CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?
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Zombo said:
Yeah, I could see us bid top of the third and if no one bids second round , we get him.
Dorsey probably feels our draft picks are mid rounders next year, while we can get him at the top of the round this year.
But I'm not spending a second on this kid.
I'm surprised T.J. Carrie isn't getting more love from Browns fans as the starter opposite Ward.
6 foot tall, starting experience, Ohio University, good speed, prime of his career ... Nice four year contract covers his peak years.
I love the E.J. Gaines signing too. Don't be surprised if they extend his one year deal during the season if they like what they see and they want to wrap up a Ward-Carrie-Gaines trio for three or four years. Or if you draft this guy, he's potentially the third corner next year and you let Gaines walk.
I think we have a real strong corner room right now, certainly no time to hit the panic button, or the reach button.
Zombo
We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform really. So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity. However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come.
At least, that is the way I feel. Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.
We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform really. So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity. However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come.
At least, that is the way I feel. Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.
I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.
Zombo
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We have not see Carrie or Gaines play in a Browns uniform really. So, until they don the Brown and Orange and we see them out there, there is likely little enthusiasm for them...just mild curiosity. However, once they do hit the field and it appears that they are doing good things, the love will come.
At least, that is the way I feel. Same for basically all of our FA acquisitions.
I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I get it. But these guys are proven in the league and chose to play in Cleveland ... unlike draft picks.
Zombo
Well, you know how it is with our guys, we either love em or hate em. We got to basically hate the likes of Kenny Britt and DeShone Kizer. Hopefully we will get to love the likes of TT, Landry, Hyde, and these DBs.
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The last of the DB's drew Browns and 13 other clubs to his pro day. FS Brandon Bryant Miss.St.. Draft scout ranks Bryant the #4 of 91 at FS position. Also the fastest of the bunch.Bryant was rumored to be just as fast as John Ross clocking 4.22/40.Bryant has hit 4.24 in past...Here's B.Bryant Pro Day numbers //5'11"//200 lbs.//arms 32 7/8"//hands 9 3/8"//40 times=4.45 & 4.52//s.shuttle=4.23//3 cone=7.26 &7.52//vert=34"//broad=10'3"// Round Range on FS B.Bryant reads from 5th to 7th round due to dui in 17. Browns known to have interest with not much behind D.Randall on depth chart
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9 dayes away.. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Gil-Brandt-pegs-Bills-Browns-as-suitors-for-Sam-Beal-119505412/ I've seen fire & I've seen rain too. And it would not surprise me at all if Belicheck don't throw the late 2nd rounder? Pats still need CB help.
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My feeling is if the guy is valued as a first round selection, we have to bid a 2nd rounder.
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We will see today if we pick this kid up
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That NFL Supplemental draft takes place at 1 PM. It is said that the announcement of the results will come "at the end of the business day". So probably nothing revealed until this evening.
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Giants tabbed him with a 3rd
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Only two players got picked, Beal, and another DB by the Redskins:
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Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.
HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.
HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver... https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.
HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver... https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick
Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver... https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick
Yeah, after reading the article, saw how the Giants jumped us in the supplemental draft. Didn't know they reshuffled the order. Going on record, the Browns should have had the first pick in each round.
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Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........
Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver... https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick
Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery..
...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st. - Ya know what would be better? Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick. There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft. They could sell tickets...and beer...
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
The picks are the same as was the regular draft. There is no secret here.
The draft itself is more like a auction. If a team likes a player, they make a bid via fax or text to the league office. It's not like everybody is gathered in some room. If we like Beal, we bid a selection. Say we offer a 2nd rounder for him, we get him as long as no other team offers a 1st. If other teams offer a 2nd, we get him because we drafted first in the regular draft.
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Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery..
...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st. - Ya know what would be better? Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick. There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft. They could sell tickets...and beer...
...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st. - Ya know what would be better? Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick. There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft. They could sell tickets...and beer...
I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups
1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less
2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more
3) playoff teams
Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round. It is NOT like the NBA draft where the Browns would have had the most names in hat, each team had one equally. We got drawn 4th based on that system, and the the Giants were given 2nd and therefore got the guy. Hypothetically, we could have been 11th in this system very easily.
Now if you wanna argue that it was rigged somehow (a la NBA draft), well who knows. There are some pretty credible rumors we had the 3rd round grade on him so we just missed out,
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4.61 40 as a CB? Underweight for his height?
Dodged a wasted pick since it meant 2nd round to get him.
Rather hang onto that.
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...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st. - Ya know what would be better? Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick. There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft. They could sell tickets...and beer...
I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups
1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less
2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more
3) playoff teams
Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round. It is NOT like the NBA draft where the Browns would have had the most names in hat, each team had one equally. We got drawn 4th based on that system, and the the Giants were given 2nd and therefore got the guy. Hypothetically, we could have been 11th in this system very easily.
Now if you wanna argue that it was rigged somehow (a la NBA draft), well who knows. There are some pretty credible rumors we had the 3rd round grade on him so we just missed out,
I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups
1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less
2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more
3) playoff teams
Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round.
A) I get the grouping, as a attempt to keep league competitive. B.)how bout each team in group gets 1 paper in hat per loss?
4.61 40 as a CB? Underweight for his height?
Dodged a wasted pick since it meant 2nd round to get him.
Rather hang onto that
Me too. Wonder when the media will get to how many teams bid a 3rd? that's his worth imo. Started as a WR, with not much experience at CB position.Watched Beal against Darnold, and the normal showed up.Beals can press cover,but when he loses, A) his team gives up a bunch of points B.) Beals stats are not great but his 1 on 1 coverage numbers are. Tough to guess on his next step up level..If BB Calhoun sticks as 4th/5th CB? we missed on nothing here imo..
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I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups
1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less
2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more
3) playoff teams
Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round.
A) I get the grouping, as a attempt to keep league competitive. B.)how bout each team in group gets 1 paper in hat per loss?
4.61 40 as a CB? Underweight for his height?
Dodged a wasted pick since it meant 2nd round to get him.
Rather hang onto that
Me too. Wonder when the media will get to how many teams bid a 3rd? that's his worth imo. Started as a WR, with not much experience at CB position.Watched Beal against Darnold, and the normal showed up.Beals can press cover,but when he loses, A) his team gives up a bunch of points B.) Beals stats are not great but his 1 on 1 coverage numbers are. Tough to guess on his next step up level..If BB Calhoun sticks as 4th/5th CB? we missed on nothing here imo..
A) I get the grouping, as a attempt to keep league competitive. B.)how bout each team in group gets 1 paper in hat per loss?
Sure, I mean what you're describing is essentially how the NBA draft lottery goes about it. Who knows why they don't do it that way, I've looked for a reason and haven't found much.
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