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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #39

    All 32 teams including John Dorsey attended Sam Beal pro day. Most his numbers went well, except for a weight loss from spring weighing 187 lbs., weighing in today at 178 lbs./ Height = 6' 7/8"/ 40 times=4.47 & 4.55/ vert.=37"/broad=10' 6"/short shuttle=4.09/3-cone=7.11.. <The same date he may get drafted? but not the time Beal was looking for. Beal played WR when arrived at W.Michigan in 2015.Beal switched to CB the following season..Maybe his draft stock slightly drops from today? Maybe the top 3rd rounder just may do it?  Comparable combine 6 ft. DB numbers? Minkah Fitzpatrick & Isaiah Oliver ran 4.46/4.50. but both go 204/201 lbs. and can tackle. Beal is not praised for his open field tackling.. being under weight won't help..

  • All 32 teams including John Dorsey attended Sam Beal pro day. Most his numbers went well, except for a weight loss from spring weighing 187 lbs., weighing in today at 178 lbs./ Height = 6' 7/8"/ 40 times=4.47 & 4.55/ vert.=37"/broad=10' 6"/short shuttle=4.09/3-cone=7.11.. <The same date he may get drafted? but not the time Beal was looking for. Beal played WR when arrived at W.Michigan in 2015.Beal switched to CB the following season..Maybe his draft stock slightly drops from today? Maybe the top 3rd rounder just may do it?  Comparable combine 6 ft. DB numbers? Minkah Fitzpatrick & Isaiah Oliver ran 4.46/4.50. but both go 204/201 lbs. and can tackle. Beal is not praised for his open field tackling.. being under weight won't help..

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    the top 3rd rounder just may do it?

    Yes.  I really don't want to go into next year's draft without a 2nd round pick.

  • @gumby73 said:

    the top 3rd rounder just may do it?

    Yes.  I really don't want to go into next year's draft without a 2nd round pick.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #41

    @orion said:

    Yes.  I really don't want to go into next year's draft without a 2nd round pick.

    Yeah, I could see us bid top of the third and if no one bids second round , we get him.

    Dorsey probably feels our draft picks are mid rounders next year, while we can get him at the top of the round this year.

    But I'm not spending a second on this kid.

    I'm surprised T.J. Carrie isn't getting more love from Browns fans as the starter opposite Ward.

    6 foot tall, starting experience, Ohio University, good speed, prime of his career ... Nice four year contract covers his peak years.

    I love the E.J. Gaines signing too. Don't be surprised if they extend his one year deal during the season if they like what they see and they want to wrap up a Ward-Carrie-Gaines trio for three or four years. Or if you draft this guy, he's potentially the third corner next year and you let Gaines walk.

    I think we have a real strong corner room right now, certainly no time to hit the panic button, or the reach button.

    Zombo

  • @orion said:

    Yes.  I really don't want to go into next year's draft without a 2nd round pick.

    Yeah, I could see us bid top of the third and if no one bids second round , we get him.

    Dorsey probably feels our draft picks are mid rounders next year, while we can get him at the top of the round this year.

    But I'm not spending a second on this kid.

    I'm surprised T.J. Carrie isn't getting more love from Browns fans as the starter opposite Ward.

    6 foot tall, starting experience, Ohio University, good speed, prime of his career ... Nice four year contract covers his peak years.

    I love the E.J. Gaines signing too. Don't be surprised if they extend his one year deal during the season if they like what they see and they want to wrap up a Ward-Carrie-Gaines trio for three or four years. Or if you draft this guy, he's potentially the third corner next year and you let Gaines walk.

    I think we have a real strong corner room right now, certainly no time to hit the panic button, or the reach button.

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #42

    Zombo said:

    Yeah, I could see us bid top of the third and if no one bids second round , we get him.

    Dorsey probably feels our draft picks are mid rounders next year, while we can get him at the top of the round this year.

    But I'm not spending a second on this kid.

    I'm surprised T.J. Carrie isn't getting more love from Browns fans as the starter opposite Ward.

    6 foot tall, starting experience, Ohio University, good speed, prime of his career ... Nice four year contract covers his peak years.

    I love the E.J. Gaines signing too. Don't be surprised if they extend his one year deal during the season if they like what they see and they want to wrap up a Ward-Carrie-Gaines trio for three or four years. Or if you draft this guy, he's potentially the third corner next year and you let Gaines walk.

