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  • CLEVELandMILIDH C
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    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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    Encourging news, Fausto pitches a 1 hitter in first rehab start

    EASTLAKE, OH - Rehabbing Major League starting pitcher Fausto Carmona dominated for six and one third innings against the Hagerstown Suns (0-1) on Thursday night, leading the Lake County Captains (1-0) to a 5-1 victory.

    Hagerstown managed just one hit and one walk against the righthander, with Steve Lombardozzi's lone single coming in the top of the sixth inning.

    Carmona (1-0) picked up the win and struck out seven in his first rehab appearance for the Cleveland Indians.

    Ricardo Pecina (0-1) took the loss for Hagerstown, though the lefthander actually through very well for four innings. The only blemish on Pecina's line through four was a solo home run hit by Chris Nash in the bottom of the second inning, giving the Captains a 1-0 lead.

    Pecina got into trouble, however, in the fifth inning, as four runs came around to score. Three of the runs were credited to Pecina while reliever Patrick Arnold was responsible for one.

    The lone run for Hagerstown came in the top of the ninth inning when Valerio Heredia singled, advanced to second on a balk, took third due to defensive indifference and eventually scored on an error.

    Inclement weather delayed the first pitch of the game by one hour and four minutes.

    http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/r...ses/?id=3849789

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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      Shit if I would of know that I would of went.

      Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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        Looks like he's on his way...here's his line for tonight

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          C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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          Finished his Columbus outing, here's the line

          faustat2.jpg

          And the Indian's Prospect Insider (via the DiaTribe) had this to say about Fausto's comeback...

          http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

          http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009...nt-impress.html

          To that end, Al Ciammaichella over at Tony Lastoria’s Indians’ Prospect Insider attended Carmona’s rehab start for Akron in Bowie and while Fausto’s stat line certainly looked good (7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K), Al went that extra mile after the contest and called the Bowie Bay Sox director of media relations to see if he could speak to Bowie manager Brad Komminsk (yes, that one…the old Aeros’ manager) and his coaching staff about Carmona, his stuff, and the Bowie hitters approach to Carmona.

          Here’s the report from the Bowie side via Al at his post at IPI:

          When I asked Komminsk what he thought about Fausto’s start, the first thing he said was, “that is just not the same Fausto.” He said that Fausto used to be a power pitcher, aggressively attacking hitters with his fastball to set up his devastating sinker as his out pitch. He thinks that Carmona is a good 8 MPH slower on average with his pitches, and is trying to be a finesse guy. He mentioned a couple of times that all Carmona really did was do a good job getting a poor-hitting AA team out for 7 innings (Bowie’s roster doesn't have much in the way of position player prospects now that Brandon Snyder has been called up to AAA). I asked him and hitting coach Moe Hill if they told their hitters to make any adjustments for Fausto (lay off the sinker, make him throw strikes etc), and they both said no.

          Komminsk, Hill and pitching coach Larry McCall all said that his sinker was nothing special Tuesday night. McCall did say that Carmona’s slider was better Tuesday night than he remembered, but he could’'t understand why Carmona has gotten away from throwing his changeup, which McCall thought could be an out pitch for him. McCall and Hill agreed with Komminsk that Carmona had gotten away from his power-pitching mentality; McCall even went as far as to say that Carmona looked like a “right-handed Jeremy Sowers out there.” Ouch. Komminsk and Hill both said that the strike zone was “huge” in the game for Carmona, and Komminsk said he thought that Carlos Santana framed the ball well enough behind the plate to get Carmona a number of borderline pitches that shouldn't have been called strikes.

          Komminsk seemed almost frustrated with Carmona’s outing. He said that Carmona was one of the best pitchers he has coached, and can’t understand why he has gotten away from the power pitching mentality that made him so successful. McCall closed our conversation by telling me that he thought Carmona was better when he saw him pitch for the K-Tribe several years ago in Kinston than he was last night.

          Tremendous stuff from Al, but…oof.

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            Finished his Columbus outing, here's the line

            faustat2.jpg

            And the Indian's Prospect Insider (via the DiaTribe) had this to say about Fausto's comeback...

            http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

            http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009...nt-impress.html

            To that end, Al Ciammaichella over at Tony Lastoria’s Indians’ Prospect Insider attended Carmona’s rehab start for Akron in Bowie and while Fausto’s stat line certainly looked good (7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K), Al went that extra mile after the contest and called the Bowie Bay Sox director of media relations to see if he could speak to Bowie manager Brad Komminsk (yes, that one…the old Aeros’ manager) and his coaching staff about Carmona, his stuff, and the Bowie hitters approach to Carmona.

            Here’s the report from the Bowie side via Al at his post at IPI:

            When I asked Komminsk what he thought about Fausto’s start, the first thing he said was, “that is just not the same Fausto.” He said that Fausto used to be a power pitcher, aggressively attacking hitters with his fastball to set up his devastating sinker as his out pitch. He thinks that Carmona is a good 8 MPH slower on average with his pitches, and is trying to be a finesse guy. He mentioned a couple of times that all Carmona really did was do a good job getting a poor-hitting AA team out for 7 innings (Bowie’s roster doesn't have much in the way of position player prospects now that Brandon Snyder has been called up to AAA). I asked him and hitting coach Moe Hill if they told their hitters to make any adjustments for Fausto (lay off the sinker, make him throw strikes etc), and they both said no.

