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  • Bob806 Bob806B Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    WSS I think its simply a bad idea to appoint a for-profit person to a post that is in charge of public schools. Bad look for sure. 

    I cannot pinpoint anything specifically that she's done "wrong." I simply used her as an example of cronyism. Ohio is an example of Charter School failure, let's hope that Betsy doesn't turn a blind eye.

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      Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

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        zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

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          @texasag1969 said:

          Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

          Your whole argument falls flat when you quote a liar like Comey apparently as someone who has a "moral compass". 

          https://lyincomey.com/

          https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/383251-admit-it-james-comey-youve-been-lying-all-along

          https://spectator.org/how-comey-lied-about-spying-on-trump-tower/

          https://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/watch-mary-katharine-ham-call-out-comey-for-lying/

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            Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

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            @texasag1969 said:

            Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

            Another ignorant baseless Texsag cowardly chicken dance.

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            Comey? LOL ? your new hero? even rosenstein said he should be fired. Give the stupidity a rest maybe ? LOL

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              Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

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              @texasag1969 said:

              Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

              Tell me about it.  You throw the term "moral compass" around as freely as liberals do "racist" , which only proves you're the one not thinking.

              If you support today's democrat party then you can say you have lost your moral compass.  Your perception of morality is distorted and only used as vengeance.

               Supporting a president who has done so many good things for this country has no reflection on the morality of the individual supporting him. Having an ideal set of morals isn't in the presidents job description, it is for a priest or rabbi.

              Your assertions have nothing to do with morals and everything to do with trying to humiliate a president you don't like. Another tool used by tools.

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                @texasag1969 said:

                Like I have said before, if you back him without thinking then you have lost your moral compass. What I mean by that is that you can no longer sift through this amoral liar's daily barrage of BS. Comey calls it allowing him to eat your soul bit by bit. It's an apt description. Once you begin to excuse it, then you have lost yourself in early Nazi Germany level fanaticism. 10,000 falsehoods and half-truths and counting according to the WP.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

                Your whole argument falls flat when you quote a liar like Comey apparently as someone who has a "moral compass". 

                https://lyincomey.com/

                https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/383251-admit-it-james-comey-youve-been-lying-all-along

                https://spectator.org/how-comey-lied-about-spying-on-trump-tower/

                https://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/watch-mary-katharine-ham-call-out-comey-for-lying/

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                Your whole argument falls flat when you quote a liar like Comey apparently as someone who has a "moral compass". 

                https://lyincomey.com/

                https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/383251-admit-it-james-comey-youve-been-lying-all-along

                https://spectator.org/how-comey-lied-about-spying-on-trump-tower/

                https://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/watch-mary-katharine-ham-call-out-comey-for-lying/

                Thanks, I meant to include that in my post.

                He posts a  Comey "CMA"  article after talking about morality. LOL

                That's "Cover My Ass" by going after Trump.

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                      Yessiree the great American Fraud!  Lost over $1Bil over a decade when he was claiming to be this great businessman. What a fucking liar.?? It's the only thing he's really good at.

                      https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-trump-businesses-taxes-20190507-story.html

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                        The net worth of Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States, is approximately $3.1 billion according to Forbes as of 5 March 2019, whereas Bloomberg estimated his wealth at $2.8 billion.

                        Wealth of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump
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                          VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

                          Under 3 U.S. Code § 102, the president's annual salary is $400,000.

                          For the past two years, Trump has donated his salary to government agencies, during a televised press briefing with Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 

                          https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify-yes-trump-has-never-taken-a-presidential-paycheck/65-de8190fd-d0a2-4f35-90b1-5eb44026a3e2

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                            VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

                            Under 3 U.S. Code § 102, the president's annual salary is $400,000.

                            For the past two years, Trump has donated his salary to government agencies, during a televised press briefing with Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 

                            https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify-yes-trump-has-never-taken-a-presidential-paycheck/65-de8190fd-d0a2-4f35-90b1-5eb44026a3e2

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                            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

                            Under 3 U.S. Code § 102, the president's annual salary is $400,000.

                            For the past two years, Trump has donated his salary to government agencies, during a televised press briefing with Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 

                            https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify-yes-trump-has-never-taken-a-presidential-paycheck/65-de8190fd-d0a2-4f35-90b1-5eb44026a3e2

                            And at the same time the Trump Foundation got outlawed for donating to the Trump family rather than charity. I'm really impressed. ?

                            I bet you guys would love to play the shell game with Trump. You'd be happy to walk away losers all the time. Got to admire such a great Con.??

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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

                              Under 3 U.S. Code § 102, the president's annual salary is $400,000.

                              For the past two years, Trump has donated his salary to government agencies, during a televised press briefing with Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 

                              https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify-yes-trump-has-never-taken-a-presidential-paycheck/65-de8190fd-d0a2-4f35-90b1-5eb44026a3e2

                              And at the same time the Trump Foundation got outlawed for donating to the Trump family rather than charity. I'm really impressed. ?

                              I bet you guys would love to play the shell game with Trump. You'd be happy to walk away losers all the time. Got to admire such a great Con.??

