The official Terry Pluto thread
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He had a better OL last year. A little more time to go through progressions.
True, but once in scramble mode progressions go out the window... attention immediately turns to "safety valve(s)".
In the play I discussed there were two and he looked at neither.
True, but once in scramble mode progressions go out the window... attention immediately turns to "safety valve(s)".
In the play I discussed there were two and he looked at neither.
And Hunt should actually be viewed as a primary out of the backfield that Baker looks away and long to distract from the real primary until he's wide open. Just plain foolish to me given Hunt's value as an open filed runner/receiver. Freddie needs to pay more attention to that as does Baker.
EDIT: This is how Rodriguez was using McCaffrey until he was canned. Same kind of designed look away screens and passes out of the backfield and let the man do his open field runs with the ball. Even some excellent PA to McCaffrey and then he sneaks through the line for open passes. Completely designed that way.
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Preseason this was a pretty solid W but now the BROWNS must play to win.
10. So why do I have an uneasy feeling about this game? The Browns run-defense has been lousy all year. They rank 26th against the run. Murray is the new breed of QB who can run the ball effectively. His 448 yards rushing is second among QBs, behind only Baltimore Ravens MVP candidate Lamar Jackson. If the Browns don’t keep Murray under control running the ball, there could be trouble.
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Myles "dumb-dumb" Garrett still hurting his teammates.
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True, but once in scramble mode progressions go out the window... attention immediately turns to "safety valve(s)".
In the play I discussed there were two and he looked at neither.
And Hunt should actually be viewed as a primary out of the backfield that Baker looks away and long to distract from the real primary until he's wide open. Just plain foolish to me given Hunt's value as an open filed runner/receiver. Freddie needs to pay more attention to that as does Baker.
EDIT: This is how Rodriguez was using McCaffrey until he was canned. Same kind of designed look away screens and passes out of the backfield and let the man do his open field runs with the ball. Even some excellent PA to McCaffrey and then he sneaks through the line for open passes. Completely designed that way.
EDIT: This is how Rodriguez was using McCaffrey until he was canned.
Would that be Ron Rodriguez???
Hunt also caught more than a few passes after PA fakes to him in KC.
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Re: the above film study, can't help but notice going off some of last years tape - the jab step Baker seems to over emphasize when in the gun this season wasn't as prevalent during last year.
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Play the scratch off game for free tickets if you are lucky. Found it on youtube so I have no idea how legitimate it is.
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From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
Embarrassing? Disturbing? Ugly? Pick a word for inexcusable Cleveland Browns loss
Updated Dec 16, 6:06 AM;Posted Dec 15, 7:17 PMGO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
This is a good read, here's just part of it.....
SOMETHING IS WRONG
I don’t feel like talking Xs and Os.
There is something very wrong with this team, something deeper than strategy.
Coming into the game, Arizona had lost six in a row. The Cardinals were 3-9-1 overall and were 1-5 on their home field.
That’s the team who embarrassed the Browns.
I’m tired of the Browns being out-coached and out-hustled.
I’m sick of them losing to first-year QBs, be it Brandon Allen in Denver, Delvin “Duck” Hodges in Pittsburgh or now Kyler Murray in Arizona.
But it’s more than that.
There is something lacking in terms of character and concentration.
Not with every player.
Nick Chubb is giving younger Browns fans glimpses of what it was like to watch Jim Brown in the 1950s and 1960s.
Chubb rushed for 127 yards. He was brilliant as always.
But the Browns remain a collection of individuals unable to come together when facing adversity on the field.
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From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
Embarrassing? Disturbing? Ugly? Pick a word for inexcusable Cleveland Browns loss
Updated Dec 16, 6:06 AM;Posted Dec 15, 7:17 PMFrom Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
I think, no I'm sure Terry is as pissed as all of us how the BROWNS basically threw away a whole season which had great expectations.
(And Terry is a religious guy he would probably not have used pissed.
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GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
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Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
I think, no I'm sure Terry is as pissed as all of us how the BROWNS basically threw away a whole season which had great expectations.
(And Terry is a religious guy he would probably not have used pissed.
)
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Funny how everyone hyped us into some kind of contender with one exception. Guys on "Moving the Chains" NFL Radio way back before the season began were saying to lay off the gas pedal. They agreed it was very rare for any team to make the giant leap from loser to contender in one season. If you look at what we went in with this OL, an untried defense and an inexperienced HC, then realistically they were right. 6-10 or 7-9 was more the in between step. Fix it for next year and move on.
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Funny how everyone hyped us into some kind of contender with one exception. Guys on "Moving the Chains" NFL Radio way back before the season began were saying to lay off the gas pedal. They agreed it was very rare for any team to make the giant leap from loser to contender in one season. If you look at what we went in with this OL, an untried defense and an inexperienced HC, then realistically they were right. 6-10 or 7-9 was more the in between step. Fix it for next year and move on.
Funny how everyone hyped us into some kind of contender with one exception. Guys on "Moving the Chains" NFL Radio way back before the season began were saying to lay off the gas pedal. They agreed it was very rare for any team to make the giant leap from loser to contender in one season. If you look at what we went in with this OL, an untried defense and an inexperienced HC, then realistically they were right. 6-10 or 7-9 was more the in between step. Fix it for next year and move on.
The only thing that didn't jive with their prognostication was that in 2018 they were 7-8-1 with a rookie quarterback. 9, 10, 11+ wins was a very logical and attainable goal.
They just blew it !
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
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From Terry Pluto, cleveland.com:. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/embarrassing-disturbing-ugly-pick-a-word-for-inexcusable-cleveland-browns-loss.html
The Browns were favored to win this game. A victory would have made them 7-7 and kept hopes of a winning season and a flicker of playoff possibilities alive for another week.
Instead, they are 6-8.
No winning season. No playoffs.
Et tu, Terry??? There is a "flicker"... or at least half a flicker.
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
Why are writers... even our own... writing us off before it's a fact?
Guessing because our defense is a sieve. And our offense is a far cry from a 'scoring machine'. And then there's Freddie who'll play anybody except Higgns & Njoku. There's two guys right there that many of us expected to have big seasons with OBJ & Landry drawing the coverage away from them. Nope, they can't find the field. One of 'em a 1st round pick. - At the end of the season ownership will probably want to know why a promising 1st round pick TE wasn't utilized in a losing record season.
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A gleam rather than a flicker would be awesome right about now.
No matter how many times I see the Shottenheimer "There's a gleam men..." video, I still have no idea what he's talking about. ?
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No matter how many times I see the Shottenheimer "There's a gleam men..." video, I still have no idea what he's talking about. ?
Really? Here is the gleam he was talking about:
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