Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees
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The drafting of a Hall of Fame QB is NOT by any means a common occurrence. It actually, I believe, happens rarer than one might think. I believe that, on average, there may be only one drafted like every 3 years. Let's look at when they have been taken since the draft started in 1936:
1937 Sammy Baugh
1939 Sid Luckman
1944 Otto Graham and Bob Waterfield
1949 George Blanda and Norm Van Brocklin
1955 Johnny Unitas
1957 Len Dawson and Sonny Jurgenson
1961 Fran Tarkenton
1964 Roger Staubach
1967 Bob Griese
1968 Ken Stabler
1970 Terry Bradshaw
1973 Dan Fouts
1979 Joe Montana
1983 Elway, Marino, Kelly
1989 Troy Aikman
1991 Brett Favre..... He was the last QB drafted in the regular draft to make the HOF
(note....somewhere in there Steve Young was taken in the Supplemental draft)
So...in a 56 year time span only 21 (22 incl. Young) HOFs QBs came about.
After 1991, the next HOF QBs will be:
1998 Payton Manning
2000 Tom Brady
2001 Drew Brees
2004....possibles/probables Eli Manning, Ben R. Phillip Rivers.
2005 Aaron Rodgers
After Rodgers....can it be said that any other QB is a sure fire HOFer at QB?
The best bet in my mind is Russell Wilson. Others? Newton? Luck.
Point is, hopefully Mayfield will be one of those very rare finds that could one day be considered in that vein
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Nyet to Camshaft. Luck needs to win a Super Bowl and stay healthy. The QB class of 2018 might turn out like the Class of 1983 ( of course way early to tell). LOL, we may have to live to be 100 to find out.
Nyet to Camshaft. Luck needs to win a Super Bowl and stay healthy. The QB class of 2018 might turn out like the Class of 1983 ( of course way early to tell). LOL, we may have to live to be 100 to find out.
Remember 1999? It was going to be the next 1983......but it wasn't. 1-2 good ones...not quite HOF....and 3 meh?
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Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
4 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2018 0 8 13 134 210 206 117-89-0 4481 6939 54299 373 174 351 579 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 5 2005 1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB 21 GNB 2005 2018 2 7 10 128 163 156 99-56-1 3520 5432 42476 336 80 563 2907 25 California College Stats 6 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2018 1 4 11 120 172 172 100-72-0 4006 6131 46103 290 132 379 1142 8 Boston Col. College Stats 7 2004 1 11 Ben Roethlisberger QB 22 PIT 2004 2018 0 6 15 120 214 212 143-68-1 4552 7073 55527 359 189 464 1343 19 Miami (OH) College Stats 8 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2018 0 4 14 112 230 228 116-112-0 4755 7898 55371 357 237 308 558 6 Mississippi College Stats 9 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 10 1999 1 2 Donovan McNabb QB 22 PHI 1999 2011 0 6 11 107 167 161 98-62-1 3170 5374 37276 234 117 616 3459 29 Syracuse College Stats 11 1993 1 1 Drew Bledsoe QB 21 NWE 1993 2006 0 4 12 103 194 193 98-95-0 3839 6717 44611 251 206 385 764 10 Washington St. College Stats 12 1995 1 3 Steve McNair QB 22 HOU 1995 2 -
Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
4 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2018 0 8 13 134 210 206 117-89-0 4481 6939 54299 373 174 351 579 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 5 2005 1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB 21 GNB 2005 2018 2 7 10 128 163 156 99-56-1 3520 5432 42476 336 80 563 2907 25 California College Stats 6 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2018 1 4 11 120 172 172 100-72-0 4006 6131 46103 290 132 379 1142 8 Boston Col. College Stats 7 2004 1 11 Ben Roethlisberger QB 22 PIT 2004 2018 0 6 15 120 214 212 143-68-1 4552 7073 55527 359 189 464 1343 19 Miami (OH) College Stats 8 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2018 0 4 14 112 230 228 116-112-0 4755 7898 55371 357 237 308 558 6 Mississippi College Stats 9 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 10 1999 1 2 Donovan McNabb QB 22 PHI 1999 2011 0 6 11 107 167 161 98-62-1 3170 5374 37276 234 117 616 3459 29 Syracuse College Stats 11 1993 1 1 Drew Bledsoe QB 21 NWE 1993 2006 0 4 12 103 194 193 98-95-0 3839 6717 44611 251 206 385 764 10 Washington St. College Stats 12 1995 1 3 Steve McNair QB 22 HOU 1995 2 Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
4 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2018 0 8 13 134 210 206 117-89-0 4481 6939 54299 373 174 351 579 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 5 2005 1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB 21 GNB 2005 2018 2 7 10 128 163 156 99-56-1 3520 5432 42476 336 80 563 2907 25 California College Stats 6 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2018 1 4 11 120 172 172 100-72-0 4006 6131 46103 290 132 379 1142 8 Boston Col. College Stats 7 2004 1 11 Ben Roethlisberger QB 22 PIT 2004 2018 0 6 15 120 214 212 143-68-1 4552 7073 55527 359 189 464 1343 19 Miami (OH) College Stats 8 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2018 0 4 14 112 230 228 116-112-0 4755 7898 55371 357 237 308 558 6 Mississippi College Stats 9 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 10 1999 1 2 Donovan McNabb QB 22 PHI 1999 2011 0 6 11 107 167 161 98-62-1 3170 5374 37276 234 117 616 3459 29 Syracuse College Stats 11 1993 1 1 Drew Bledsoe QB 21 NWE 1993 2006 0 4 12 103 194 193 98-95-0 3839 6717 44611 251 206 385 764 10 Washington St. College Stats 12 1995 1 3 Steve McNair QB 22 HOU 1995 2 Borderline sounds about right to me...