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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              And at the same time the Trump Foundation got outlawed for donating to the Trump family rather than charity. I'm really impressed. ?

                              I bet you guys would love to play the shell game with Trump. You'd be happy to walk away losers all the time. Got to admire such a great Con.??

                              Trump's Lean White House 2018 Payroll On-Track To Save Taxpayers $22 Million

                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/06/29/trumps-lean-white-house-2018-payroll-on-track-to-save-taxpayers-22-million/#242656674e4f

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                                WSS I think its simply a bad idea to appoint a for-profit person to a post that is in charge of public schools. Bad look for sure. 

                                I cannot pinpoint anything specifically that she's done "wrong." I simply used her as an example of cronyism. Ohio is an example of Charter School failure, let's hope that Betsy doesn't turn a blind eye.

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                                WSS I think its simply a bad idea to appoint a for-profit person to a post that is in charge of public schools. Bad look for sure. 

                                I cannot pinpoint anything specifically that she's done "wrong." I simply used her as an example of cronyism. Ohio is an example of Charter School failure, let's hope that Betsy doesn't turn a blind eye.

                                 of course Ohio is also an even better example of the failure of the public school system at the hands of the teachers union. 

                                You know that we have differences over the need for the unions in todays economy but I think the teachers union is definitely the most destructive. I have a lot of friends in other unions who I have a lot more respect for. Including you.

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                                  And yet the religious schools (primarily Catholic) give an outstanding education. 

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                                    WSS I think its simply a bad idea to appoint a for-profit person to a post that is in charge of public schools. Bad look for sure. 

                                    I cannot pinpoint anything specifically that she's done "wrong." I simply used her as an example of cronyism. Ohio is an example of Charter School failure, let's hope that Betsy doesn't turn a blind eye.

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                                    @bob806 said:

                                    WSS I think its simply a bad idea to appoint a for-profit person to a post that is in charge of public schools. Bad look for sure. 

                                    I cannot pinpoint anything specifically that she's done "wrong." I simply used her as an example of cronyism. Ohio is an example of Charter School failure, let's hope that Betsy doesn't turn a blind eye.

                                    as always, there is more to the story than just what you posted, Bob.

                                    https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/02/charter-schools-havent-improved-in-ohio-stanford-researchers-find.html

                                    Most charter schools - the “brick-and-mortar” schools where students come to a school every day - look great in the new findings, when they are compared to traditional public schools handling similar students. These charters helped students read better than traditional schools did with similar students, and barely did worse in math.

                                    The big problems are with online charter schools, which lag so far behind everyone that they wipe out any gains for charters overall. Online charters did worse in both reading and math - far worse in math - than other schools. It was as if students at online charters in Ohio skipped 47 days of reading classes in a year and 136 days of math classes.

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                                      Thank God Betsy isn't a union hack, Bob.

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                                        Thank God Betsy isn't a union hack, Bob.

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                                        Thank God Betsy isn't a union hack, Bob.

                                        Yeah, totally the opposite with her. 

                                        I'm just pointing out the misery of Charter Schools in Ohio. The White Hat group folded up, which had a huge hand in Ohio (not sure of elsewhere, if there was an elsewhere).

                                        I did not realize it was online school  stuff at the root of the problem. I don't get the whole "online" school thing anyway; I can't see it being effective in the long run, because sometimes we need group discussion to help our minds out. For a class or two, I bet it's fine. For an entire curriculum, I'm not so sure.

                                        I have quite a few friends of mine who got online Fire Science degrees, mainly for resume building for possible promotions. IMHO, nothing beats hands-on experience, no matter what the field you work in or study.

                                        I want to be a punt returner for the University of Phoenix online!

                                        WSS- while I understand your disdain for the teachers union, just remember our wonderful state hasn't moved on the school funding issue (Ohio Supreme Court said it was unconstitutional years ago). So these operating levies depend on voters to pass or fail, and the teachers' raises/benefits depend on them. It's the only tax a voter has a say-so on to my knowledge that effects so many people. Eventually, it needs to be fixed but no politician seems willing to stick their neck out on it. 

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                                          "WSS- while I understand your disdain for the teachers union, just remember our wonderful state hasn't moved on the school funding issue (Ohio Supreme Court said it was unconstitutional years ago). So these operating levies depend on voters to pass or fail, and the teachers' raises/benefits depend on them. It's the only tax a voter has a say-so on to my knowledge that effects so many people. Eventually, it needs to be fixed but no politician seems willing to stick their neck out on it. "

                                          Frankly Bob, I don't think it's a matter of money at all. They spend more in the inner-city schools than they do have a lot of the suburbs and the results are worse. And I don't blame the rank-and-file teachers. You can take the teachers from Hudson Academy have swap them with JFK in East Cleveland and the results will be just about the same. School performance will almost always reflect the community. The standards and requirements to teach in the best and the worst communities are the same. What the taxpayers in the suburbs get gouged for a school levy and understand that 90% of that money goes to the teachers head administrators they don't want to vote for any more.

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