Am I the only one who...
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I was just on the Browns FB page..
Some guy commented on there saying that we should still commit to Tyrod being our starter the rest of the way....
Are people really that dumb?!
Are people really that dumb?!
Probably a Steeler bot...
... or some 400# guy in his basement.
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baker wont get killed because defenses know he can make those throws tyrod cant. They blitzed tyrod and dared him to make those ore snap reads. Ill fully admit i didnt think baker was "this" ready. And i also didnt realuze just how much of the O's woes was on tyrod.
so now that teams are gonna start seeing tape on baker, its up to haley to keep our offense infront of those weekly adjustments
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baker wont get killed because defenses know he can make those throws tyrod cant. They blitzed tyrod and dared him to make those ore snap reads. Ill fully admit i didnt think baker was "this" ready. And i also didnt realuze just how much of the O's woes was on tyrod.
so now that teams are gonna start seeing tape on baker, its up to haley to keep our offense infront of those weekly adjustments
baker wont get killed because defenses know he can make those throws tyrod cant. They blitzed tyrod and dared him to make those ore snap reads. Ill fully admit i didnt think baker was "this" ready. And i also didnt realuze just how much of the O's woes was on tyrod.
so now that teams are gonna start seeing tape on baker, its up to haley to keep our offense infront of those weekly adjustments
Not sure how you adjust to decisiveness. You can disguise and bait... just as Jets did on Baker's near pick in the endzone, but that was the only throw he made into the unknown.
As for getting hurt... Baker's not fast, but he's nifty and aware. We saw that last nite. And while not tall, he's pretty stout. I think it was Week 1 when I commented on his leg muscle development as he ran out of the tunnel.
And when he runs he gets what he can and then gets out of harms way... or at least he has so far. Certainly more than TT did in Weeks 1 and 2...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
baker wont get killed because defenses know he can make those throws tyrod cant. They blitzed tyrod and dared him to make those ore snap reads. Ill fully admit i didnt think baker was "this" ready. And i also didnt realuze just how much of the O's woes was on tyrod.
so now that teams are gonna start seeing tape on baker, its up to haley to keep our offense infront of those weekly adjustments
Not sure how you adjust to decisiveness. You can disguise and bait... just as Jets did on Baker's near pick in the endzone, but that was the only throw he made into the unknown.
As for getting hurt... Baker's not fast, but he's nifty and aware. We saw that last nite. And while not tall, he's pretty stout. I think it was Week 1 when I commented on his leg muscle development as he ran out of the tunnel.
And when he runs he gets what he can and then gets out of harms way... or at least he has so far. Certainly more than TT did in Weeks 1 and 2...
Not sure how you adjust to decisiveness. You can disguise and bait... just as Jets did on Baker's near pick in the endzone, but that was the only throw he made into the unknown.
It can be done, much like Williams did to Brees last week. But I would much rather take my chances with a guy who reads defenses and knows where they're going Vs. a guy who's sitting on a receiver to "get open". Baker reads the defense and knows where they are going...receivers run routes but go to the open area in the defense...TT waits for the receivers get open in those spots...Baker knows when/where the receiver is going to go and has it there. That's how it's supposed to be done.
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The football gods were on our side last night..
We got some lucky bounces, and we actually FINISHED!
The defense of the past, on that 4th down conversion by the Jets, would have laid down, and given up a 60 yard screen pass to the house..
But everyone stepped up that second half, and the way they attacked the football was outstanding..
A true Far-cry from the previous 2,3 seasons..The football gods were on our side last night..
We got some lucky bounces, and we actually FINISHED!
The defense of the past, on that 4th down conversion by the Jets, would have laid down, and given up a 60 yard screen pass to the house..
But everyone stepped up that second half, and the way they attacked the football was outstanding..
A true Far-cry from the previous 2,3 seasons..Yes, usually the lucky bounces go against the Browns.
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Football is going to be fun again. Wow, remember that?
Ever so vaguely. Time to dig up old memories.
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Honestly its pretty sad to see some question something when they dont understand how it could occur.
The impact of a hit is not how you get a concussion. In fact, A LOT of these big hits you see do not conclude in one.
Dont like a player, sure everyone has those. But dont try to impugn his character and call him a quitter because it didnt "look" bad and you dont know how they occur
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1) ... had the impression that TT "laid down"?
His helmet hit to the ground did not seem that concussive. May have built on the earlier (uncalled) forearm he took as he was in mid-slide, but it just did not seem that severe.
I wondered at the time if he heard the proverbial "footsteps". For damn sure he heard the crowd.
2) ... remembers that we were very fortunate to recover two of our own fumbles: Higgins recovery of Duke's sideline one and Bito of Baker's strip sacking late in the 1st-half?
Either could have changed the game outcome into just another loss. Both going the Jets' way would have changed the outcome.
So let's not get too Socky...
... but it was fun seeing Bito rumble even if it was placed at the spot of the recovery. His energy was an early example of how Baker ignited this team.
More later...
