draft grade
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Williams- A - I dont like alot of his game but he is really good at turning and running with WRs. It's really good value in the mid 2nd.
Takitaki- F- looks like a decent special teamer but there was too much talent on the board to not hate this pick.
Redwine- C- the value is better than Takitaki but there was better options. Looks like a good special teamer that could get a few snaps on defense.
Wilson- A- coverage LBer that can rotate in on passing downs. Good value this late but was overrated by most.
Seibert- A- we need a kicker and he is promising.
Forbes- C- I dont know anything about him but this late you cant expect much. We missed on OT early so might as well roll the dice.
Lewis Jr.- C- last pick of the why not
Overall- B
Williams- A - I dont like alot of his game but he is really good at turning and running with WRs. It's really good value in the mid 2nd.
Takitaki- F- looks like a decent special teamer but there was too much talent on the board to not hate this pick.
Redwine- C- the value is better than Takitaki but there was better options. Looks like a good special teamer that could get a few snaps on defense.
Wilson- A- coverage LBer that can rotate in on passing downs. Good value this late but was overrated by most.
Seibert- A- we need a kicker and he is promising.
Forbes- C- I dont know anything about him but this late you cant expect much. We missed on OT early so might as well roll the dice.
Lewis Jr.- C- last pick of the why not
Overall- B
My grade of your grades: X
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I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
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I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.
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Zombo said:
I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.
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Zombo said:
I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.
If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.
You many have counted the PR and KR ...but they have other positions.
But upon further review...no, it does seem to be 54.
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You many have counted the PR and KR ...but they have other positions.
But upon further review...no, it does seem to be 54.
I counted twice.
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You many have counted the PR and KR ...but they have other positions.
But upon further review...no, it does seem to be 54.
I counted twice.
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Zombo said:
I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.
Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:
QB Mayfield, Stanton
FB
RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley
WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson
TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown
LT Robinson, Harrison
LG Bitonio
C Tretter
RG Corbett
RT Hubbard
DE Garrett, Smith
DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence
DT Coley, Price
DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas
MLB Schoebert,
OLB Vernon, Hines
OLB Kirksey, Avery
CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson
CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris
S Randall. Whitehead
S Peppers, Kindred
K Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR Hilliard, Peppers
PR Calloway, Peppers
Here is the roster today, new guys in green:
QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert
FB/H-B O. Charles
RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)
WR1 O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies, B. Jackson
WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong
TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown
LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison
LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes
C J.Tretter K. Kalis
RG A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann
RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton
DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas
DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence
DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price
DE O. Vernon, Zettle,
MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong
OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines
OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki
CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris
CB T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis, P. Gaines
FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead
SS M. Burnett, E. Murray
K A. Seibert, G. Joseph
P Colquitt
LS Hughlett
KR (Hilliard)
PR (Callaway)
New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.
Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.
Zombo
If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.
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From Pro Football Analyst
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My opinion on that article? "Thank you for participating in the 2019 NFL Draft". No grade lower than a C. Even though Giants fans are ready to run Gettelman out of town for drafting Daniel Jones.
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Do not included the obj factor.
I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...
If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:
- 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
- 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
- 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
- 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
- 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
- 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
- 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Do not included the obj factor.
I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...
If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:
- 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
- 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
- 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
- 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
- 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
- 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
- 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.
I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...
If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:
- 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
- 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
- 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
- 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
- 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
- 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
- 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.
Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.
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I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...
If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:
- 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
- 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
- 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
- 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
- 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
- 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
- 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.
Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.
Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.
If Greedy Williams had been picked I think the Browns would have.
The Browns took Layne out for dinner TWO days before the draft.
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