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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    Advocates of Male-or-Female Identity Cheer Proposed End of Obama’s Transgender Ideology

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/22/advocates-of-male-and-female-biological-id-cheer-proposed-end-of-obamas-transgender-ideology/

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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      Yes, the American College of Pediatricians is in fact a small, socially conservative advocacy group. Not the leading group of Pediatricians in the US. That's the American Academy of Pediatrics, which, as you might have guessed, has a much different view on transgender individuals.

      Of course, it's easier to just read what you want to hear, and then say it's from a reputable group, without looking into it. Why would anyone do that? 

      What Obama policies are changing, and to what, I don't know. But posting quotes from another "trick" conservative "expert" group is played out.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        Yes, the American College of Pediatricians is in fact a small, socially conservative advocacy group. Not the leading group of Pediatricians in the US. That's the American Academy of Pediatrics, which, as you might have guessed, has a much different view on transgender individuals.

        Of course, it's easier to just read what you want to hear, and then say it's from a reputable group, without looking into it. Why would anyone do that? 

        What Obama policies are changing, and to what, I don't know. But posting quotes from another "trick" conservative "expert" group is played out.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        Yes, the American College of Pediatricians is in fact a small, socially conservative advocacy group. Not the leading group of Pediatricians in the US. That's the American Academy of Pediatrics, which, as you might have guessed, has a much different view on transgender individuals.

        Of course, it's easier to just read what you want to hear, and then say it's from a reputable group, without looking into it. Why would anyone do that? 

        What Obama policies are changing, and to what, I don't know. But posting quotes from another "trick" conservative "expert" group is played out.

        You can say your eyes are brown. But if your eyes are blue, that doesn't make it so.

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          Instead of fighting it, conservatives should just let it all burn itself out. Once people are saying they can swap genders by the hour and must have consent to change a baby’s diaper etc., they are jumping the shark. Stand back and watch it all fall on its face. Throwing a fit just makes you look bad when you can just let the ultra left weed themselves out.

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            Instead of fighting it, conservatives should just let it all burn itself out. Once people are saying they can swap genders by the hour and must have consent to change a baby’s diaper etc., they are jumping the shark. Stand back and watch it all fall on its face. Throwing a fit just makes you look bad when you can just let the ultra left weed themselves out.

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @logicisforsquares said:

            Instead of fighting it, conservatives should just let it all burn itself out. Once people are saying they can swap genders by the hour and must have consent to change a baby’s diaper etc., they are jumping the shark. Stand back and watch it all fall on its face. Throwing a fit just makes you look bad when you can just let the ultra left weed themselves out.

            You are not wrong but in the meantime:

            BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

            https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              F ucking freaks.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  and as usual, woody ignores the science. Because he thinks his gender is bird.

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                    @logicisforsquares said:

                    Instead of fighting it, conservatives should just let it all burn itself out. Once people are saying they can swap genders by the hour and must have consent to change a baby’s diaper etc., they are jumping the shark. Stand back and watch it all fall on its face. Throwing a fit just makes you look bad when you can just let the ultra left weed themselves out.

                    You are not wrong but in the meantime:

                    BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

                    https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    You are not wrong but in the meantime:

                    BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

                    https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

                    Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      You are not wrong but in the meantime:

                      BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

                      https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

                      Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

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                      @logicisforsquares said:

                      Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

                      I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

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                        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

                          I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

                          WSS

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                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

                          WSS

                          I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

                            WSS

                            I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

                            Could be. Of course we've had generation after generation including my own, who thought some pretty stupid things that we grew out of. I don't know if there have been any that are stupider then believing you can decide what sex you actually are.

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                              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                              I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

                              However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

                              From,

                              Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

                              "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

                                However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

                                From,

                                Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @jbluhm86 said:

                                I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

                                However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

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                                Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

                                Pff, What do you know anyway?

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                  @jbluhm86 said:

                                  I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

                                  However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

                                  From,

                                  Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

                                  Pff, What do you know anyway?

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                                  jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Pff, What do you know anyway?

                                  I know enough to know that I don't know nearly enough, as Socrates would say.

                                  However, I do know that the proposition that fitting all roughly 6.5 million species of land animals onto a roughly 500' x 90'x 50' wooden boat built by pre-bronze age nomads gives me skeptical hippo eyes.

                                  "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                                      everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

                                      Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.

                                      "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

                                          Two genders? Expand your mind. New York city recognizes 31 different genders:

                                          List of 31 genders in New York City:

                                          1. Bi-gendered
                                          2. Cross-dresser
                                          3. Drag King
                                          4. Drag Queen
                                          5. Femme Queen
                                          6. Female-to-Male
                                          7. FTM
                                          8. Gender Bender
                                          9. Genderqueer
                                          10. Male-to-Female
                                          11. MTF
                                          12. Non-Op
                                          13. HIJRA
                                          14. Pangender
                                          15. Transexual/Transsexual
                                          16. Trans Person
                                          17. Woman
                                          18. Man
                                          19. Butch
                                          20. Two-Spirit
                                          21. Trans
                                          22. Agender
                                          23. Third Sex
                                          24. Gender Fluid
                                          25. Non-Binary Transgender
                                          26. Androgyne
                                          27. Gender Gifted
                                          28. Gender Blender
                                          29. Femme
                                          30. Person of Transgender Experience
                                          31. Androgynous

                                          http://trove42.com/new-york-city-recognizes-31-gender-identities/

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