A Case For Hue
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There is no chance a HC is letting a call be made at that stage without any input. Hard Knocks told us quite clearly that Hue makes all the calls.
There is no chance a HC is letting a call be made at that stage without any input. Hard Knocks told us quite clearly that Hue makes all the calls.
With all due respect to your accurate post, I made the point LONG, LONG, LONG ago that the OC and Dc are nothing more than coffee fetchers. I was arguing with Hoorta the Hoola Hoop, and frilly Pants FLugels for years that only an idiot would believe that ANY head coach is going to just sit back and let assistants determine his fortune and reputation.
It isn't just Hue, though. EVERY HEAD COACH calls the shots. It can be no other way. If reality was as Hoola Hoop and Frilly think it is, why The Fukck would a team even need a head coach? Why pay a HC $ millions if the coordinators are calling the shots? Flugel maintained that Crennell was the genius behind Belichik and Sewage the genius behind Ozzie..........Fukcking idiots
He is how it works. The OC creates a playbook. The HC tells him what type of offense he is allowed to run, he removes the plays from the playbook he doesn't want and he tells the OC what options of plays he has to call given various situations. The OC doesn't waiver, create, invent or come up with clever tricks on the spot. He answers to the HC.
As far as Hue's job goes? As goes Baker, so too will go Hue.
The QB makes the OL, the receivers, the defense, AND the HC.
50% of NFL playbooks consist of Paul brown plays. The remaining 50% are plays that all the assistants who change teams constantly shared with all 32 teams. There is not much innovation and novelty in any NFL playbook. The daring, risk and boldness in which plays are called has everything to do with the QB, and how much the HC tursts the QB to rip it up.
Without Favre Holmgren was the Quaker Oats spokesman. WIthout Bradshaw, Noll was pedestrian. Hue got lucky. Baker saved the Browns and he saved Hue. Boom
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There is no chance a HC is letting a call be made at that stage without any input. Hard Knocks told us quite clearly that Hue makes all the calls.
With all due respect to your accurate post, I made the point LONG, LONG, LONG ago that the OC and Dc are nothing more than coffee fetchers. I was arguing with Hoorta the Hoola Hoop, and frilly Pants FLugels for years that only an idiot would believe that ANY head coach is going to just sit back and let assistants determine his fortune and reputation.
It isn't just Hue, though. EVERY HEAD COACH calls the shots. It can be no other way. If reality was as Hoola Hoop and Frilly think it is, why The Fukck would a team even need a head coach? Why pay a HC $ millions if the coordinators are calling the shots? Flugel maintained that Crennell was the genius behind Belichik and Sewage the genius behind Ozzie..........Fukcking idiots
He is how it works. The OC creates a playbook. The HC tells him what type of offense he is allowed to run, he removes the plays from the playbook he doesn't want and he tells the OC what options of plays he has to call given various situations. The OC doesn't waiver, create, invent or come up with clever tricks on the spot. He answers to the HC.
As far as Hue's job goes? As goes Baker, so too will go Hue.
The QB makes the OL, the receivers, the defense, AND the HC.
50% of NFL playbooks consist of Paul brown plays. The remaining 50% are plays that all the assistants who change teams constantly shared with all 32 teams. There is not much innovation and novelty in any NFL playbook. The daring, risk and boldness in which plays are called has everything to do with the QB, and how much the HC tursts the QB to rip it up.
Without Favre Holmgren was the Quaker Oats spokesman. WIthout Bradshaw, Noll was pedestrian. Hue got lucky. Baker saved the Browns and he saved Hue. Boom
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It's not as if Hue never made a WTF call in the past two seasons.
He might have liked the reverse call... Hell... It's even possible that Hue made the call.
Which is exactly backwards from the traditional "common wisdom" which says that go for the win on the road and play for OT at home.
Yeah Tour- going for it (I believe it was 4th and five) near midfield could easily have blown up in his face. the Ravens have one of the best long range kickers in the league...
Yeah Tour- going for it (I believe it was 4th and five) near midfield could easily have blown up in his face. the Ravens have one of the best long range kickers in the league...
He didn't want another tie, he wanted to go down swinging not be in a lose or tie situation if we punted. He took a swing. And then our defense had a three and out for all times, and the rest was history. Just enjoying being on top of one of these games for once.
