Jeff Janis Signed.

Canton Mike

I liked him as a later round draft pick. Decent pick up.

Mike

LogicIsForSquares

A body. Had good measurable but didn’t convert it to much.

jcam222

@logicisforsquares said:

A body. Had good measurable but didn’t convert it to much.

True but in fairness it was buried pretty deep on an impressive depth chart. The few times I have put him on the field as a receiver he seems to produce. I think it's 63 running a 44 opposite Gordon with Landry in the slot he may surprise

gumby73

Welcome Jeff Janis!!..I remembered a cool video story on this guy.. (neither Jeff nor Wife knew gender of 1st baby.A family member loaded powder.Thats his Dad's backyard)

just posted about ride to Dads to Michigan vacation & drive right thru Janis's hometown of Tawas City,Mi. just outside Bay City. Janis is another safe kickoff return guy with no turnovers. Liked his combine speed of 4.42 at 6'3" 219..killer 3 cone of 6.64...20 shuttle of 3.98..Carries some smarts with 30 on wonderlic..(hey & for those keeping score at home..He's White'ish)

Orion

At 6'3 - 219 lb...he must look good getting off the bus. An upgrade over Sammy Coates?

gumby73

@orion said:

At 6'3 - 219 lb...he must look good getting off the bus. An upgrade over Sammy Coates?

Janis is 26 with all the Combine skills that Fred Biletnikoff was never tested for.. https://www.totalpackers.com/2018/03/good-luck-in-finding-a-wide-receiver-in-the-2018-draft/ buried behind some WR's at Packers, a browns roster has not seen far before the Ray Farmer boycott of WR's.

hish747

Janis really stood out at the combine and I wished the Browns would have drafted him. He's got size, speed, great hands and runs great routes. So with all this, it was never clear to me why he wasn't the number 2 behind Nelson. I don't think he ever achieved his potential because he wasn't used properly. Sure hope the Browns use him the right way and not waste him on ST.

jcam222

@cvcanedy said:

Good data, Gip. I struggle with the correlation, though, assuming someone thinks there is one. Maybe I’m wrong.

I think I think Janis is good for 6+ TD's across from Gordon with Landry in the middle if they play him as a starter.

Orion

@gumby73 said:

before the Ray Farmer boycott of WR's.

Great line!

Zombo

This guy will stick to the roster and be our KR and special teams maven and has some upside as a receiver.

Sly signing.

Zombo

TexasAg1969

Zombo said:

This guy will stick to the roster and be our KR and special teams maven and has some upside as a receiver.

Sly signing.

Zombo

Unless we draft Kirk.

gumby73

Janis is a outside Gunner on Punts & KO's..GB ranked like 5th against returns..wonder if Cribbs had any feedback in decision? It's a fun position to play & Janis fits it well..

darren15

Maybe we should of tried Erving at WR before we traded him

tiamat63

LaDexter said:

Then again, one team spent a First Round pick on Cam Erving and failed to notice he was an OT, not an interior OL....

We didn't fail to notice - Cam was trash there as well.

Tour2ma

LaDexter said:

Then again, one team spent a First Round pick on Cam Erving and failed to notice he was an OT, not an interior OL.... and, now, who needs an OLT and who isn't a Brown....???

Nice going, Hue....

tia beat me to rebutting Cam... but left me the OLT to address. Need there is TBD............................................................................................ but Cam sure as hell was not the answer.

Turns out I could not resist a good, Cam pile-on.

Welcome... interesting comment on Janis. Does he really flip his hips well?

LogicIsForSquares

LaDexter said:

After you idiots wrecked him inside.

Initially, he was fine at OLT filling in for JT his first preseason...

and then someone moved him inside, where his long frame was never suited to go...

Yes, Cam’s move inside with the Browns is totally why he completely blows. It had nothing to do with his lack of skill, strength, or athleticism.

LogicIsForSquares

LaDexter said:

Is it OK to suggest looking at Janis at DB, or are there an endless "they know better than you" parrots here....

Nah. We like talking position changes around here. Cam was making the switch to selling concessions before he got traded.

tiamat63

LaDexter said:

After you idiots wrecked him inside.

Initially, he was fine at OLT filling in for JT his first preseason...

and then someone moved him inside, where his long frame was never suited to go...

One pre-season game, eh? By this logic something went wrong with Brady between his debut and then regular season performances. We must have wrecked him by asking him to actually push the ball vertically.

Cam's feet were/are trash, length be damned. Oline isn't even my thing and I saw that.

Anywho back to our regularly schedule program - Janis at DB, eh? Physically it makes sense. Mentally and technically on the other hand....

tiamat63

LaDexter said:

Pro Bowl Gunner....

yeah, the "mentality" is there, even for Strong Safety.....

Ever see Janis hit someone as a gunner?

You have all these huge guys at WR and TE these days.

Janis can hang with all of them. Size/speed/turning/ball tracking/tackling is all there.

Mentally I meant by key recognition, route concept recognition, understanding his own place within a defense and where he helps/help is... comfortable aligning and potentially making secondary calls and shifts, mirroring receivers, etc etc. DB goes far beyond "big, strong, fast" or Taylor Mays might be the GOAT.

That said, as intriguing as it is - can't see someone 4-5 years in the league making that transition after having played with a future HoF QB and being able to impart that knowledge and experience on this young team. But I've been wrong before....

Tour2ma

LaDexter said:

Is it OK to suggest looking at Janis at DB, or

are there an endless "they know better than you" parrots here....

Sure... novel thoughts are always welcome.
Don't know about "parrots", but there are many of us here that break down tape, think for ourselves and disagree when it's warranted... and in the case of your stance on Cam, it's warranted.

Preseason? Really... that's your argument?