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***Official 2019 NFL Draft Thread***

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  • A bunch of my BB picks are going tonight. I got a few steals in later rounds that will go before the 3rd is done.

  • Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us

  • The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. 

    These are the top LBers from those teams.

    Mosely- good/elite

    Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)

    Roquan Smith- above average

    Demario Davis- average 

    Cory Littleton- Special teamer

    You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. 

    These are the top LBers from those teams.

    Mosely- good/elite

    Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)

    Roquan Smith- above average

    Demario Davis- average 

    Cory Littleton- Special teamer

    You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers 

    Where TF are you getting your stats?  Scoring defense? 

    YPG 

    Net Yards Per Game Leaders

    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9
    2 Buffalo 4706 294.1 2867 179.2 1839 114.9 374 23.4
    3 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7
    4 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3
    5 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8
    6 Pittsburgh 5235 327.2 3697 231.1 1538 96.1 360 22.5
    7 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3
    8 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9
    9 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6
    10 Detroit 5360 335.0 3599 224.9 1761 110.1 360 22.5

    edit:  PPG makes your argument look even more silly with the top 10.   All of those teams have some quality LB's.

  • Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. 

  • Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. 

    I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...?    You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's.   He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him.        One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense.   Just ask Cincy.

  • Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy?

  • Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy?

    @chimpy07 said:

    Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy?

    Greedy is falling further and further.

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league. 

    I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...?    You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's.   He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him.        One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense.   Just ask Cincy.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...?    You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's.   He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him.        One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense.   Just ask Cincy.

    The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander 

  • Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us

    @louisville-slugger said:

    Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us

    No love for greedy williams?

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us

    No love for greedy williams?

    @bjh2130 said:

    No love for greedy williams?

    He has potential but he is a kind of soft. If we dont land Love Moreland from James Madison is my next target at CB

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...?    You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's.   He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him.        One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense.   Just ask Cincy.

    The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander 

    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7
    2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9
    3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9
    4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8
      Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8
    6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3
    7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3
    8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6
    9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3
    10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344

    21.5

    PPG...    Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good),  Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter.

    That's a pretty solid list of names there. 

  • I knew the Broncos were gonna find a way to get him (Lock) after they traded down with the idiot Giants.

  • Someone's gonna look at us an think they gonna take greedy and jump us... We need to make a move

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander 

    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7
    2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9
    3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9
    4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8
      Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8
    6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3
    7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3
    8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6
    9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3
    10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344

    21.5

    PPG...    Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good),  Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter.

    That's a pretty solid list of names there. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7
    2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9
    3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9
    4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8
      Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8
    6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3
    7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3
    8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6
    9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3
    10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344

    21.5

    PPG...    Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good),  Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter.

    That's a pretty solid list of names there. 

    I'm not saying they aren't good I'm saying that it's more important to prioritize pass rush and secondary. Just like you dont need to have an all-pro OG just a guy is fine

  • We made a move

  • Greedy?

  • Looks like Greedy.

  • Feelin greedy

  • Boom thank u john

  • 2013 Draft... Greedy