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  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #56

     Buzz off kid, and at my age most everybody is a kid so don't take that as a big insult.  I was a teenager in 1964 , just driving a car when we last won a championship.  If you are a contemporary , I'll call you Gramps rather than kid.   I can't help it you don't get it.    In your example, I might, it just  depends on if the sweetener was something I needed.  I think Dukes value is in a package deal.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea...well....you went to the same high school as Chuck Noll......nuff said there.  (and I was born in the same town as Bo Schembechler....so nuff said there also)

    LOL, but did you go to the same high school as Bo is the question? Just being born in a town, in my case Cleveland- covers a lot of celebrities, sports and otherwise.  🙂  Chuck may be our most famous alum, but those who follow golf have heard of Tom Weiskopf. #2 famous alum. Tom drove the green and aced a par 4 when he was on the golf team.   

    The currently unemployed Najee Goode (formerly of the Eagles) is another of our guys that made it to the NFL.  

    PS, not only did I go to the same HS as Noll, I followed him down the road here to the University of Dayton. BTW, Jon Gruden is also a UD grad. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #57

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, but did you go to the same high school as Bo is the question? Just being born in a town, in my case Cleveland- covers a lot of celebrities, sports and otherwise.  🙂  Chuck may be our most famous alum, but those who follow golf have heard of Tom Weiskopf. #2 famous alum. Tom drove the green and aced a par 4 when he was on the golf team.   

    The currently unemployed Najee Goode (formerly of the Eagles) is another of our guys that made it to the NFL.  

    PS, not only did I go to the same HS as Noll, I followed him down the road here to the University of Dayton. BTW, Jon Gruden is also a UD grad. 

    No,  he went to Barberton,  I went to Norton, right next door.  My HS doesn't really have any famous alum....unless you consider a Playboy Playmate as famous:

    Sandra Hubby:

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    Beat that with that All Boys school you went to.

  • @gunz41 said:

    I understood your point. But it makes no sense when combined with your other statement. How is a "dime a dozen, worth a 7th rounder" become a 3rd round pick sweetener to move to 2nd? 

    You don't have to assign someone a value to see how that makes no sense. Nobody would be good with trading a 2nd round pick for a 3rd and 7th. Let's just use an example here for context. Are you cool with the Browns trading pick 49 for pick 65 and 248 (Arizona 3rd and 7th)? Or let's use this, you good with pick 49 for pick 65 and 174 (the top picks in 3rd and 6th).

    People can have their own opinions on someone's value, and those can differ. If someone had the opinion that Duke had a 3rd round value, then they could make a case for a move up like that. But when you offer up an opinion that someone has very little value, you can't turn around and say he has good value to fit a narrative

    No, you don't understand my point.  I said Duke could be the sweetener.  I don't sit around with a draft value chart when I type.  I never though that Duke and  a 3rd rounder would get us in to the 2nd round.  I said Duke could sweeten the deal...I assumed most would understand it would probably take another pick, especially since I said he is a dime a dozen player..

    I also wasn't the one who said he was worth a 7th round flip.  I think he has more value than that, especially as the guy to tip the scale in our favor towards a trade.  Read the words man.

    Look, I like Duke and wanted to keep him until he started asking for a trade.....and really, I still like him.  To me he like a Theo Reddick....a decent player, but not somebody you can't easily replace.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
    #58

    @ballpeen said:

    I also wasn't the one who said he was worth a 7th round flip.  I think he has more value than that,

    That was me...kinda'.  I was asking what Duke's value was.  And I guess I'm still asking.  What is Duke's trade value?    I don't know of a Trade Value Chart for players.

    ...answering my own ?  -   Duke's value is intangible as it would be different for different teams.   

  •  Buzz off kid, and at my age most everybody is a kid so don't take that as a big insult.  I was a teenager in 1964 , just driving a car when we last won a championship.  If you are a contemporary , I'll call you Gramps rather than kid.   I can't help it you don't get it.    In your example, I might, it just  depends on if the sweetener was something I needed.  I think Dukes value is in a package deal.