Zombo
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Yeah Tour- going for it (I believe it was 4th and five) near midfield could easily have blown up in his face. the Ravens have one of the best long range kickers in the league...
He didn't want another tie, he wanted to go down swinging not be in a lose or tie situation if we punted. He took a swing. And then our defense had a three and out for all times, and the rest was history. Just enjoying being on top of one of these games for once.
Zombo
Zombo said:
He didn't want another tie, he wanted to go down swinging not be in a lose or tie situation if we punted. He took a swing. And then our defense had a three and out for all times, and the rest was history. Just enjoying being on top of one of these games for once.
Zombo
As the leading naysayer, I can tell you, your enjoyment is not going to end at 2-2-1. Baker makes this team the schidt. The Chargers will get punked.
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Zombo said:
He didn't want another tie, he wanted to go down swinging not be in a lose or tie situation if we punted. He took a swing. And then our defense had a three and out for all times, and the rest was history. Just enjoying being on top of one of these games for once.
Zombo
As the leading naysayer, I can tell you, your enjoyment is not going to end at 2-2-1. Baker makes this team the schidt. The Chargers will get punked.
Baker makes this team the schidt. The Chargers will get punked.
How are the Giants doin' with that RB you wanted us to draft instead of Baker?
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Pretty good. They need a QB
Since when is 1-5 Pretty Good?
We're only contending in football games now because Dorsey did not do what you wanted us to do. (take Barkley and 'accept' whichever QB fell to #4 - And I kept saying NO, take the best QB and don't let anyone else tell you which one you can have)
As you said, Hue goes as Baker goes. And the Browns go as Baker goes. (the Giants don't Go as Barkley Goes)
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Now, because we couldn't kick FG's....and because Hue let the Raiders control the game at the end....we're in must win situations if we want to qualify for the playoffs. The Chargers are direct competition for a playoff spot that we want. We've gotta win this game. (the goal is playoffs, until it's out of reach)
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Pretty good. They need a QB
Since when is 1-5 Pretty Good?
We're only contending in football games now because Dorsey did not do what you wanted us to do. (take Barkley and 'accept' whichever QB fell to #4 - And I kept saying NO, take the best QB and don't let anyone else tell you which one you can have)
As you said, Hue goes as Baker goes. And the Browns go as Baker goes. (the Giants don't Go as Barkley Goes)
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Now, because we couldn't kick FG's....and because Hue let the Raiders control the game at the end....we're in must win situations if we want to qualify for the playoffs. The Chargers are direct competition for a playoff spot that we want. We've gotta win this game. (the goal is playoffs, until it's out of reach)
Since when is 1-5 Pretty Good?
We're only contending in football games now because Dorsey did not do what you wanted us to do. (take Barkley and 'accept' whichever QB fell to #4 - And I kept saying NO, take the best QB and don't let anyone else tell you which one you can have)
As you said, Hue goes as Baker goes. And the Browns go as Baker goes. (the Giants don't Go as Barkley Goes)
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Now, because we couldn't kick FG's....and because Hue let the Raiders control the game at the end....we're in must win situations if we want to qualify for the playoffs. The Chargers are direct competition for a playoff spot that we want. We've gotta win this game. (the goal is playoffs, until it's out of reach)
Barkley was the best player in the draft. The Browns would have done well to draft him. The guy is in a league of his own. Manning is the problem in NY. Every team has to rebuild at some point. They made a great choice.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Since when is 1-5 Pretty Good?
We're only contending in football games now because Dorsey did not do what you wanted us to do. (take Barkley and 'accept' whichever QB fell to #4 - And I kept saying NO, take the best QB and don't let anyone else tell you which one you can have)
As you said, Hue goes as Baker goes. And the Browns go as Baker goes. (the Giants don't Go as Barkley Goes)
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Now, because we couldn't kick FG's....and because Hue let the Raiders control the game at the end....we're in must win situations if we want to qualify for the playoffs. The Chargers are direct competition for a playoff spot that we want. We've gotta win this game. (the goal is playoffs, until it's out of reach)
Barkley was the best player in the draft. The Browns would have done well to draft him. The guy is in a league of his own. Manning is the problem in NY. Every team has to rebuild at some point. They made a great choice.