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McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
No on all of them. IMO
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Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
4 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2018 0 8 13 134 210 206 117-89-0 4481 6939 54299 373 174 351 579 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 5 2005 1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB 21 GNB 2005 2018 2 7 10 128 163 156 99-56-1 3520 5432 42476 336 80 563 2907 25 California College Stats 6 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2018 1 4 11 120 172 172 100-72-0 4006 6131 46103 290 132 379 1142 8 Boston Col. College Stats 7 2004 1 11 Ben Roethlisberger QB 22 PIT 2004 2018 0 6 15 120 214 212 143-68-1 4552 7073 55527 359 189 464 1343 19 Miami (OH) College Stats 8 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2018 0 4 14 112 230 228 116-112-0 4755 7898 55371 357 237 308 558 6 Mississippi College Stats 9 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 10 1999 1 2 Donovan McNabb QB 22 PHI 1999 2011 0 6 11 107 167 161 98-62-1 3170 5374 37276 234 117 616 3459 29 Syracuse College Stats 11 1993 1 1 Drew Bledsoe QB 21 NWE 1993 2006 0 4 12 103 194 193 98-95-0 3839 6717 44611 251 206 385 764 10 Washington St. College Stats 12 1995 1 3 Steve McNair QB 22 HOU 1995 2 Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
He will always live in the shadow of Big Brother Gip- that's what will kill his HOF credentials....
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Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
Who else is borderline?
McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
What about Matt Ryan?
Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
He will always live in the shadow of Big Brother Gip- that's what will kill his HOF credentials....
He will always live in the shadow of Big Brother Gip- that's what will kill his HOF credentials....
You mean Eli? Eli is still healthy.....and could reach his brothers career numbers if he continues to play.
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Nyet to Camshaft. Luck needs to win a Super Bowl and stay healthy. The QB class of 2018 might turn out like the Class of 1983 ( of course way early to tell). LOL, we may have to live to be 100 to find out.
Remember 1999? It was going to be the next 1983......but it wasn't. 1-2 good ones...not quite HOF....and 3 meh?
Remember 1999? It was going to be the next 1983......but it wasn't. 1-2 good ones...not quite HOF....and 3 meh?
True. The toughest most important piece in all of team sports is an NFL franchise quarterback.
Hard to believe that class of 1983 was 35 years ago, I was a spry 33 year old then.
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McNabb? Bledsoe? Testaverde? Carson Palmer? McNair?
No on all of them. IMO
Mcnabb and Matt Ryan are both a yes from me. The rest are no.
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You mean Eli? Eli is still healthy.....and could reach his brothers career numbers if he continues to play.
He won't. And he needs at least 4 more top years, and my bet is he won't stay healty either. Payton 72,000 yards, Eli 55,000. Payton 539 TDs, Eli 357, QBR Payton 96, Eli 84. If it wasn't for the all time miracle catch in the Super Bowl, he'd be one short there too.
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You mean Eli? Eli is still healthy.....and could reach his brothers career numbers if he continues to play.
He won't. And he needs at least 4 more top years, and my bet is he won't stay healty either. Payton 72,000 yards, Eli 55,000. Payton 539 TDs, Eli 357, QBR Payton 96, Eli 84. If it wasn't for the all time miracle catch in the Super Bowl, he'd be one short there too.
He won't. And he needs at least 4 more top years, and my bet is he won't stay healty either. Payton 72,000 yards, Eli 55,000. Payton 539 TDs, Eli 357, QBR Payton 96, Eli 84. If it wasn't for the all time miracle catch in the Super Bowl, he'd be one short there too.
I guess I didn’t realize he was that far behind in yards and touchdowns.
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Big ben and eli manning are lock 1st ballot hall of Fame guys. Theres no maybe about that.
Newton will be really interesting. His career stats assuming hes got 4-5 more years will be unlike any other QB in a good way. He wont get in 1st ballot but we shall see.
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