    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
    #59

    @ballpeen said:

     Buzz off kid, and at my age most everybody is a kid so don't take that as a big insult.  I was a teenager in 1964 , just driving a car when we last won a championship.  If you are a contemporary , I'll call you Gramps rather than kid.   I can't help it you don't get it.    In your example, I might, it just  depends on if the sweetener was something I needed.  I think Dukes value is in a package deal.

    What your value for him is really isn't important, neither is mine. The point is, whether it was your intention or not (which it seems like it wasn't), your post read as the Browns 3rd round pick and Duke to move up to 2nd round. You don't seem to see that, but you know what you were trying to convey.

    From someone else's POV, it looks like you meant Duke and 3rd to move up. There is no mention or insinuation of anything else.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #60
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      12  GB 1200   44  GB 460   76  WAS 210   114  GB 66   150  GB 31   185  GB 17   226  GB 1.1
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                    100  CAR 100   138  PHI 36.5          209  MIN 7.4   250  MIN 1
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                    102  BAL 92                 211  CIN 6.6   252  NE 1
                                         212  SF 6.2   253  WAS 1
                                         213  CIN 5.8   254  ARI 1
                                         214  KC 5.4       
  • @ballpeen said:

     Buzz off kid, and at my age most everybody is a kid so don't take that as a big insult.  I was a teenager in 1964 , just driving a car when we last won a championship.  If you are a contemporary , I'll call you Gramps rather than kid.   I can't help it you don't get it.    In your example, I might, it just  depends on if the sweetener was something I needed.  I think Dukes value is in a package deal.

    What your value for him is really isn't important, neither is mine. The point is, whether it was your intention or not (which it seems like it wasn't), your post read as the Browns 3rd round pick and Duke to move up to 2nd round. You don't seem to see that, but you know what you were trying to convey.

    From someone else's POV, it looks like you meant Duke and 3rd to move up. There is no mention or insinuation of anything else.

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @gunz41 said:

    What your value for him is really isn't important, neither is mine. The point is, whether it was your intention or not (which it seems like it wasn't), your post read as the Browns 3rd round pick and Duke to move up to 2nd round. You don't seem to see that, but you know what you were trying to convey.

    From someone else's POV, it looks like you meant Duke and 3rd to move up. There is no mention or insinuation of anything else.

    I clarified a bit later.  At any rate, what is important is what some other team feels Dukes value to them would be worth.  To us he might be viewed as an insurance policy while to another team he might be viewed as a starter, not to mention no matter what rounds value points you or I might assign Duke, being a proven player his value would reflect somewhat higher.  How much higher?   I guess it depends on the team.

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                                         214  KC 5.4       
    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @orion said:

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      21  SEA 800   53  PHI 370   85  BAL 165   123  BAL 49   159  SEA 27.4   194  GB 13.4   235  OAK 1
      22  BAL 780   54  HOU 360   86  HOU 160   124  SEA 48   160  BAL 27   195  HOU 13   236  JAX 1
      23  HOU 760   55  HOU 350   87  CHI 155   125  DEN 47   161  HOU 26.6   196  NYJ 12.6   237  DEN 1
      24  OAK 740   56  NE 340   88  DET 150   126  CHI 46   162  CHI 26.2   197  PHI 12.2   238  CHI 1
      25  PHI 720   57  PHI 330   89  IND 145   127  PHI 45   163  PHI 25.8   198  CIN 11.8   239  NE 1
      26  IND 700   58  DAL 320   90  DAL 140   128  DAL 44   164  IND 25.4   199  IND 11.4   240  IND 1
      27  OAK 680   59  IND 310   91  LAC 136   129  IND 43   165  DAL 25   200  LAC 11   241  DAL 1
      28  LAC 660   60  LAC 300   92  SEA 132   130  LAC 42   166  LAC 24.6   201  KC 10.6   242  LAC 1
      29  SEA 640   61  KC 292   93  NYJ 128   131  BUF 41   167  KC 24.2   202  NO 10.2   243  NE 1
      30  GB 620   62  NO 284   94  LAR 124   132  NYG 40   168  NO 23.8   203  LAR 9.8   244  NO 1
      31  LAR 600   63  KC 276   95  NYG 120   133  LAR 39   169  LAR 23.4   204  DET 9.4   245  NYG 1
      32  NE 590   64  NE 270   96  WAS 116   134  NE 38.5   170  CLE 23   205  NE 9   246  NE 1
                    97  NE 112   135  IND 38   171  NYG 22.6   206  WAS 8.6   247  MIN 1
                    98  JAX 108   136  DAL 37.5   172  ATL 22.2   207  PIT 8.2   248  ARI 1
                    99  LAR 104   137  ATL 37   173  WAS 21.8   208  TB 7.8   249  ARI 1
                    100  CAR 100   138  PHI 36.5          209  MIN 7.4   250  MIN 1
                    101  NE 96                 210  CIN 7   251  LAR 1
                    102  BAL 92                 211  CIN 6.6   252  NE 1
                                         212  SF 6.2   253  WAS 1
                                         213  CIN 5.8   254  ARI 1
                                         214  KC 5.4       