            Komminsk, Hill and pitching coach Larry McCall all said that his sinker was nothing special Tuesday night. McCall did say that Carmona’s slider was better Tuesday night than he remembered, but he could’'t understand why Carmona has gotten away from throwing his changeup, which McCall thought could be an out pitch for him. McCall and Hill agreed with Komminsk that Carmona had gotten away from his power-pitching mentality; McCall even went as far as to say that Carmona looked like a “right-handed Jeremy Sowers out there.” Ouch. Komminsk and Hill both said that the strike zone was “huge” in the game for Carmona, and Komminsk said he thought that Carlos Santana framed the ball well enough behind the plate to get Carmona a number of borderline pitches that shouldn't have been called strikes.

            Komminsk seemed almost frustrated with Carmona’s outing. He said that Carmona was one of the best pitchers he has coached, and can’t understand why he has gotten away from the power pitching mentality that made him so successful. McCall closed our conversation by telling me that he thought Carmona was better when he saw him pitch for the K-Tribe several years ago in Kinston than he was last night.

            Tremendous stuff from Al, but…oof.

            SoCalBrownsFan SoCalBrownsFanS
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            SoCalBrownsFanS SoCalBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @cimo. said:

            Finished his Columbus outing, here's the line

            faustat2.jpg

            And the Indian's Prospect Insider (via the DiaTribe) had this to say about Fausto's comeback...

            http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

            http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009...nt-impress.html

            Doesn't sound like Carmona is throwing with overpowering stuff, only getting out bad hitters in the minors. It sounds like he has totally changed the way he pitches, which doesn't seem to fit his stuff. Based on this report, it doesn't look good for his MLB career, hopefully it's wrong.

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              @cimo. said:

              Finished his Columbus outing, here's the line

              faustat2.jpg

              And the Indian's Prospect Insider (via the DiaTribe) had this to say about Fausto's comeback...

              http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

              http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009...nt-impress.html

              Doesn't sound like Carmona is throwing with overpowering stuff, only getting out bad hitters in the minors. It sounds like he has totally changed the way he pitches, which doesn't seem to fit his stuff. Based on this report, it doesn't look good for his MLB career, hopefully it's wrong.

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              Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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              @socalbrownsfan said:

              Doesn't sound like Carmona is throwing with overpowering stuff, only getting out bad hitters in the minors. It sounds like he has totally changed the way he pitches, which doesn't seem to fit his stuff. Based on this report, it doesn't look good for his MLB career, hopefully it's wrong.

              Carmona does have some mechancial problems but you can change everything and it won't help until you get his head straight.

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                @cimo. said:

                Finished his Columbus outing, here's the line

                faustat2.jpg

                And the Indian's Prospect Insider (via the DiaTribe) had this to say about Fausto's comeback...

                http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

                http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009...nt-impress.html

                Doesn't sound like Carmona is throwing with overpowering stuff, only getting out bad hitters in the minors. It sounds like he has totally changed the way he pitches, which doesn't seem to fit his stuff. Based on this report, it doesn't look good for his MLB career, hopefully it's wrong.

                CLEVELandMILIDH C
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                C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                @socalbrownsfan said:

                Doesn't sound like Carmona is throwing with overpowering stuff, only getting out bad hitters in the minors. It sounds like he has totally changed the way he pitches, which doesn't seem to fit his stuff. Based on this report, it doesn't look good for his MLB career, hopefully it's wrong.

                I no in the majors he was trying to overthrow his sinker and thats why it didnt have the movement it use to. Once he couldnt locate the sinker he'd try to throw the fastball by you and he'd leave it up in the zone and they would tee of on it.

                Maybe in the minors they've been working on taking something off of his pitches and relying more on location, and work his way back up to being a power pitcher after he know's how to locate

                1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                  C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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                  He's getting hammered tonight. 8 hits, 5 earned, 1 strikeout through 5 innings.

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                    Fausto Carmona allowed two runs in seven innings while Tony Graffanino and Andy Marte hit home runs to lift the Clippers to a 7-2 victory over the Syracuse Chiefs tonight in Huntington Park.

                    Carmona (1-1) was making his third start for Columbus and his first in the new home ballpark in front of a crowd of 9,377 that included Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro. He kept the Chiefs off the scoreboard through the first six innings but lost the shutout on a leadoff home run by Brad Eldred in the seventh. The win snapped a three-game losing streak.

                    http://blog.dispatch.com/clippers/

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                      Kai Igawa pitched seven shutout innings and Yurendell de Caster hit a solo home run to lead the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees to a 2-1 victory over the Clippers tonight in Huntington Park.

                      Igawa outlasted Columbus starter Fausto Carmona, who turned in his strongest performance in four starts since joining the Clippers. Carmona allowed two runs and five hits over seven innings. He recorded 12 groundball outs and struck out eight. He walked only one.

                      Colin Carter opened the seventh for the Yankees with a double to the gap in right-center. It was only the fourth fly ball that Scranton hitters had managed against Carmona.

                      After Francisco Cervelli struck out, Carmona threw a wild pitch to move Carter to third base. Eric Duncan grounded to Head at first base and Carter beat his throw home to give Igawa a 2-0 lead.

                      http://blog.dispatch.com/clippers/2009/07/...en_shutou.shtml

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                        C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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                        Seems to be he'll be starting tomorrow against Edwin Jackson. Here's the full line for his minor league stint...

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                          SoCalBrownsFanS SoCalBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          Hopefully Fausto can get it together and pitch well, because without Lee on the staff anymore, we need him to step up.

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                            Seems to be he'll be starting tomorrow against Edwin Jackson. Here's the full line for his minor league stint...

                            faustat5.jpg

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                            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                            @cimo. said:

                            Seems to be he'll be starting tomorrow against Edwin Jackson. Here's the full line for his minor league stint...

                            faustat5.jpg

                            Not bad actually. What is encouraging is the walks to strikeout ratio. I know it's the minors and only 33 innings, but it's almost the same ratio as 07. It's encouraging at least.

                            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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