown... times two.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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