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  • .....and if any of them has to play, bet the house on the opponent.  

    @orion said:

    .....and if any of them has to play, bet the house on the opponent.  

    aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler  expected to play....even start?

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  • @the-gipper said:

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    Someone left flowers in a champagne bottle on Johnny's

  • Conner Shaw will be a good trivia question some day. Started the season finale against Ravens in 2014 ... I had forgotten about him already until I saw his headstone.

    Z

  • Season(s) Quarterback(s)
    1946 Otto Graham (11) / Cliff Lewis (3)
    1947 Otto Graham (9) / Cliff Lewis (5)
    1948 Otto Graham (14)
    1949 Otto Graham (11) / Cliff Lewis (1)
    1950 Otto Graham (12)
    1951 Otto Graham (12)
    1952 Otto Graham (12)
    1953 Otto Graham (11) / George Ratterman (1)
    1954 Otto Graham (12)
    1955 Otto Graham (12)
    1956 George Ratterman (4) / Babe Parilli (3) / Tommy O'Connell (5)
    1957 Tommy O'Connell (9) /Milt Plum (3)
    1958 Milt Plum (12)
    1959 Milt Plum (12)
    1960 Milt Plum (12)
    1961 Milt Plum (13) / Len Dawson (1)
    1962 Jim Ninowski (7) / Frank Ryan (7)
    1963 Frank Ryan (13) / Jim Ninowski (1)
    1964 Frank Ryan (14)
    1965 Frank Ryan (12) / Jim Ninowski (2)
    1966 Frank Ryan (14)
    1967 Frank Ryan (13) / Gary Lane (1)
    1968 Frank Ryan (3) / Bill Nelsen (11)
    1969 Bill Nelsen (14)
    1970 Bill Nelsen (12) / Mike Phipps (1) / Don Gault (1)
    1971 Bill Nelsen (13) / Mike Phipps (1)
    1972 Mike Phipps (13) / Bill Nelsen (1)
    1973 Mike Phipps (14)
    1974 Mike Phipps (9) / Brian Sipe (5)
    1975 Mike Phipps (11) / Brian Sipe (2) / Will Cureton (1)
    1976 Mike Phipps (2) / Brian Sipe (14)
    1977 Brian Sipe (9) / Dave Mays (4) / Terry Luck (1)
    1978 Brian Sipe (16)
    1979 Brian Sipe (16)
    1980 Brian Sipe (16)
    1981 Brian Sipe (16)
    1982 Brian Sipe (6) / Paul McDonald (3)
    1983 Brian Sipe (14) / Paul McDonald (2)
    1984 Paul McDonald (16)
    1985 Gary Danielson (6) / Bernie Kosar (10)
    1986 Bernie Kosar (16)
    1987 Bernie Kosar (12) / Jeff Christensen (2) / Gary Danielson (1)
    1988 Bernie Kosar (9) / Mike Pagel (4) / Gary Danielson (1) / Don Strock (2)
    1989 Bernie Kosar (16)
    1990 Bernie Kosar (13) / Mike Pagel (3)
    1991 Bernie Kosar (16)
    1992 Bernie Kosar (7) / Mike Tomczak (8) / Todd Philcox (1)
    1993 Bernie Kosar (7) / Vinny Testaverde (6) / Todd Philcox (3)
    1994 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Mark Rypien (3)
    1995 Vinny Testaverde (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
    1996–1998 Suspended operations
    1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
    2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
    2001 Tim Couch (16)
    2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
    2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
    2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
    2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
    2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
    2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
    2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
    2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
    2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
    2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
    2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
    2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
    2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
    2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
    2016 Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) / Cody Kessler (8)
    2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1)
    2018 Tyrod Taylor (3) / Baker Mayfield (4)
  • From the above, the following QBs have started every game of a season for the Browns:

    Otto Graham....6 times

    Brian Sipe....4 times

    Milt Plum....3 times

    Bernie Kosar....3 times

    Frank Ryan....2 times

    Nelsen, Phipps, McDonald, Couch...1 time.

