CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?
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Wonder if you have to use your own pick in the supplemental draft? Throw the 3rd we got from the Patriots out there, and see what happens with the Wilson injury.
I wouldn't expect much out of a 6th round flyer Z.
Well, he's our 6th corner.
The #4 pick overall is our starter.
Our other starter, Carrie, is under contract for four years at 8 million per year
Our third corner, EJ Gaines, was rated one of the top 15 corners in the league last year.
Our fourth corner Terrence Mitchell, is a Dorsey Boy who we signed to a three year contract and was getting reps with the #1s.
Our 5th corner is Briean Boddy Calhoun, a good little corner that everybody on here seems to love.
Then we drafted Thomas because he can play press.
So guys want to spend next year's third for a dude that won't see the field this year behind the top 4? So we can cut Calhoun?
Don't see it.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, he's our 6th corner.
The #4 pick overall is our starter.
Our other starter, Carrie, is under contract for four years at 8 million per year
Our third corner, EJ Gaines, was rated one of the top 15 corners in the league last year.
Our fourth corner Terrence Mitchell, is a Dorsey Boy who we signed to a three year contract and was getting reps with the #1s.
Our 5th corner is Briean Boddy Calhoun, a good little corner that everybody on here seems to love.
Then we drafted Thomas because he can play press.
So guys want to spend next year's third for a dude that won't see the field this year behind the top 4? So we can cut Calhoun?
Don't see it.
Zombo
Not saying we should Z. Just saying he's worth a low 3rd round pick. Sure, the defensive backfield looks a lot better "on paper" but that doesn't mean much this time of year.
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PFF analyzes Browns secondary - from 4/5, before the draft.
Not sure the final role of Mitchell. He has the honor of being the NFL's worst in yards allowed per coverage snap last season.
Positive detail about Peppers -- graded as the 25th best safety in coverage over the final 7 wks of 2017.
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If we want him, we will need to bid a 2nd rounder.
Nobody is going to bid a 1st rounder, and somebody is going to bid a 2nd rounder.
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If this guy is as good as many say, I have no issue with a 2nd round pick. You simply cannot have too many DB's, and the longer we cover, the more havoc Mr. Garrett can create. Gregg Williams had an interesting quote recently, and while I don't remember EXACTLY what he said, he basically inferred that Garrett was a step away from about 10 more sacks last year, and if we could've covered just a BIT better, there's no telling the impact. Now, I'm sure every pass rusher has about 30 instances where they were "one step away", but I agree with him. We need to cover better, and I think we will.
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If the powers that be in this FO think he is worth a 2d rounder.....who am I to object to their assessment?
So....what IS the scouting report on this guy? Would he be worth it....in the collective opinion?
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If the powers that be in this FO think he is worth a 2d rounder.....who am I to object to their assessment?
So....what IS the scouting report on this guy? Would he be worth it....in the collective opinion?
If the powers that be in this FO think he is worth a 2d rounder.....who am I to object to their assessment?
So....what IS the scouting report on this guy? Would he be worth it....in the collective opinion?
Dorsey possibly set-up position need nicely in next years draft too. https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2019/ Next seasons draft also reminds me of the 2013 draft when Heckert gave up a top 36 pick for Gordo in 2nd round.Only a addict verse a kid that can't pass school, is like 2 different ends of the earth. 2013 NFL draft went 3 OT's & 2 DE's in top 5. All are still legit in league. DT/OT/DE looks to be the top position path if were staying in top 10 next draft. DT we maybe ok with some playing depth.Taking LT Tackle over a guy like Nick Bosa could go 300 pages in a single topic of posts? But, we could mail that Las Vegas Raiders jersey early to a poster in Memphis..? Surely Dorsey has started comparing Beal's gametape to top 2nd rounders CB of the likes of CB DeAndre Baker(which walterfootball has Baker gone by #16) so let the next nfl-draft crab shoot begin
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updates https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018-supplemental-draft per Mike Garafolo/ Browns were 1 of 26 teams attending Adonis Alexander Virginia Tech pro day this past Wednesday. Adonis had 7 team visits also set-up this past Wednesday with 1 team visit set (maybe close to Blacksburg,VA.?) Sam Beal has not been confirmed by the NFL as of yet but should qualify..No confirmed draft date has been confirmed by NFL in null-null World Cup of foosball (my eyefull of acc ball on Adonis=Lead with the high 4th rounder, he's not worth browns high 3rd rounder)
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Supplemental Draft Date set for 7-11-18 a Wednesday. Not televised (yet nflnetwork?).1PM Gm's forward e-mail to NFL offices with Name & round bid.Dane Brugler confirms S.Beal,A.Alexander & B.Bryant are all in & confirmed by NFL. Sam Beal is having a Pro Day = this Thursday 6-28-18..Maybe your local 7/11's will celebrate this day with free? (cold beer/Slurpee/hotdog?)tell them Roger sent you!
