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  • Some of the biggest names:

    Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State

    Ed Oliver, DT, Houston 

    Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

    Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

    Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

    Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

    Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State

    Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame

    Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn

    Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Some of the biggest names:

    Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State 

    Ed Oliver, DT, Houston 

    Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

    Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

    Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

    Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

    Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State

    Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame

    Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn

    Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

  • Raekwon

  • Free agents:

    Grady Jarrett, DT, Falcons. Age: 26. 

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    Grady Jarrett is one of the top 4-3 defensive tackles in the NFL. He's absolutely dominant in the interior, both as a pass rusher and a run stopper. He's turns just 26 in April, so he could continue to improve his game. He's set to earn a huge contract soon. 

    Sheldon Richardson, DT, Vikings. Age: 28. 

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    Sheldon Richardson is an extremely talented defensive lineman, playing very strongly in the pass rush and run defense. He can play in both the 4-3 and 3-4, so he should garner tons of interest if he gets to the open market. 

    Michael Pierce (RFA), NT, Ravens. Age: 26.

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    Michael Pierce is an elite run-stuffer. He doesn't generate much of a pass rush, but he's not completely lost in that regard. He's also young, as he won't turn 27 until around Thanksgiving. 

     
    David Irving, DT, Cowboys. Age: 26
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     David Irving was dominant down the stretch in 2016, and he proved that wasn't a fluke the year after. He was limited to just eight games because of a concussion and a suspension, but he was terrific in those eight contests, registering seven sacks, which is a high number for a player at his position in a full 16-game slate. Irving barely played in 2018 because of injury. However, he's just 26 in August, so he should continue to improve his game. 
     
    Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT, Packers. Age:29
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    From 2012 to 2015, Muhammad Wilkerson was considered a top-five 3-4 defensive end. It could've even been argued that he was the second-best player at his position in the entire league, behind only J.J. Watt. Wilkerson was rewarded with a 5-year, $87 million deal in the summer of 2016. Wilkerson mailed it in after that, then was cut. Wilkerson joined the Packers and played very well for three games before suffering a season-ending injury. Wilkerson isn't 30 yet, so he could continue to play on a high level for a team that has a strong locker room. 
    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DT.php
  • I would love to see Grady and a draft pick to help on the interior.

  • What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

  • What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    43 Under.

  • Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Each of the FA come with questions.

    Wilkerson doesn't care about football.. Pierce is basically Snacks Harrison v2.0 .. Can Irving be injury-free.. The others will be tagged

  • @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    43 Under.

    @tiamat63 said:

    43 Under.

    How do you know that?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    43 Under.

    How do you know that?

    @orion said:

    How do you know that?

    I don't.  I'm just being a smart ass and suggesting something that would appease both crowds of speculation. 

  • What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

  • Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Each of the FA come with questions.

    Wilkerson doesn't care about football.. Pierce is basically Snacks Harrison v2.0 .. Can Irving be injury-free.. The others will be tagged

    @unsympathetic said:

    Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

    Schwartz wanted to stay here, but the front office in charge at the time low-balled him and refused to budge... by the time they did, Schwartz basically told them to go piss up a rope. Trust me, Doug Dieken brings this up on the regular. 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Some of the biggest names:

    Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State 

    Ed Oliver, DT, Houston 

    Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

    Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

    Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

    Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

    Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State

    Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame

    Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn

    Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

  • @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

    We'd franchise him before we let that happen. But I also agree we are likely to stay 4-3.

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

    @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Could play all over.  Weak side end in a  over front,  interior,  base end.    He's another player you have to move around a bit for maximum effectiveness. 

  • Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? 

    And the draft capital to get the one they want.

  • What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    How can anyone know....since we won't know who our DC will be?   If they do not keep Williams as HC...then everything is up in the air.

    Fair to say?

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

    @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    @the-gipper said:

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    *crickets*

  • @the-gipper said:

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    *crickets*

    @mld-woody said:

    *crickets*

    Exactly....all these  Michitweeners who can't really fill a position?  All chirp...no chomp.