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He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
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How are the Giants doin' with that RB you wanted us to draft instead of Baker?
Don't worry, I brought that up in another thread....
Pretty good. They need a QB
ROTFL, if you consider 1-5 as "pretty good". The Giants suck, and I'll bet you $20 bucks right now they'll be in the bottom 5 when the power rankings come out next Tuesday. As Gipper would say- thanks for contradicting yourself. They (the Giants) needed Sam Darnold far more than they needed Barkley. Their GM will get fired if he doesn't get a top qb in the top 5 picks next year (which is where they're going to be drafting) with your game changer Saquon. Told ya- Eli is washed up, they were drafting #2, they had their pick of his replacement with the QB we don't take, and they take a freaking running back. As bad as the Browns passing on Carson Wentz. Just watch.
He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
We took Trent Richardson, and somebody did get fired. So Mr. Ghoolie- wasn't exactly Rocket Science Barkley was the best running back coming out since Adrian Peterson. I even grudgingly admitted so. Adrian ever win a Super Bowl? It might have been more tolerable if a certain guy (not you) was posting daily that Saquon was the only option, at the expense of drafting a franchise qb first. FWIW, based on some of Haley's comments- I think the Browns would probably have taken Ward over Barkley even if Saquon had fallen down to #4, which just might have happened.
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He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
I dunno... the kid looked awesome last nite. Made the most electric run under 10 yards since JB swept left vs da 'Boys for a TD over 50 years ago.
NYG's biggest issue is their OL. Terrible pass blocking and only slightly better run blocking, which makes Saquon's numbers all the more impressive.
I guess they inked the wrong five fat-a$$es...
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He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
I dunno... the kid looked awesome last nite. Made the most electric run under 10 yards since JB swept left vs da 'Boys for a TD over 50 years ago.
NYG's biggest issue is their OL. Terrible pass blocking and only slightly better run blocking, which makes Saquon's numbers all the more impressive.
I guess they inked the wrong five fat-a$$es...
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I watched that JB run live and was slack-jawed...
Different than the Barkley run last nite, but remarkable in its own way...
Back then Bark's run last nite would have drawn at least three flags. Back in the day "hurdling" was illegal. I've no idea when the rule was rescinded.
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I watched that JB run live and was slack-jawed...
Different than the Barkley run last nite, but remarkable in its own way...
Back then Bark's run last nite would have drawn at least three flags. Back in the day "hurdling" was illegal. I've no idea when the rule was rescinded.
I watched that JB run live and was slack-jawed...
Different than the Barkley run last nite, but remarkable in its own way...
My wife & 2 daughters went to the Giants/Panthers last week.Told my youngest young'in "No ya can't get a kicker's Jersey"
.Eli's arm seemed not to like only 4 days off. Wife said Panthers loaded the box to hold Bark to 15 carries 48yrds. but forgot to spy him on 4 catches,81yrds.2 TDs..Eli dropped dimes all over panthers secondary..a strange night for Eli. Barkley looks to be a full time weapon.Am not sure OBJ likes the new toy?
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Since when is 1-5 Pretty Good?
We're only contending in football games now because Dorsey did not do what you wanted us to do. (take Barkley and 'accept' whichever QB fell to #4 - And I kept saying NO, take the best QB and don't let anyone else tell you which one you can have)
As you said, Hue goes as Baker goes. And the Browns go as Baker goes. (the Giants don't Go as Barkley Goes)
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Now, because we couldn't kick FG's....and because Hue let the Raiders control the game at the end....we're in must win situations if we want to qualify for the playoffs. The Chargers are direct competition for a playoff spot that we want. We've gotta win this game. (the goal is playoffs, until it's out of reach)
Barkley was the best player in the draft. The Browns would have done well to draft him. The guy is in a league of his own. Manning is the problem in NY. Every team has to rebuild at some point. They made a great choice.
Barkley was the best player in the draft. The Browns would have done well to draft him. The guy is in a league of his own. Manning is the problem in NY. Every team has to rebuild at some point. They made a great choice.
Offensive line is their problem
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I watched that JB run live and was slack-jawed...