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I don’t know about Tyrod “laying down”, but his play thus far has not been the kind of play you would think you’d see from a franchise QB who knows he’s a franchise QB and therefore is aware that he needs to be available for at least 16 games. I’m not sure wreckless is the right word, but maybe excessively balls out.
I do like Tyrod. He had a shot at making this his team but it was long odds with getting chemistry down with new players and the playbook and execution and what not. Still, definitely give him credit for getting things started off on a good note with organizing pre-OTA workouts and doing and saying the right things.
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1) ... had the impression that TT "laid down"?
His helmet hit to the ground did not seem that concussive. May have built on the earlier (uncalled) forearm he took as he was in mid-slide, but it just did not seem that severe.
I wondered at the time if he heard the proverbial "footsteps". For damn sure he heard the crowd.
2) ... remembers that we were very fortunate to recover two of our own fumbles: Higgins recovery of Duke's sideline one and Bito of Baker's strip sacking late in the 1st-half?
Either could have changed the game outcome into just another loss. Both going the Jets' way would have changed the outcome.
So let's not get too Socky...
... but it was fun seeing Bito rumble even if it was placed at the spot of the recovery. His energy was an early example of how Baker ignited this team.
More later...
1) ... had the impression that TT "laid down"?
His helmet hit to the ground did not seem that concussive. May have built on the earlier (uncalled) forearm he took as he was in mid-slide, but it just did not seem that severe.
I wondered at the time if he heard the proverbial "footsteps". For damn sure he heard the crowd.
well if that's the case one might have to assume that the NFL and Big Time wrestling were one and the same. I heard someone else mention they thought the coaching staff told him to play dead. It certainly would suck if it was all pre-determined.
2) ... remembers that we were very fortunate to recover two of our own fumbles: Higgins recovery of Duke's sideline one and Bito of Baker's strip sacking late in the 1st-half?
Either could have changed the game outcome into just another loss. Both going the Jets' way would have changed the outcome.
So let's not get too Socky...
any winning effort in football requires a little bit of luck. Just as in a losing effort like the last two weeks.
... but it was fun seeing Bito rumble even if it was placed at the spot of the recovery. His energy was an early example of how Baker ignited this team.
that's true.
More later...
WSS
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I admit that crossed my mind too, but only for a millisecond..... just not something I'm willing to believe about Tyrod - as like with Hue, I really think he's a good dude in general life and don't want to believe he would quit.
Have you ever milked an "illness" to avoid going into work?
I know I have... and I did not quit... I retired...
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Everytime he hit the ground I was literally screaming "Stay down idiot!"
I don't want to see any Cleveland Brown hurt but I knew the offense was better than Tyrod Taylor is capable of.
If he took a dive he was doing the right thing for the team.
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I admit that crossed my mind too, but only for a millisecond..... just not something I'm willing to believe about Tyrod - as like with Hue, I really think he's a good dude in general life and don't want to believe he would quit.
Have you ever milked an "illness" to avoid going into work?
I know I have... and I did not quit... I retired...
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Last night brought back memories to a Sunday night game years ago, when Tim Couch went down with a concussion and our fans cheered when he left and Kelly Holcomb entered the game. For some reason the Browns allowed Couch to be interviewed after the game, which resulted in him getting emotional about the situation.
For all intents and purposes, Couch's days of being the starting QB for the Browns were numbered after that night. Just like Taylor's.
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Honestly its pretty sad to see some question something when they dont understand how it could occur.
The impact of a hit is not how you get a concussion. In fact, A LOT of these big hits you see do not conclude in one.
Dont like a player, sure everyone has those. But dont try to impugn his character and call him a quitter because it didnt "look" bad and you dont know how they occur
Honestly its pretty sad to see some question something when they dont understand how it could occur.
The impact of a hit is not how you get a concussion. In fact, A LOT of these big hits you see do not conclude in one.
Dont like a player, sure everyone has those. But dont try to impugn his character and call him a quitter because it didnt "look" bad and you dont know how they occur
Well... please educate me then.
But it's going to take more than the above, gumby-esque post
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Honestly its pretty sad to see some question something when they dont understand how it could occur.
The impact of a hit is not how you get a concussion. In fact, A LOT of these big hits you see do not conclude in one.
Dont like a player, sure everyone has those. But dont try to impugn his character and call him a quitter because it didnt "look" bad and you dont know how they occur
Well... please educate me then.
But it's going to take more than the above, gumby-esque post
Well... please educate me then.
But it's going to take more than the above, gumby-esque post
Hay! i did nuthing! OL inside zone blocking scheme. did ya ?? Loved the patience of our backs now seeing it. Who have ya seen upfront making a difference since week 1?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
First words out of my mouth “he’s not hurt, he’s embarrassed”
More like Peter McNeely who went down for the count when Mike Tyson threw a punch and missed
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First words out of my mouth “he’s not hurt, he’s embarrassed”
More like Peter McNeely who went down for the count when Mike Tyson threw a punch and missed
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Sonny Liston and the phantom punch.
I thought that and started to respond until I saw yours. Exactly.
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