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  • OrionO Orion

    @tiamat63 said:

    43 Under.

    How do you know that?

    @orion said:

    How do you know that?

    I don't.  I'm just being a smart ass and suggesting something that would appease both crowds of speculation. 

  • OrionO Orion

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

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  • U Unsympathetic

    Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Each of the FA come with questions.

    Wilkerson doesn't care about football.. Pierce is basically Snacks Harrison v2.0 .. Can Irving be injury-free.. The others will be tagged

    @unsympathetic said:

    Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

    @unsympathetic said:

    Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value.  People seem to forget that on this board..

    We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do..

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Cmon man!  That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time.

    Schwartz wanted to stay here, but the front office in charge at the time low-balled him and refused to budge... by the time they did, Schwartz basically told them to go piss up a rope. Trust me, Doug Dieken brings this up on the regular. 

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  • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Some of the biggest names:

    Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State 

    Ed Oliver, DT, Houston 

    Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

    Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

    Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

    Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

    Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State

    Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame

    Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn

    Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    tiamat63T The GipperT 2 Replies
  • C Clevfan4life

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. 

    We'd franchise him before we let that happen. But I also agree we are likely to stay 4-3.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

    @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Could play all over.  Weak side end in a  over front,  interior,  base end.    He's another player you have to move around a bit for maximum effectiveness. 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? 

    And the draft capital to get the one they want.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply
  • OrionO Orion

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    @orion said:

    What defensive scheme will we be running next year?      4-3,     3-4   ??

    How can anyone know....since we won't know who our DC will be?   If they do not keep Williams as HC...then everything is up in the air.

    Fair to say?

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today.

    Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects.

    Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work.

    Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players.

    I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher

    I think Gary will shift inside

    @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    I think Gary will shift inside

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    @the-gipper said:

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    *crickets*

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @the-gipper said:

    Another Michifucker without a true position to play?  Can't we get a real player?

    *crickets*

    @mld-woody said:

    *crickets*

    Exactly....all these  Michitweeners who can't really fill a position?  All chirp...no chomp.

  • Saw a few tweets relative to this thread. Edge rushers aren’t going  anywhere of course but thought it was interesting nonetheless 

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  • Taking away interior pressure is a different animal and incredibly difficult to do as opposed to edge defenders.   When you face somebody that strong, fast, technique sound and moves all over the formation....   It's the most challenging thing for a QB because they have no pocket to step up into.   You generally have to win with either talent or adjusting your passing and running game to slow down that first step.

  • I think Dre' Mont Jones would be a great pick. Dorsey doesn't seem to mind bringing in buckeyes. He looked good with Bosa. Garrett, Jones, Ojunobi and Ogbah would be nasty!

  • A AP1

    @the-gipper said:

    Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? 

    And the draft capital to get the one they want.

    @ap1 said:

    And the draft capital to get the one they want.

    There are enough that we probably don't need to move up, but who knows?

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @ap1 said:

    And the draft capital to get the one they want.

    There are enough that we probably don't need to move up, but who knows?

    @ballpeen said:

    There are enough that we probably don't need to move up, but who knows?

    But if it's White we want from LSU as ILB as our 1st-it will require a moveup.

  • Jeffrey Simmons, the first prospect on the list from Mississippi State, looks like an athletic force in the middle. 

    Derrick Brown from Auburn, who looks as much like a freak LB as he does a lineman, made some impressive plays for the Tigers:

    Quinnen Williams, apparently a “the best d-lineman and top 3 draft pick “

    Christian Wilkins: this guy can flat out play, and looks similar to Quinnen Williams with his size and athleticism. 

    Dexter Lawrence, at 6’5”, 350, is just a brick wall to insert into the lineup: 

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  • (Continued from page 1 post on DTs)

    And last, but certainly not least, Ed Oliver. A polarizing prospect. With great feet and explosive strength, not great length(6’3 290). My only concern is the weaker competition that Houston played, you can see the whole O-Line blown up on some these highlights.

    Around the 3:40 mark, you’ll see an impressive display of athleticism from Oliver, who looks VERY twitchy.

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