Jonathan Paul Manziel

[gftChris]

@texasag1969 said:

Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?

This from Kevin Jones' article wrapping up minicamp:

• We quizzed a bunch of different Browns’ players on who they think is the fastest player on the roster – that fun video will be coming soon. The answers varied between six different people, a fantastic problem to have. The most common names: Andrew Hawkins, Anthony Armstrong, Buster Skrine, Johnny Manziel andJosh Gordon.

Yes, it did surprise me, because his 40 time is nothing special - assuming they're talking about flat out speed. I'd also expect Benjamin to be in there when fit, and Gilbert to be up there.

[miktoxic]

@nickers said:

The way I see it.... We have 2 QB's that technically are unproven...by the end of TC... One of them is starting. Based on experience, I expect Hoyer to be the starter. But both QB's still have a lot to prove. if one of these kids does not grab the reigns it wont matter who starts. It will mean were still searching for our QB.

dude. i've been trying to figure out for the longest what your avatar is. i know there's a strat in it so is someone playing it? eric clapton? it's so flippin small it's hard to see.

[gftChris]

@miktoxic said:

dude. i've been trying to figure out for the longest what your avatar is. i know there's a strat in it so is someone playing it? eric clapton? it's so flippin small it's hard to see.

Try this? (Testing to see if it works)

[miktoxic]

@texasag1969 said:

Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?

This from Kevin Jones' article wrapping up minicamp:

• We quizzed a bunch of different Browns’ players on who they think is the fastest player on the roster – that fun video will be coming soon. The answers varied between six different people, a fantastic problem to have. The most common names: Andrew Hawkins, Anthony Armstrong, Buster Skrine, Johnny Manziel andJosh Gordon.

yeah saw that yesterday. think z posted it.

pretty impressive and yes it did surprise me. last year before his injury t. benjamin was the fastest by far.

[miktoxic]

@gftchris said:

Try this? (Testing to see if it works)

awesome. how does that site back reference a pic like that? i know there is a site if you upload a pic to it, it shows you where the image originated.

thanks!

[gftChris]

@miktoxic said:

awesome. how does that site back reference a pic like that? i know there is a site if you upload a pic to it, it shows you where the image originated.

thanks!

Using some pretty funky searching algorithms. I don't know the ins and outs but I'm guessing it involves:

identifying the main part of the image - roughly a string instrument?

analysing the internal breakdown of the object - the neck, the various details on the board - guitar

identifying other pictures of guitars and seeing which ones most closely resemble the uploaded image in terms of both colour and contour.

If you want to look in to it, I suggest starting here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_image_search

[nickers]

@miktoxic said:

dude. i've been trying to figure out for the longest what your avatar is. i know there's a strat in it so is someone playing it? eric clapton? it's so flippin small it's hard to see.

Its a Browns wallpaper I made few years ago with a squire strat I actually traded strait up for a real Fender mexican strat last fall. the pic is on Photbucket still I believe.

[miktoxic]

@nickers said:

Its a Browns wallpaper I made few years ago with a squire strat I actually traded strait up for a real Fender mexican strat last fall. the pic is on Photbucket still I believe.

good trade.

back in the late 70s i used to have a fender mustang. think it was a cheaper version of the squire. had to have a fender since my guitar hero david gilmour played one.

[nickers]

here ya go Mik..hope this helps...

[nickers]

And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.

[tml1138]

@al_browns_fan said:

Since no one else has answered this question, I'll try. By drafting him, San Diego has the rights to him for 6 years. I understand that the Padres said that they picked him because his athleticism was greater than anyone left on the board at that point. Theoretically, if football didn't work out for JM, he could play baseball for SD. He apparently was offered several bb scholarships for Division 1 schools but wanted to play football instead.

@ibleedbrown said:

I think they only get the right to him for a year. Signability is a big factor in the MLB draft since some drafted players don't sign. For example a high school player might get drafted, but may instead to go on to play college ball instead. So if he doesn't sign with the team that drafted him, his name goes back into the draft pool the next year.

