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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    You are not wrong but in the meantime:

    BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

    Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

    I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

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        @logicisforsquares said:

        Conservatives don’t have to say a peep. Let this sort of goof sh-it happen enough and even lefties will start to push back against the extreme end. I bet every woman involved has reconsidered their position on things.

        I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

        WSS

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        @westside-steve said:

        I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

        WSS

        I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

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          @westside-steve said:

          I think you're kidding yourself if you believe it will just Fade Out. There are always going to be 0 0 0 point 1% of a-holes who want to shock and offend and a good chunk of idiots who think it's cool to support them. Like you know who. They will be continuously looking for a new and bigger outrage and Mayors like DeBlasio will be happy to sign that crap.

          WSS

          I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

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          @logicisforsquares said:

          I think they will run out of goodwill. Accommodating make believe to the point of inconvenience will wear normal people out. Stupid kids who support it will get old and too tied up with life to keep up the facade.

          Could be. Of course we've had generation after generation including my own, who thought some pretty stupid things that we grew out of. I don't know if there have been any that are stupider then believing you can decide what sex you actually are.

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            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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            I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

            However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

            From,

            Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

            "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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            • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

              I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

              However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

              From,

              Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @jbluhm86 said:

              I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

              However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

              From,

              Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

              Pff, What do you know anyway?

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).

                However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.

                From,

                Your friendly neighborhood biologist.

                Pff, What do you know anyway?

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                jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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                @mld-woody said:

                Pff, What do you know anyway?

                I know enough to know that I don't know nearly enough, as Socrates would say.

                However, I do know that the proposition that fitting all roughly 6.5 million species of land animals onto a roughly 500' x 90'x 50' wooden boat built by pre-bronze age nomads gives me skeptical hippo eyes.

                "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                    everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

                    Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.

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                      So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).

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                        everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

                        Two genders? Expand your mind. New York city recognizes 31 different genders:

                        List of 31 genders in New York City:

                        1. Bi-gendered
                        2. Cross-dresser
                        3. Drag King
                        4. Drag Queen
                        5. Femme Queen
                        6. Female-to-Male
                        7. FTM
                        8. Gender Bender
                        9. Genderqueer
                        10. Male-to-Female
                        11. MTF
                        12. Non-Op
                        13. HIJRA
                        14. Pangender
                        15. Transexual/Transsexual
                        16. Trans Person
                        17. Woman
                        18. Man
                        19. Butch
                        20. Two-Spirit
                        21. Trans
                        22. Agender
                        23. Third Sex
                        24. Gender Fluid
                        25. Non-Binary Transgender
                        26. Androgyne
                        27. Gender Gifted
                        28. Gender Blender
                        29. Femme
                        30. Person of Transgender Experience
                        31. Androgynous

                        http://trove42.com/new-york-city-recognizes-31-gender-identities/

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                          So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).

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                          jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).

                          Not really.

                          Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.

                          Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy. 

                            Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.

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                            @jbluhm86 said:

                            Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.

                            im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom. 

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).

                              Not really.

                              Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.

                              Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              Not really.

                              Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.

                              Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.

                              And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered? 

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                                @jbluhm86 said:

                                Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.

                                im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom. 

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom. 

                                I think most sane people realize that. Unfortunately that seems like it's a minority of this board. 

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                                  @jbluhm86 said:

                                  Not really.

                                  Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.

                                  Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.

                                  And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered? 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered? 

                                  Gender Identity Disorder

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                                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jbluhm86 said:

                                      So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        @jbluhm86 said:

                                        So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".

                                        I would give her an A for persistence....she should get a participation trophy.

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                                          @jbluhm86 said:

                                          So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".

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