    As for the opposite and  Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate:  Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns?  :

    Len Dawson.....HOF

    Gary Lane

    Will Cureton

    Don Gault

    Terry Luck

    Spergon Wynn

    Bruce Gradkowski

    Thad Lewis

    Connor Shaw

    Kevin Hogan

  • @orion said:

    .....and if any of them has to play, bet the house on the opponent.  

    aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler  expected to play....even start?

    @the-gipper said:

    aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler  expected to play....even start?

    Anderson and Cockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami.   Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler  expected to play....even start?

    Anderson and Cockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami.   Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show. 

    @mark-o said:

    Anderson and Sockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami.   Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show. 

    And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.

  • @mark-o said:

    Anderson and Sockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami.   Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show. 

    And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.

    @the-gipper said:

    And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.

    That would be correct.  And 2 of them, Miami and Buffalo are on in primetime this very week.  

  • Zombo said:

    Forgot about Hogan .... Guess he just got promoted!

    Zombo

    Yes their backup just got arrested and Paxton is now living with Ghoolie as his live in Nanny

    @darren15 said:

    Yes their backup just got arrested and Paxton is now living with Ghoolie as his live in Nanny

    Paxton Lynch was just re-signed by Denver, given their #3 got arrested. Lynch is still learning. He will be fine. THe guy can flat out play. Don't be surprised to see the Browns make a play for him should Baker get hurt.

  • @ghoolie said:

    Azzhole QB. Single-handedly lost 4 Superbowls.

    All by himself?

    Maybe Kelly, Marino, Fouts, Moon, McNair, McNabb, Testaverde, K. Anderson among others need to be on the list of fools' azzholes list of losers, none of them have won a super bowl either. 

  • I'm assuming Don Strock started 2 games then.

  • I'm assuming Don Strock started 2 games then.

    @orion said:

    I'm assuming Don Strock started 2 games then.

    Strock was an ok backup in his career 22 starts in his 167 games played, not all that bad in that injury plagued 1988 season with the BROWNS.

    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
    Career       167 22 16-6-0 443 779 56.9 5349 45 5.8 42 5.4 67 6.9 5.6 12.1 32.0 74.9 37 320 6.16 4.95 4.5 7 8 21
    14 yrs MIA     163 20 14-6-0 388 688 56.4 4613 39 5.7 37 5.4 67 6.7 5.4 11.9 28.3 73.5 33 294 5.99 4.76 4.6 6 7 19
    1 yr CLE     4 2 2-0-0 55 91 60.4 736 6 6.6 5 5.5 41 8.1 6.9 13.4 184.0 85.2 4 26 7.47 6.37 4.2 1 1 2
    1974 24 MIA   10 1 0   0 0   0 0   0   0       0.0   0 0           0
    1975 25 MIA qb 10 6 3 2-1-0 26 45 57.8 230 2 4.4 2 4.4 25 5.1 4.0 8.8 38.3 67.8 3 29 4.19 3.15 6.3     2
    1976 26 MIA qb 10 4 1 1-0-0 21 47 44.7 359 3 6.4 2 4.3 53 7.6 7.0 17.1 89.8 74.7 4 41 6.24 5.65 7.8     2
    1977 27 MIA   10 4 0   2 4 50.0 12 0 0.0 1 25.0 9 3.0 -8.3 6.0 3.0 16.7 0 0 3.00 -8.25 0.0     0
    1978 28 MIA qb 10 16 7 5-2-0 72 135 53.3 825 12 8.9 6 4.4 57 6.1 5.9 11.5 51.6 83.1 9 73 5.22 5.01 6.3     4
    1979 29 MIA qb 10 16 4 3-1-0 56 100 56.0 830 6 6.0 6 6.0 53 8.3 6.8 14.8 51.9 78.3 2 22 7.92 6.45 2.0 1 1 3
    1980 30 MIA qb 10 16 2 1-1-0 30 62 48.4 313 1 1.6 5 8.1 33 5.0 1.7 10.4 19.6 35.2 5 49 3.94 0.88 7.5 1 1 1
    1981 31 MIA qb 10 16 1 0-1-0 79 130 60.8 901 6 4.6 8 6.2 52 6.9 5.1 11.4 56.3 71.3 6 45 6.29 4.53 4.4 2 2 3
    1982 32 MIA   10 9 0   30 55 54.5 306 2 3.6 5 9.1 43 5.6 2.2 10.2 34.0 45.0 1 5 5.38 2.07 1.8 2 2 2
    1983 33 MIA qb 10 15 2 2-0-0 34 52 65.4 403 4 7.7 1 1.9 47 7.8 8.4 11.9 26.9 106.5 3 30 6.78 7.42 5.5 0 1 1
    1984 34 MIA   10 16 0   4 6 66.7 27 0 0.0 0 0.0 12 4.5 4.5 6.8 1.7 76.4 0 0 4.50 4.50 0.0     0
    1985 35 MIA   10 16 0   7 9 77.8 141 1 11.1 0 0.0 67 15.7 17.9 20.1 8.8 155.8 0 0 15.67 17.89 0.0     0
    1986 36 MIA   10 16 0   14 20 70.0 152 2 10.0 0 0.0 21 7.6 9.6 10.9 9.5 125.4 0 0 7.60 9.60 0.0     1
    1987 37 MIA   10 12 0   13 23 56.5 114 0 0.0 1 4.3 26 5.0 3.0 8.8 9.5 51.7 0 0 4.96 3.00 0.0     0
    1988 38 CLE qb 12 4 2 2-0-0 55 91 60.4 736 6 6.6 5 5.5 41 8.1 6.9 13.4 184.0 85.2 4 26 7.47 6.37 4.2 1 1 2
  • @ghoolie said:

