Trump Chooses Science Over the Biology Deniers:
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I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).
However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.
From,
Your friendly neighborhood biologist.
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I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).
However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.
From,
Your friendly neighborhood biologist.
I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).
However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.
From,
Your friendly neighborhood biologist.
Pff, What do you know anyway?
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I agree that, biologically speaking, there are only two genders in humans (3 if you include genetically intersex people).
However, I also find it amusing that people who believe that the Earth/Universe is >6000 years old, that all species of the animal kingdom could fit on a wooden boat, that believe that the Earth stopped rotating to aid a battle, etc - are now deciding to lecture on the merits of biology and other science.
From,
Your friendly neighborhood biologist.
Pff, What do you know anyway?
Pff, What do you know anyway?
I know enough to know that I don't know nearly enough, as Socrates would say.
However, I do know that the proposition that fitting all roughly 6.5 million species of land animals onto a roughly 500' x 90'x 50' wooden boat built by pre-bronze age nomads gives me skeptical hippo eyes.
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everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
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everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.
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So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
Two genders? Expand your mind. New York city recognizes 31 different genders:
List of 31 genders in New York City:
- Bi-gendered
- Cross-dresser
- Drag King
- Drag Queen
- Femme Queen
- Female-to-Male
- FTM
- Gender Bender
- Genderqueer
- Male-to-Female
- MTF
- Non-Op
- HIJRA
- Pangender
- Transexual/Transsexual
- Trans Person
- Woman
- Man
- Butch
- Two-Spirit
- Trans
- Agender
- Third Sex
- Gender Fluid
- Non-Binary Transgender
- Androgyne
- Gender Gifted
- Gender Blender
- Femme
- Person of Transgender Experience
- Androgynous
http://trove42.com/new-york-city-recognizes-31-gender-identities/
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So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).
So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).
Not really.
Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.
Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
everyone acknowledges that "physically" speaking there are only two genders. THe point transgender people make is that they were born to the wrong physical sex. That's their imperative to decide that, not ours. Does that entitle anyone to walk into the opposite sex bathroom when they feel like? No. But if someone makes the transition, like Bruce...he/she should be able to use the ladies room. Thta's clearly not a man anymore, he's gone through enough of the hormone therapy.
Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.
Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.
im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom.
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So is it a distinction between sex and gender then? Or whatever the correct terms are. With one being biological and the other being mental (which I guess is also genetics too).
Not really.
Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.
Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.
Not really.
Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.
Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.
And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Except the Y chromosome in every cell of his body argues the contrary. Being a man and going through gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man with his coc.k and balls lobbed off.
im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom.
im not disagreeing. What im saying is if someone has gone thorugh that therapy they've proven that they are an actual transgendered person and not someone who's just trying to throw on some pantyhose and a wig and go into the female restroom.
I think most sane people realize that. Unfortunately that seems like it's a minority of this board.
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Not really.
Just because I "feel" like a brontosaurus, that doesn't magically make me Littlefoot.
Subjective feelings =/= objective reality.
And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered?
And I'm not claiming that a man that feels they're a woman is genetically a woman. I get that. But their genetics are also leading them to believe they aren't a man, so what is that considered?
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So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".
I would give her an A for persistence....she should get a participation trophy.
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So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".
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So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".
Relative intelligence aside, you are side-stepping the meat of his argument.
For example, I was born in 1986, but why am I not 65 instead of 32 years old? I can claim that I'm 65 years old, and - with every fiber of my being- subjectively "feel" like I'm genuinely 65 years old, but the objective facts are that i'm 32 years old because my biological being was born 32 years ago.
The same principle can be applied to gender and biological sex; they aren't two completely separate entities. Bruce Jenner may personally believe that he feels like a woman and has even had surgery to configure his physiology to resemble that of a woman's, but it is just a facsimile of a woman's body, not the real thing. At the end of the day, he's still a man who's pretending to be a woman; much like Chaz Bono is a woman pretending to be a man. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be respected as human beings and be denied the rights that all human being are entitled to, but humoring their respective delusions just to placate their feelings doesn't sync with objective reality.
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So that's Ben "debating" someone much less prepared and less intelligent than him. Of course he "destroyed" her lol. She wasn't ready for any of that, regardless which side is "right".
Relative intelligence aside, you are side-stepping the meat of his argument.
For example, I was born in 1986, but why am I not 65 instead of 32 years old? I can claim that I'm 65 years old, and - with every fiber of my being- subjectively "feel" like I'm genuinely 65 years old, but the objective facts are that i'm 32 years old because my biological being was born 32 years ago.
The same principle can be applied to gender and biological sex; they aren't two completely separate entities. Bruce Jenner may personally believe that he feels like a woman and has even had surgery to configure his physiology to resemble that of a woman's, but it is just a facsimile of a woman's body, not the real thing. At the end of the day, he's still a man who's pretending to be a woman; much like Chaz Bono is a woman pretending to be a man. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be respected as human beings and be denied the rights that all human being are entitled to, but humoring their respective delusions just to placate their feelings doesn't sync with objective reality.
Relative intelligence aside, you are side-stepping the meat of his argument.
For example, I was born in 1986, but why am I not 65 instead of 32 years old? I can claim that I'm 65 years old, and - with every fiber of my being- subjectively "feel" like I'm genuinely 65 years old, but the objective facts are that i'm 32 years old because my biological being was born 32 years ago.
The same principle can be applied to gender and biological sex; they aren't two completely separate entities. Bruce Jenner may personally believe that he feels like a woman and has even had surgery to configure his physiology to resemble that of a woman's, but it is just a facsimile of a woman's body, not the real thing. At the end of the day, he's still a man who's pretending to be a woman; much like Chaz Bono is a woman pretending to be a man. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be respected as human beings and be denied the rights that all human being are entitled to, but humoring their respective delusions just to placate their feelings doesn't sync with objective reality.
Exactly.
WSS
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You just lost Woody forever. He is probably still crying.
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He/she has every right to be angry because Trump made it clear when he was running he would support the LGBTQ community. But then he is King Liar, so there's that.
The ignorance on this board never ceases to amaze me. If you have ever known a real transgender person, then you should be aware they always thought they were the other gender trapped in the wrong body. From very early age they were aware of it. They did not just suddenly decide to be the opposite sex of their birth. But your president is also an ignoramus, so it does not surprise me at all he uses that for his own political gain with ignorant followers.
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