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so doe's the bidding go in order as same as the draft order ?
All teams are slotted into 3 Bins A)non-playoff/minus 7 wins..Bin B.)non-playoff/plus 7 wins..Bin C)Playoff Teams...Now,I have also read W/L percentage from last season & official order will not be released to public. But we can do the Math.. Teams from Bin A gets precedence over Bin B...Bin B over Bin C..Browns are in Bin A, with O wins. 1st pick in previous draft, but am disputing a possible Lottery system with a guy at reddit is hearing about that may run a few more hours if not another day.(with Z name changing powers I'd re-name this chap Robert Craft II)
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
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so doe's the bidding go in order as same as the draft order ?
All teams are slotted into 3 Bins A)non-playoff/minus 7 wins..Bin B.)non-playoff/plus 7 wins..Bin C)Playoff Teams...Now,I have also read W/L percentage from last season & official order will not be released to public. But we can do the Math.. Teams from Bin A gets precedence over Bin B...Bin B over Bin C..Browns are in Bin A, with O wins. 1st pick in previous draft, but am disputing a possible Lottery system with a guy at reddit is hearing about that may run a few more hours if not another day.(with Z name changing powers I'd re-name this chap Robert Craft II)
I have also read W/L percentage from last season & official order will not be released to public.
Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
this sounds so simple https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/NFL-Supplemental-Draft-set-for-July-11-119333295/ but am telling ya, till the leauge puts a stamp on it,these writers have no clue how it actually works..tick tock..We got a date & time from leauge..now we wait to make up some rules.#nfl
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
this sounds so simple https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/NFL-Supplemental-Draft-set-for-July-11-119333295/ but am telling ya, till the leauge puts a stamp on it,these writers have no clue how it actually works..tick tock..We got a date & time from leauge..now we wait to make up some rules.#nfl
but am telling ya, till the leauge puts a stamp on it,these writers have no clue how it actually works
I don't know how it actually works so there's no way that I can doubt you. All I can say is that it 'should' not be subjective. It should follow last April's draft order. If it's subjective, well, that leaves the door open to palm greasing.
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updates https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018-supplemental-draft per Mike Garafolo/ Browns were 1 of 26 teams attending Adonis Alexander Virginia Tech pro day this past Wednesday. Adonis had 7 team visits also set-up this past Wednesday with 1 team visit set (maybe close to Blacksburg,VA.?) Sam Beal has not been confirmed by the NFL as of yet but should qualify..No confirmed draft date has been confirmed by NFL in null-null World Cup of foosball (my eyefull of acc ball on Adonis=Lead with the high 4th rounder, he's not worth browns high 3rd rounder)
updates https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018-supplemental-draft
Following this site ^^ gives updates very well..add LB Bright Ugwoegbu from Oregon State into the draft also
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The picks are the same as was the regular draft. There is no secret here.
The draft itself is more like a auction. If a team likes a player, they make a bid via fax or text to the league office. It's not like everybody is gathered in some room. If we like Beal, we bid a selection. Say we offer a 2nd rounder for him, we get him as long as no other team offers a 1st. If other teams offer a 2nd, we get him because we drafted first in the regular draft.