    Feel free to create your own list. Why don't you get one of the activity directors at the nursing home to get you some paper and crayons and you can add all those guys to your list? ?

    OK but they didn't allow crayons in grad school.   😉

  • From the above, the following QBs have started every game of a season for the Browns:

    Otto Graham....6 times

    Brian Sipe....4 times

    Milt Plum....3 times

    Bernie Kosar....3 times

    Frank Ryan....2 times

    Nelsen, Phipps, McDonald, Couch...1 time.

    As for the opposite and  Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate:  Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns?  :

    Len Dawson.....HOF

    Gary Lane

    Will Cureton

    Don Gault

    Terry Luck

    Spergon Wynn

    Bruce Gradkowski

    Thad Lewis

    Connor Shaw

    Kevin Hogan

    @the-gipper said:

    As for the opposite and  Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate:  Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns?  :

    Len Dawson.....HOF

    The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened? 

  • @the-gipper said:

    As for the opposite and  Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate:  Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns?  :

    Len Dawson.....HOF

    The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened? 

    Dawson born in 1935 was the ninth of 11 children of Ohio native James and England-born Annie Dawson. He attended Alliance High School in Alliance, Ohio. He was MVP of the football team and was named outstanding Ohio back of the year by the International News Service. A three-sport athlete, Dawson set school records in football and in basketball, and was the first athlete in 13 years to be named first-team all-state in both sports during the same year.

    He was 15 years older than me I remember hearing about Lenny Dawson but did not play near his era. Niles did play the Alliance Avaitors during the 1960s. Just doing a little digging I found (briefly, he had quite a career):

    During the recruiting process, Dawson had to choose between Ohio State University in Columbus and Purdue University in Indiana. While he was reluctant to take over Woody Hayes' split-T offense with the Buckeyes, the true reason for his selection of Purdue stemmed from the chemistry he had established with a Boilermaker assistant coach, Hank Stram beginning a friendship that would last for more than a half century. During three seasons with the Boilermakers, Dawson threw for over 3,000 yards, leading the Big Ten Conference in that category during each campaign. While at Purdue, Dawson was initiated into the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity.

    As a sophomore in 1954, Dawson put together an outstanding first season as the NCAA's leader in pass efficiency, while also playing defense and serving as the Boilermaker kicker. Blessed with a strong offensive line, he threw four touchdown passes in a 31-0 victory over the University of Missouri, then later engineered a huge upset of the University of Notre Dame, which had entered the contest on a 13-game winning streak.

