Mangini on Wimbley
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense...add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense...add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
Who is the primadonna?
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@jadbf said:
And you can try to claim Cowher wasn't a great communicator, but I'd disagree and say he did very well and getting his team to see and play by his vision.Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
Who is the primadonna?
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I was againt the Mangini hire at first because I wanted them to hold out one of the high profile guys like Shanahan, but I have to say I like what I have seen and heard so far. I think Ryan was a stellar hire on the defense side of the ball and I think he transforms the raw talent (like Wimbley) into a top ten defensive unit. My hope is that they can revive the offensive side of the ball to make the Browns competitive in the division (it would be nice to have at least a .500 division record) If that happens we are in for a good season overall because the schedule outside the division is theoretically pretty easy. I am going to head back to Cleveland for the preseason game against Detroit so it will be nice to see how things translate to game situations. Good stuff in this thread!
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@jadbf said:
And you can try to claim Cowher wasn't a great communicator, but I'd disagree and say he did very well and getting his team to see and play by his vision.Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
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Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
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i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
That sort of thing is genius. It reminds me of something Woody Hayes would have done when it came to playing Michigan.
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Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
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Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
Really good post with a lot of good points!
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sisky sounds to me like u need a fix. hit me up lol
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