Different than the Barkley run last nite, but remarkable in its own way...
Back then Bark's run last nite would have drawn at least three flags. Back in the day "hurdling" was illegal. I've no idea when the rule was rescinded.
I watched that JB run live and was slack-jawed...
...and look at how cool our uni's were back then. (rare that we were in our brown jersey. just like the Cowboys, they hardly ever wore their blue.)
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How are the Giants doin' with that RB you wanted us to draft instead of Baker?
Don't worry, I brought that up in another thread....
Pretty good. They need a QB
ROTFL, if you consider 1-5 as "pretty good". The Giants suck, and I'll bet you $20 bucks right now they'll be in the bottom 5 when the power rankings come out next Tuesday. As Gipper would say- thanks for contradicting yourself. They (the Giants) needed Sam Darnold far more than they needed Barkley. Their GM will get fired if he doesn't get a top qb in the top 5 picks next year (which is where they're going to be drafting) with your game changer Saquon. Told ya- Eli is washed up, they were drafting #2, they had their pick of his replacement with the QB we don't take, and they take a freaking running back. As bad as the Browns passing on Carson Wentz. Just watch.
He gets 200 yards and they lost by around 20 points.
Any GM that takes a running back in the top five picks should be immediately fired
We took Trent Richardson, and somebody did get fired. So Mr. Ghoolie- wasn't exactly Rocket Science Barkley was the best running back coming out since Adrian Peterson. I even grudgingly admitted so. Adrian ever win a Super Bowl? It might have been more tolerable if a certain guy (not you) was posting daily that Saquon was the only option, at the expense of drafting a franchise qb first. FWIW, based on some of Haley's comments- I think the Browns would probably have taken Ward over Barkley even if Saquon had fallen down to #4, which just might have happened.
Don't worry, I brought that up in another thread....
ROTFL, if you consider 1-5 as "pretty good". The Giants suck, and I'll bet you $20 bucks right now they'll be in the bottom 5 when the power rankings come out next Tuesday. As Gipper would say- thanks for contradicting yourself. They (the Giants) needed Sam Darnold far more than they needed Barkley. Their GM will get fired if he doesn't get a top qb in the top 5 picks next year (which is where they're going to be drafting) with your game changer Saquon. Told ya- Eli is washed up, they were drafting #2, they had their pick of his replacement with the QB we don't take, and they take a freaking running back. As bad as the Browns passing on Carson Wentz. Just watch.
We took Trent Richardson, and somebody did get fired. So Mr. Ghoolie- wasn't exactly Rocket Science Barkley was the best running back coming out since Adrian Peterson. I even grudgingly admitted so. Adrian ever win a Super Bowl? It might have been more tolerable if a certain guy (not you) was posting daily that Saquon was the only option, at the expense of drafting a franchise qb first. FWIW, based on some of Haley's comments- I think the Browns would probably have taken Ward over Barkley even if Saquon had fallen down to #4, which just might have happened.
Barkley was the absolute proper pick for #1 #1.............Barkley is the best RB in the NFL over the past 20 years. The Giants made the right pick. I hade to hear you homosexuals go on and on and on about how Garrett was a tremendous pick, and how JT also was, and would be a HOF cinch. Of course these jackoffs went 1 - 31. So the Giants ate 1 - 5? Sorry pimple dix, you lose again. The Giants chose to rebuild starting with a RB. Brakely is the schidt. Great, great pick.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Don't worry, I brought that up in another thread....
ROTFL, if you consider 1-5 as "pretty good". The Giants suck, and I'll bet you $20 bucks right now they'll be in the bottom 5 when the power rankings come out next Tuesday. As Gipper would say- thanks for contradicting yourself. They (the Giants) needed Sam Darnold far more than they needed Barkley. Their GM will get fired if he doesn't get a top qb in the top 5 picks next year (which is where they're going to be drafting) with your game changer Saquon. Told ya- Eli is washed up, they were drafting #2, they had their pick of his replacement with the QB we don't take, and they take a freaking running back. As bad as the Browns passing on Carson Wentz. Just watch.