    Thanks for that.  I hadn't seen a chart laid out with teams attached to the selections.

  • @gunz41 said:

    What your value for him is really isn't important, neither is mine. The point is, whether it was your intention or not (which it seems like it wasn't), your post read as the Browns 3rd round pick and Duke to move up to 2nd round. You don't seem to see that, but you know what you were trying to convey.

    From someone else's POV, it looks like you meant Duke and 3rd to move up. There is no mention or insinuation of anything else.

    I clarified a bit later.  At any rate, what is important is what some other team feels Dukes value to them would be worth.  To us he might be viewed as an insurance policy while to another team he might be viewed as a starter, not to mention no matter what rounds value points you or I might assign Duke, being a proven player his value would reflect somewhat higher.  How much higher?   I guess it depends on the team.

    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
    #63

    @ballpeen said:

    I clarified a bit later.  At any rate, what is important is what some other team feels Dukes value to them would be worth.  To us he might be viewed as an insurance policy while to another team he might be viewed as a starter, not to mention no matter what rounds value points you or I might assign Duke, being a proven player his value would reflect somewhat higher.  How much higher?   I guess it depends on the team.

    "Oh, so that's what you meant? Ok then, carry on"

    Aye aye aye

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #64

    I'd be interested in seeing how many Pancakes we can shove down Gettlemans belly LOL

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
    #65

    I can see a trade to 31-45 if there is a player that is highly desired

  • @orion said:

