The Combine
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My above two post look like I'm criticizing Murray a lot but I am thrilled to death that he measured in at what he did because that is at least one more player not at a position of Need For Us that is definitely going to be taken before we draft at seventeen which means one guy that does fit for us may fall one extra spot.
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I was expecting Murray to weigh in at less than 200. He obviously bulked up. Will he run the 40 at that weight?
But Baker is 3" taller. OK, he's Russell Wilson sized- but he sure doesn't have Wilson's build.
Just glad we don't have to worry about drafting him. If we were in the QB market this year, I'd be wanting Dwayne Haskins instead, and it wouldn't even be close.
My point is small doesn't matter anymore. The spread has entered the NFL as I predicted 10 years ago. Don't underestimate Murray because he seems short.
I'd take Murray over Haskins. He's a better player.
My point is small doesn't matter anymore. The spread has entered the NFL as I predicted 10 years ago. Don't underestimate Murray because he seems short.
I'd take Murray over Haskins. He's a better player.
Sorry if I'm an Ohio State Homer. Care to bet? I have Haskins going ahead of Murray. (just about every mock I've seen does too) Saw plenty of Dwayne. Scouts rave about his football IQ, Mayfield level arm, he's plenty accurate enough, and mobile enough. To my mind Kyler is a smaller version of Lamar Jackson, maybe a tad more accuracy. He tries running like Jackson, assuming he de-bulks- he's gonna get killed in short order. Checking- Lamar is 6' 3", 212, and didn't have to bulk up to get to that weight...
Yes, it does. Just dismissing it yet despite a lot of evidence to the contrary...? Not wise.
Too early to say (with only Russell Wilson as the current outlier) that less than 6' for a qb doesn't matter anymore. Murray succeeds, scouts and NFL GMs will start changing their minds.
Another thing about Murray in comparison to Mayfield is Baker had a lot more college starts than Kyler. Yeah, I know Trubisky was another of the outliers in the Parcells' major predictors of NFL success... But then Mitch is 6' 2", and I raved about his accuracy coming out...
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A lot of people on this board were saying much the same about Baker last year.
Time will tell if Murray will be good or not.
Murray and Baker are similar in that they are both shorter stature and both played quarterback at Oklahoma. As far as actually throwing the ball Dwayne Haskins and Baker much more similar. In NFL obviously you have to have a strong arm but not a cannon just strong enough to get ball in tight windows. The NFL is going more towards accuracy and those two guys are both very accurate. Kyler put up good numbers accuracy wise but it was because he extended a lot of plays outside the pocket and that is a lot harder to do at the NFL level. he didn't throw with great accuracy from inside the pocket.
Kyler didn't throw with great accuracy from inside the pocket.
But then Mitch is 6' 2", and I raved about his accuracy coming out...
well,Mitch did find a new receiver... https://bustedcoverage.com/2019/02/26/mitch-trubisky-new-girlfriend/ 50/50 to complete
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Combine starts this morning with RB's and OL's. Oh yeah and kickers/special teamers.
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Dorsey loves explosion at OL.. Andre Dillard who we interviewed is 6'5" 315 with a 1.70 10 yard split(that's like sick at 315) 4.99 40( 2nd 40= 1.69/4.97)..we have a 40 time leader at T..Bradberry is so dang smooth also (A.Mack 2.0) both OL group 1 winners. did not like the open hips nor kick feet of Cajuste,Deiter nor Edwards
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Remember that Aggie center I said had the speed and pulling ability for G or C in the NFL? EriK McCoy just posted the fastest 40 time for OL's in the combine this year @ 4.90. If we have other needs in DL and/or ILB taken care of in FA, we need to seriously consider this very versatile OL for the Browns. DJ likes him a lot. Also smart enough to have graduated early and is coming out after his Jr year. He ran the OL on the field. I think he is talented enough to play from the C thru G to RT. We know versatility is one thing Buddy Boy is looking for.
Edit 2nd run was 4.89 and still fastest.
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Remember that Aggie center I said had the speed and pulling ability for G or C in the NFL? EriK McCoy just posted the fastest 40 time for OL's in the combine this year @ 4.90. If we have other needs in DL and/or ILB taken care of in FA, we need to seriously consider this very versatile OL for the Browns. DJ likes him a lot. Also smart enough to have graduated early and is coming out after his Jr year. He ran the OL on the field. I think he is talented enough to play from the C thru G to RT. We know versatility is one thing Buddy Boy is looking for.
Edit 2nd run was 4.89 and still fastest.
Remember that Aggie center I said had the speed and pulling ability for G or C in the NFL? EriK McCoy just posted the fastest 40 time for OL's in the combine this year @ 4.90. If we have other needs in DL and/or ILB taken care of in FA, we need to seriously consider this very versatile OL for the Browns. DJ likes him a lot. Also smart enough to have graduated early and is coming out after his Jr year. He ran the OL on the field. I think he is talented enough to play from the C thru G to RT. We know versatility is one thing Buddy Boy is looking for.
Edit 2nd run was 4.89 and still fastest.
Targeting him will depend on Dorsey's opinion on how well he thinks Corbett can play center- he's currently listed as Bitonio's backup at guard. I doubt McCoy will be there in the third round. MHO is we need to look at upgrades on DL, CB, LB, and maybe WR before we start worrying about OL depth. And yup, some mocks have us taking one of the top OTs in the first round....
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am not even eliminating TE from this deep TE class..we know jd is not thrilled with njoku blocking. DeValve is more than replaceable in this draft & not known for his blocking (or lasting a season)..we rolled several TE's thru PS last season & Fells is 32 at 2.6M this next season going to 3.6 in 2020. Orson Charlse is a RFA now at age 28..a Blocking Catching TE would not be a surprise if some fall to 5th..
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Kid from Iowa, Fant, just ran a 4.51. Hot damn.
match-up nightmare..size,speed, high jumper in HS. a sneaky good choice on Freddies staff is OQCC Jim Dray..school of Ferentz blocking can't hurt..interested to see Fant's 3-cone ? (6.81)? edit--this TE coach running drills..he's solid..Irv Smith jr. does gauntlet drills in his sleep(sick smooth)
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bring it Paris Campbell...4.32
️?️luv mid-rounders making some dollars today
Akron St. Vincent St. Mary
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Akron St. Vincent St. Mary
Do you see now why I was " banging the drum for a 6 round Prospect". Because if Hakeem Butler were available in the 6 round that would be the steal of the draft.
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Well, if you're looking at another vertical threat for speed alone - Parris Campbell is certainly on the Browns radar. Was incredibly surprised by his footwork. It's fantastic and smooth. Kid can play all over the formation and will be a real steal. Might end up being a Santonio Holmes type deal and slides into the 1st round.
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I know Parris is only about 6' tall, but his ability is huge. But he's a football player, and could be as much a surprise
as Michael Thomas, though Thomas was 6'3"
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Rewatched Haskins throws. You can forget about Murray being the 1st QB off the board unless Kingsbury wants to commit career suicide.
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Haskins is a traditional QB. Murray is more of a fit in Kingsbury’s offense which is why the belief if Murray going number 1 and Cardinals possibly trading Rosen. (Dolphins maybe)
Campbell has blazing speed. Just send him on a drag route and get the ball in his hands.
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I didn't watch. Who ran the gauntlet the best? (that tells who can 'really' catch the ball)
youtube it or it will be on again & again up to 9am sunday..hard to tell, it was done well..TE's Irv Smith jr slightly over Fant maybe..Loads of mid round WR's did well..(ya got to see Steve Smith tell the QB from buffalo to "ice up son, on them lasers from 10 yards" ?)
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