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
From what has been explained it could be a bit like the NBA draft....a lottery system.
Lets put things this way, for what its worth (which is nothing really): the Browns have done reasonably well when taking players in the supplemental draft:
Bernie Kosar
Josh Gordon
And those players taken from the USFL:
Misc Passing Rushing Receiving Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2012 2 Josh Gordon 1 WR 2017 1 1 2 20 40 0 1 0 0 0 5 88 0 179 3089 15 Utah Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 1985 1 Bernie Kosar 1 QB 1996 0 1 7 67 126 1994 3365 23301 124 87 180 265 5 3 -5 0 Miami (FL) Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 1984 1 Kevin Mack 11 RB 1993 0 2 6 46 99 1291 5123 46 197 1602 8 Clemson 1984 1 Mike Johnson 18 LB 1995 0 2 8 61 144 13 14.5 Virginia Tech 1984 2 Gerald McNeil 44 WR 1990 0 1 0 6 76 4 61 0 29 380 2 Baylor 1984 2 Tommy Robison 50 LB 1989 0 0 0 1 12 Texas A&M 1984 3 Doug West 71 LB 0 0 0 UCLA 1984 3 John Bon -
Actually there have only been 43 NFL supplimental draft picks total since it's inception in 1977 only 12 this century. And yes the Artful dodger Modell and the BROWNS did alright snookering out Bernie Kosar!
2002 Milford Brown G 6th Houston Texans Florida State He had used up his five-year competition eligibility.[18] 2003 Tony Hollings RB 2nd Houston Texans Georgia Tech He was academically ineligible for the 2003 college season.[19] 2005 Manuel Wright DT 5th Miami Dolphins USC Chose entering the draft over not playing college football while trying to regain his academic eligibility.[20] 2006 Ahmad Brooks†[21] LB 3rd Cincinnati Bengals Virginia He was dismissed from his college team.[22] 2007 Paul Oliver S 4th San Diego Chargers Georgia He left college because of academic problems.[23] 2007 Jared Gaither[23] OT 5th Baltimore Ravens Maryland He was declared academically ineligible in college.[24] 2009 Jeremy Jarmon DE 3rd Washington Redskins Kentucky Suspended over failed drug test.[25] 2010 Harvey Unga[26] FB 7th Chicago Bears BYU Expelled for disciplinary reasons.[26] 2010 Josh Brent[26] NT 7th Dallas Cowboys Illinois He was "... reportedly academically ineligible for the 2010 [college] season."[27] 2011 Terrelle Pryor QB 3rd Oakland Raiders Ohio State Suspended as part of NCAA investigation into improper benefits.[28] 2012 Josh Gordon† WR 2nd Cleveland Browns Baylor Dismissed for failed marijuana test.[29] 2015 Isaiah Battle OT 5th St. Louis Rams Clemson Had "family matters to attend", as well as off-field issues.[30 -
The picks are the same as was the regular draft. There is no secret here.
The draft itself is more like a auction. If a team likes a player, they make a bid via fax or text to the league office. It's not like everybody is gathered in some room. If we like Beal, we bid a selection. Say we offer a 2nd rounder for him, we get him as long as no other team offers a 1st. If other teams offer a 2nd, we get him because we drafted first in the regular draft.
The picks are the same as was the regular draft. There is no secret here.
The draft itself is more like a auction. If a team likes a player, they make a bid via fax or text to the league office. It's not like everybody is gathered in some room. If we like Beal, we bid a selection. Say we offer a 2nd rounder for him, we get him as long as no other team offers a 1st. If other teams offer a 2nd, we get him because we drafted first in the regular draft.
thanks. The round bidding to win was never my concern. But the draft order matters. More than likely breaking ties. Some sites adding word "lottery" got my attention, of how can we once again get screwed..the smoke & mirrors are starting to clear https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/6/25/17502264/supplemental-draft-101 have they always used brackets before?
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