    RD1   RD2   RD3   RD4        RD5   RD6   RD7  
    PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL PK/TM VAL
      1  ARI 3000   33  ARI 580   65  ARI 265   103  ARI 88   139  ARI 36   174  ARI 21.4   215  TB 5
      2  SF 2600   34  IND 560   66  PIT 260   104  SF 86   140  OAK 35.5   175  PIT 21   216  KC 4.6
      3  NYJ 2200   35  OAK 550   67  SF 255   105  NYJ 84   141  PIT 35   176  SF 20.6   217  NYJ 4.2
      4  OAK 1800   36  SF 540   68  NYJ 250   106  OAK 82   142  NYG 34.5   177  NO 20.2   218  OAK 3.8
      5  TB 1700   37  NYG 530   69  JAX 245   107  TB 80   143  NYG 34   178  JAX 19.8   219  PIT 3.4
      6  NYG 1600   38  JAX 520   70  TB 240   108  NYG 78   144  CLE 33.5   179  ARI 19.4   220  HOU 3
      7  JAX 1500   39  TB 510   71  DEN 235   109  JAX 76   145  TB 33   180  NYG 19   221  CLE 2.6
      8  DET 1400   40  BUF 500   72  CIN 230   110  CIN 74   146  DET 32.6   181  BUF 18.6   222  CHI 2.3
      9  BUF 1350   41  DEN 490   73  NE 225   111  DET 72   147  BUF 32.2   182  DEN 18.2   223  CIN 2
      10  DEN 1300   42  CIN 480   74  BUF 220   112  BUF 70   148  DEN 31.8   183  CIN 17.8   224  DET 1.7
      11  CIN 1250   43  DET 470   75  GB 215   113  BAL 68   149  CIN 31.4   184  DET 17.4   225  BUF 1.4
      12  GB 1200   44  GB 460   76  WAS 210   114  GB 66   150  GB 31   185  GB 17   226  GB 1.1
      13  MIA 1150   45  ATL 450   77  CAR 205   115  CAR 64   151  MIA 30.6   186  ATL 16.6   227  WAS 1
      14  ATL 1100   46  WAS 440   78  MIA 200   116  MIA 62   152  ATL 30.2   187  CAR 16.2   228  BUF 1
      15  WAS 1050   47  CAR 430   79  ATL 195   117  ATL 60   153  WAS 29.8   188  TEN 15.8   229  DET 1
      16  CAR 1000   48  MIA 420   80  CLE 190   118  GB 58   154  CAR 29.4   189  CLE 15.4   230  ATL 1
      17  NYG 950   49  CLE 410   81  MIN 185   119  CLE 56   155  CLE 29   190  MIN 15   231  NO 1
      18  MIN 900   50  MIN 400   82  TEN 180   120  MIN 54   156  DEN 28.6   191  BAL 14.6   232  NYG 1
      19  TEN 875   51  TEN 390   83  PIT 175   121  TEN 52   157  TEN 28.2   192  PIT 14.2   233  MIA 1
      20  PIT 850   52  PIT 380   84  KC 170   122  PIT 50   158  BUF 27.8   193  BAL 13.8   234  MIA 1
      21  SEA 800   53  PHI 370   85  BAL 165   123  BAL 49   159  SEA 27.4   194  GB 13.4   235  OAK 1
      22  BAL 780   54  HOU 360   86  HOU 160   124  SEA 48   160  BAL 27   195  HOU 13   236  JAX 1
      23  HOU 760   55  HOU 350   87  CHI 155   125  DEN 47   161  HOU 26.6   196  NYJ 12.6   237  DEN 1
      24  OAK 740   56  NE 340   88  DET 150   126  CHI 46   162  CHI 26.2   197  PHI 12.2   238  CHI 1
      25  PHI 720   57  PHI 330   89  IND 145   127  PHI 45   163  PHI 25.8   198  CIN 11.8   239  NE 1
      26  IND 700   58  DAL 320   90  DAL 140   128  DAL 44   164  IND 25.4   199  IND 11.4   240  IND 1
      27  OAK 680   59  IND 310   91  LAC 136   129  IND 43   165  DAL 25   200  LAC 11   241  DAL 1
      28  LAC 660   60  LAC 300   92  SEA 132   130  LAC 42   166  LAC 24.6   201  KC 10.6   242  LAC 1
      29  SEA 640   61  KC 292   93  NYJ 128   131  BUF 41   167  KC 24.2   202  NO 10.2   243  NE 1
      30  GB 620   62  NO 284   94  LAR 124   132  NYG 40   168  NO 23.8   203  LAR 9.8   244  NO 1
      31  LAR 600   63  KC 276   95  NYG 120   133  LAR 39   169  LAR 23.4   204  DET 9.4   245  NYG 1
      32  NE 590   64  NE 270   96  WAS 116   134  NE 38.5   170  CLE 23   205  NE 9   246  NE 1
                    97  NE 112   135  IND 38   171  NYG 22.6   206  WAS 8.6   247  MIN 1
                    98  JAX 108   136  DAL 37.5   172  ATL 22.2   207  PIT 8.2   248  ARI 1
                    99  LAR 104   137  ATL 37   173  WAS 21.8   208  TB 7.8   249  ARI 1
                    100  CAR 100   138  PHI 36.5          209  MIN 7.4   250  MIN 1
                    101  NE 96                 210  CIN 7   251  LAR 1
                    102  BAL 92                 211  CIN 6.6   252  NE 1
                                         212  SF 6.2   253  WAS 1
                                         213  CIN 5.8   254  ARI 1
                                         214  KC 5.4       

    Thanks for that.  I hadn't seen a chart laid out with teams attached to the selections.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #66

    @ballpeen said:

    Thanks for that.  I hadn't seen a chart laid out with teams attached to the selections.