    Despite being a first round pick in the 1957 NFL Draft, Dawson was unable to make an impact with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Following his rookie campaign, his status in the Steel City became even more tenuous when the Steelers acquired future Hall of Famer Bobby Layne early in the 1958 season.

    Dawson was then traded after to the Cleveland Browns on.December 31, 1959.

    After encountering similar problems in battling Browns' quarterback Milt Plum, Dawson was released having completed only 21 passes for 204 yards and two touchdowns in his five seasons of NFL play.

    Dawson signed with the American Football League's Dallas Texans on June 30, 1962. The move reunited him with Stram, who was beginning his third year as the Texans' head coach.

    In that first season, 1962, Dawson led the league in touchdowns and yards per attempt, and was The Sporting News' selection as the AFL MVP. He also led Dallas to the first of three league titles in a thrilling double-overtime victory over the two-time defending champion Oilers in Houston. Dawson ran a ball-control offense in the 20-17 win, and tossed a 28-yard touchdown pass to halfback Abner Haynes. The team then moved north to Kansas City and were renamed The Chiefs in 1963. Dawson was also selected by his peers as a Sporting News 1966 AFL All-League player.

    A pinpoint passer, Dawson's mobility helped him flourish in Stram's "moving pocket" offense. He would win four AFL passing titles and was selected as a league All-Star six times, ending the 10-year run of the league as its highest-rated career passer. From 1962 to 1969, Dawson threw more touchdown passes (182) than any other professional football quarterback during that time. In 1966, Dawson led the Chiefs to a, 11-2-1 record and a 31-7 win over the Buffalo Bills in the AFL championship game, earning his team the honor of representing the AFL in Super Bowl I, the first championship game between the AFL and their NFL rivals. The NFL champion Green Bay Packers won easily, 35-10, but Dawson had a fairly good performance in the game, completing 16 of 27 passes for 210 yards and one touchdown, with one interception.

    While he threw for more than 2,000 yards in each of the previous seven campaigns, Dawson's 1969 season with Kansas City would be his most memorable by making a dramatic comeback from a knee injury suffered in the season's second game. The injury was first feared as season-ending, but after missing five games, Dawson went on to lead the Chiefs to road playoff victories over both the defending champion New York Jets and the Oakland Raiders.

    He then capped his year with MVP accolades in Super Bowl IV, the last game ever played by an American Football League team.  With the league's absorption into the National Football League in 1970, Dawson earned one final honor from the league as a member of the second team All-time All-AFL Team. He is also a member of the Chiefs' Hall of Fame and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He would earn Pro Bowl honors following the 1971 NFL season, then ended his career in 1975,

    He retired in May 1976 just before turning 41.
     

  • Tyrod Taylor is a serviceable NFL quarterback and it shouldn't be long before somebody is going to lose one due to injury and be up against the wire. I wonder if they had a serviceable receiver to trade straight up?

    WSS

  • Tyrod Taylor is a serviceable NFL quarterback and it shouldn't be long before somebody is going to lose one due to injury and be up against the wire. I wonder if they had a serviceable receiver to trade straight up?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Tyrod Taylor is a serviceable NFL quarterback and it shouldn't be long before somebody is going to lose one due to injury and be up against the wire. I wonder if they had a serviceable receiver to trade straight up?

    WSS

    Yeah the injury "Wheel of Misfortune", just wait things can change real fast. I would hang on to any servicable QB with any NFL experience. Hey what ever happened to that Stanton guy??? Give the wheel a spin and find out. 😆

  • New Redskins starting QB Josh Johnson is Browns alum too. Hopefully he can bounce the Tits this week.

    Zombo

  • New Redskins starting QB Josh Johnson is Browns alum too. Hopefully he can bounce the Tits this week.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    New Redskins starting QB Josh Johnson is Browns alum too. Hopefully he can bounce the Tits this week.

    Zombo

    I sure don't remember him.  Did he ever take a snap for the Browns...or was he just a camp invitee or PS player?