You'll see this with younger players who may get drafted in the lower rounds, so they opt to play a year of college ball in the hopes that it raises their stock and nets them a higher draft pick the next year, which usually comes with mo' money.

IF a player signs, then that team holds the rights to him for a longer period of time, and l think that's where the six years comes in.

Thanks. It makes more sense it'd be only one year unless signed. So the potential of getting JM (at that point in the draft) was better than actually signing a player...wow.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@lbc-mike said:

did we need another JF thread? I just don't want everyone to be so disappointed because he is the savior of the browns. We have been here before. lets watch the fucking kid play before we make him the face of the team!!

I am a real fucking fan thank you very much.

Yeah, you sure proved it.

[Kosar_For_President]

@nickers said:

And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.

Anyone that says "axe" covers Joe Satriani songs.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@kosar_for_president said:

Anyone that says "axe" covers Joe Satriani songs.

As OJ Simpson said when his son asked him for some money, 'Go axe your mother'.

[Tour2ma]

So basically... new thread, same old shit...

Jaws visited camp for practice this week that was open to media. His basic comments included:

- Whitfield has worked wonders with JM's delivery; JM now has the kind of high-spin, tight spiral that can cut thru a December wind in CLE.

- Hoyer is light-years ahead of JM when it comes to understanding the offense and executing it; Hoyer will be the starter opening day.

In other words, JM is a rookie.

@d-bone said:

Johnny Backup

LOL... perfect! Only way to improve would have been to save that for WW's return...

[AL_BROWNS_FAN]

@tml1138 said:

Thanks. It makes more sense it'd be only one year unless signed. So the potential of getting JM (at that point in the draft) was better than actually signing a player...wow.

Yes, I believe ibleedbrown's answer was more complete than mine and I also believe that at that point in the draft the padres were indeed saying that JM potential was worth more than actually signing a player. I take that as a testament to his athleticism.

[Tour2ma]

@everlastingxxx said:

I agree that a year holding the clipboard would be better for him...but i think he is a little unique and there is a down side to it. The problem with Manziel sitting is that he freaks out when he has nothing to do. The guy is so competitive that when he has no outlet he starts to do dumb shit...ok dumber shit. Example: look at his red-shirted freshman year.

You mean the year he sat out before he won the Heisman?

@slowburn said:

If he has half the abilities touted by his supporters, camp will be a slam dunk for him and he'll be making his debut in Heinz cow pasture September 7. If he can help/lead the Browns to 2 wins by the time the squeelers come to town.......he will be Cleveland's new cock-of-the-walk.

I prefer sticking with Hoyer as long as he does not lose games, but fair enough.

@texasag1969 said:

Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?

Must be the Heisman mystique...

[The Gipper]

@al_browns_fan said:

13c. Archie Manning

13 e. Probably medical center - although it is in Hill Country so may be connected with tourism. I looked it up on Wikipedia and nothing listed as #1, just a number of employers.

Check on Archie.

[Tour2ma]

2. QB ranked # 14 with 244 career TDs? Hint: Played for the team that Steve McQueen was chasing in Bullit.

Hadl? Was thinking of him before, but did not think he played long enough... then again there was the Sid Gilman factor.

4. Only Johnny in Top 20 in career Ints. Hint: When he played during his recently inducted HOF career, he was usually packing. Sample? Only DB named Johnny that finally came to mind...

10. Name the one DL named John that is in the HOF. Hint: Played mostly for the team that Ragnar Lothbrok would have played for. Is Randall in the HOF?

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

2. QB ranked # 14 with 244 career TDs? Hint: Played for the team that Steve McQueen was chasing in Bullit.

Hadl? Was thinking of him before, but did not think he played long enough... then again there was the Sid Gilman factor.

Check on Hadl....and he did have a fairly long career

4. Only Johnny in Top 20 in career Ints. Hint: When he played during his recently inducted HOF career, he was usually packing. Sample? Only DB named Johnny that finally came to mind... NO

10. Name the one DL named John that is in the HOF. Hint: Played mostly for the team that Ragnar Lothbrok would have played for. Is Randall in the HOF? He is, check