    Of course OUR team has those reversed graphics so that we can't even see it.   (you have to left click and drag  so you can read the writing for our picks)

  • @hoorta said:

    LOL, but did you go to the same high school as Bo is the question? Just being born in a town, in my case Cleveland- covers a lot of celebrities, sports and otherwise.  🙂  Chuck may be our most famous alum, but those who follow golf have heard of Tom Weiskopf. #2 famous alum. Tom drove the green and aced a par 4 when he was on the golf team.   

    The currently unemployed Najee Goode (formerly of the Eagles) is another of our guys that made it to the NFL.  

    PS, not only did I go to the same HS as Noll, I followed him down the road here to the University of Dayton. BTW, Jon Gruden is also a UD grad. 

    No,  he went to Barberton,  I went to Norton, right next door.  My HS doesn't really have any famous alum....unless you consider a Playboy Playmate as famous:

    Sandra Hubby:

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    Beat that with that All Boys school you went to.

    F FALCON7 wrote on last edited by
    #67

    @the-gipper said:

    No,  he went to Barberton,  I went to Norton, right next door.  My HS doesn't really have any famous alum....unless you consider a Playboy Playmate as famous:

    Sandra Hubby:

    premium_poster.jpg

    Beat that with that All Boys school you went to.

    Ok, you win! Mine is Nancy Cartwright (The voice of Bart Simpson)   So what was she ^  really like...  

  • @the-gipper said:

    No,  he went to Barberton,  I went to Norton, right next door.  My HS doesn't really have any famous alum....unless you consider a Playboy Playmate as famous:

    Sandra Hubby:

    premium_poster.jpg

    Beat that with that All Boys school you went to.

    Ok, you win! Mine is Nancy Cartwright (The voice of Bart Simpson)   So what was she ^  really like...  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #68

    @falcon7 said:

    Ok, you win! Mine is Nancy Cartwright (The voice of Bart Simpson)   So what was she ^  really like...  

    No clue, she wasn't even born until I was already in Law School.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #69

    OK.....so we got through day 1 with no silly trade up.   Hearing JD's comments about how he looked into trading up for 3 different guys and how the compensation demand was just too high for him and the organization,  I say,  Good Job!!  That's just what we want him to do.  If he can do a deal that makes sense, Great.  And if the asking price doesn't make sense....politely decline and hang up the phone.

    JD 'may' move up today but at least the price won't involve next year's 1st rounder.  I mean, next year,  if you want to move up some in round 1 for a player, it's doable.  Without that 1st rounder, those players are out of reach.

    I have another rehearsal tonight (trio)........so Good Luck!   Get us some Good Guys Big John!!

  • OK.....so we got through day 1 with no silly trade up.   Hearing JD's comments about how he looked into trading up for 3 different guys and how the compensation demand was just too high for him and the organization,  I say,  Good Job!!  That's just what we want him to do.  If he can do a deal that makes sense, Great.  And if the asking price doesn't make sense....politely decline and hang up the phone.

    JD 'may' move up today but at least the price won't involve next year's 1st rounder.  I mean, next year,  if you want to move up some in round 1 for a player, it's doable.  Without that 1st rounder, those players are out of reach.

    I have another rehearsal tonight (trio)........so Good Luck!   Get us some Good Guys Big John!!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #70

    @orion said:

    I have another rehearsal tonight (trio)........so Good Luck!   Get us some Good Guys Big John!!

    Is that an dress rehearsal or an undress rehearsal as a trio tonight???‍❤️‍?‍?

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #71

    okay - Jets have Darren Lee on the trading block - they desperately want to trade up into the second round, since they don't have

    a second round pick?

       So, trade up with the Browns, since they are already interested in Duke...

    send em Duke, we get Lee, they trade up to 49, we get their 3rd round pick and whatever else

    that Dorsey figures we should get...

    I'd go with it. Dorsey and co will know the sleepers, etc to still pick to help the Browns round out cb/s, IDL

    PS - the Bengals are wanting Lee, too - so....

  • I can see a trade to 31-45 if there is a player that is highly desired

    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
    #72

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I can see a trade to 31-45 if there is a player that is highly desired

    And of course, traded up to 46 ?

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #73

    Who we jumping for?

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #74

    Good pick to go with Ward. Got to believe we had those two CBs on the radar and jumped as soon as one was taken.

  • bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by
    #75

    Williams Ward Randall Burnett