    I think we have a real strong corner room right now, certainly no time to hit the panic button, or the reach button.

    Zombo

    We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform  really.  So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity.  However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come. 

    At least, that is the way I feel.  Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.

  • Zombo said:

    Yeah, I could see us bid top of the third and if no one bids second round , we get him.

    Dorsey probably feels our draft picks are mid rounders next year, while we can get him at the top of the round this year.

    But I'm not spending a second on this kid.

    I'm surprised T.J. Carrie isn't getting more love from Browns fans as the starter opposite Ward.

    6 foot tall, starting experience, Ohio University, good speed, prime of his career ... Nice four year contract covers his peak years.

    I love the E.J. Gaines signing too. Don't be surprised if they extend his one year deal during the season if they like what they see and they want to wrap up a Ward-Carrie-Gaines trio for three or four years. Or if you draft this guy, he's potentially the third corner next year and you let Gaines walk.

    I think we have a real strong corner room right now, certainly no time to hit the panic button, or the reach button.

    Zombo

    We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform  really.  So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity.  However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come. 

    At least, that is the way I feel.  Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform  really.  So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity.  However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come. 

    At least, that is the way I feel.  Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.

    I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.

    Zombo

  • @the-gipper said:

    We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform  really.  So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity.  However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come. 

    At least, that is the way I feel.  Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.

    I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo said:

    I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.

    Zombo

    Well, you know how it is with our guys, we either love em or hate em. We got to basically hate the likes of Kenny Britt and DeShone Kizer.  Hopefully we will get to love the likes of TT, Landry, Hyde, and these DBs.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    The last of the DB's drew Browns and 13 other clubs to his pro day. FS Brandon Bryant Miss.St.. Draft scout ranks Bryant the #4 of 91 at FS position. Also the fastest of the bunch.Bryant was rumored to be just as fast as John Ross clocking 4.22/40.Bryant has hit 4.24 in past...Here's B.Bryant Pro Day numbers //5'11"//200 lbs.//arms 32 7/8"//hands 9 3/8"//40 times=4.45 & 4.52//s.shuttle=4.23//3 cone=7.26 &7.52//vert=34"//broad=10'3"//  Round Range on FS B.Bryant reads from 5th to 7th round due to dui in 17. Browns known to have interest with not much behind D.Randall on depth chart

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #46

    9 dayes away.. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Gil-Brandt-pegs-Bills-Browns-as-suitors-for-Sam-Beal-119505412/   I've seen fire & I've seen rain too. And it would not surprise me at all if Belicheck don't throw the late 2nd rounder? Pats still need CB help.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #47

    My feeling is if the guy is valued as a first round selection, we have to bid a 2nd rounder.

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
    #48

    We will see today if we pick this kid up 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    That NFL Supplemental draft takes place at 1 PM.    It is said that the announcement of the results will come "at the end of the business day".  So probably nothing revealed until this evening.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000938341/article/nfl-supplemental-draft-to-take-place-on-july-11

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    Giants tabbed him with a 3rd

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

    HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.

  • Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

    HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

    HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of decades.

    Fixed it for all of us. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    I have also read W/L percentage from last season & official order will not be released to public.

    Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........

    Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick   

  • Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

    HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.

    U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
    #55

    @orion said:

    Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

    Giants did, and because they drafted one selection before us in the 3rd round.... the ONLY way we would have snagged him is with a second-round pick, which he wasn't worth.

  • @orion said:

    Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........

    Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick   

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick   

    Yeah, after reading the article, saw how the Giants jumped us in the supplemental draft. Didn't know they reshuffled the order. Going on record, the Browns should have had the first pick in each round. 

  • @orion said:

    Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........

    Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick   

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @gumby73 said:

    Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery..

    ...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st.  - Ya know what would be better?  Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick.  There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft.  They could sell tickets...and beer...

  • The picks are the same as was the regular draft.  There is no secret here.

    The draft itself is more like a auction.  If a team likes a player, they make a bid via fax or text to the league office.  It's not like everybody is gathered in some room. If we like Beal, we bid a selection.  Say we offer a 2nd rounder for him, we get him as long as no other team offers a 1st.  If other teams offer a 2nd, we get him because we drafted first in the regular draft.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    The picks are the same as was the regular draft.  There is no secret here.

    I guess you weren't let in on the secret......