We took Trent Richardson, and somebody did get fired. So Mr. Ghoolie- wasn't exactly Rocket Science Barkley was the best running back coming out since Adrian Peterson. I even grudgingly admitted so. Adrian ever win a Super Bowl? It might have been more tolerable if a certain guy (not you) was posting daily that Saquon was the only option, at the expense of drafting a franchise qb first. FWIW, based on some of Haley's comments- I think the Browns would probably have taken Ward over Barkley even if Saquon had fallen down to #4, which just might have happened.
Barkley was the absolute proper pick for #1 #1.............Barkley is the best RB in the NFL over the past 20 years. The Giants made the right pick. I hade to hear you homosexuals go on and on and on about how Garrett was a tremendous pick, and how JT also was, and would be a HOF cinch. Of course these jackoffs went 1 - 31. So the Giants ate 1 - 5? Sorry pimple dix, you lose again. The Giants chose to rebuild starting with a RB. Brakely is the schidt. Great, great pick.
Barkley was the absolute proper pick for #1 #1.............Barkley is the best RB in the NFL over the past 20 years. The Giants made the right pick. I hade to hear you homosexuals go on and on and on about how Garrett was a tremendous pick, and how JT also was, and would be a HOF cinch. Of course these jackoffs went 1 - 31. So the Giants ate 1 - 5? Sorry pimple dix, you lose again. The Giants chose to rebuild starting with a RB. Brakely is the schidt. Great, great pick.
No, dumb troll, Barkley is NOT the best RB in the NFL over last 20 years. That is almost as stupid as hearing he is going to be the best ever before ever getting drafted.
He has been impressive, but not even close to say best rb in 20 years.
Like I told you Biggie Trolls, EVERY TIME you come on here as say dumb things and I see it, I'm calling you out. Every time you LIE, calling you out, and every time you use disgusting language and remarks, I for sure am calling you out. So while everyone may be completely tired of seeing your idiotic comments, I will give you a taste of your own medicine.
I heard an interesting stat today, of the last 13 1st round QBs that ONE is a bust... you guessed it Paxton Lynch
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Don't worry, I brought that up in another thread....
ROTFL, if you consider 1-5 as "pretty good". The Giants suck, and I'll bet you $20 bucks right now they'll be in the bottom 5 when the power rankings come out next Tuesday. As Gipper would say- thanks for contradicting yourself. They (the Giants) needed Sam Darnold far more than they needed Barkley. Their GM will get fired if he doesn't get a top qb in the top 5 picks next year (which is where they're going to be drafting) with your game changer Saquon. Told ya- Eli is washed up, they were drafting #2, they had their pick of his replacement with the QB we don't take, and they take a freaking running back. As bad as the Browns passing on Carson Wentz. Just watch.
We took Trent Richardson, and somebody did get fired. So Mr. Ghoolie- wasn't exactly Rocket Science Barkley was the best running back coming out since Adrian Peterson. I even grudgingly admitted so. Adrian ever win a Super Bowl? It might have been more tolerable if a certain guy (not you) was posting daily that Saquon was the only option, at the expense of drafting a franchise qb first. FWIW, based on some of Haley's comments- I think the Browns would probably have taken Ward over Barkley even if Saquon had fallen down to #4, which just might have happened.
Barkley was the absolute proper pick for #1 #1.............Barkley is the best RB in the NFL over the past 20 years. The Giants made the right pick. I hade to hear you homosexuals go on and on and on about how Garrett was a tremendous pick, and how JT also was, and would be a HOF cinch. Of course these jackoffs went 1 - 31. So the Giants ate 1 - 5? Sorry pimple dix, you lose again. The Giants chose to rebuild starting with a RB. Brakely is the schidt. Great, great pick.
I have to hear you homosexuals go on and on and on about how Garrett was a tremendous pick, and how JT also was, and would be a HOF cinch. Of course these jackoffs went 1 - 31. So the Giants ate 1 - 5? Sorry pimple dix, you lose again. The Giants chose to rebuild starting with a RB. Brakely is the schidt. Great, great pick.
You don't have to. In fact, don't let the door hit you in the asss on the way out.
Yeah, you're so impressed with the Giants' rookie RB that you don't even know how to spell his name. Thatta boy!
You Rang! Which one are you speaking of? L Or R?
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