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  • exactly what i thought he was going to do. Bet dorsey says look...u can go to blt for a mill or 2 more and watch the Browns from home playing in december 

  • Latest from NFL.com:

    "Rapoport reported Wednesday that McCoy was attempting to start a bidding war between the Browns and Ravens for his services. But the compensation was not what he wanted -- more than the $10 million that Ndamukong Suh received in Tampa Bay -- so McCoy is taking a third visit to Carolina, Rapoport added."

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032290/article/gerald-mccoy-visiting-panthers-after-ravens-meeting

    MHO- no reason for the Browns to overpay for McCoy, if he's looking for big money.  Sucks if he winds up with the Ravens. 

    @hoorta said:

    Latest from NFL.com:

    "Rapoport reported Wednesday that McCoy was attempting to start a bidding war between the Browns and Ravens for his services. But the compensation was not what he wanted -- more than the $10 million that Ndamukong Suh received in Tampa Bay -- so McCoy is taking a third visit to Carolina, Rapoport added."

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032290/article/gerald-mccoy-visiting-panthers-after-ravens-meeting

    MHO- no reason for the Browns to overpay for McCoy, if he's looking for big money.  Sucks if he winds up with the Ravens. 

    Can the Ravens afford close to the 10 million on their salary cap?  I know the Browns can.

    Looked it up:

    Browns have 33 million, Ratfuckers only have like 13 million.    Panthers have less than the Ravens with @ 9 million

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

  • Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

  • Latest from NFL.com:

    "Rapoport reported Wednesday that McCoy was attempting to start a bidding war between the Browns and Ravens for his services. But the compensation was not what he wanted -- more than the $10 million that Ndamukong Suh received in Tampa Bay -- so McCoy is taking a third visit to Carolina, Rapoport added."

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032290/article/gerald-mccoy-visiting-panthers-after-ravens-meeting

    MHO- no reason for the Browns to overpay for McCoy, if he's looking for big money.  Sucks if he winds up with the Ravens. 

    @hoorta said:

    MHO- no reason for the Browns to overpay for McCoy, if he's looking for big money. 

    Exactly.  I don't want us ruining a team salary structure by overpaying an older player.

  • @hoorta said:

    Latest from NFL.com:

    "Rapoport reported Wednesday that McCoy was attempting to start a bidding war between the Browns and Ravens for his services. But the compensation was not what he wanted -- more than the $10 million that Ndamukong Suh received in Tampa Bay -- so McCoy is taking a third visit to Carolina, Rapoport added."

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032290/article/gerald-mccoy-visiting-panthers-after-ravens-meeting

    MHO- no reason for the Browns to overpay for McCoy, if he's looking for big money.  Sucks if he winds up with the Ravens. 

    Can the Ravens afford close to the 10 million on their salary cap?  I know the Browns can.

    Looked it up:

    Browns have 33 million, Ratfuckers only have like 13 million.    Panthers have less than the Ravens with @ 9 million

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

    @the-gipper said:

    Can the Ravens afford close to the 10 million on their salary cap?  I know the Browns can.

    Looked it up:

    Browns have 33 million, Ratfuckers only have like 13 million.    Panthers have less than the Ravens with @ 9 million

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

    True, but what you need to look at is the last column- that's more like the available money this year, which is even less.  Colts easily have the most money left, and they're not interested in McCoy- which should tell you something.  

    For the Browns, McCoy is a luxury item- and Dorsey isn't buying unless the price is right.  🙂  

  • Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    @tiamat63 said:

    Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    thsts a big 2 gapper looks like. We already have a guy or two like that on our roster no? That being said...clevfan likes a big 2 gapper paired with a jobi or sheldon type. Mskes sure no interior lineman even dream of helping out the tackles. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Can the Ravens afford close to the 10 million on their salary cap?  I know the Browns can.

    Looked it up:

    Browns have 33 million, Ratfuckers only have like 13 million.    Panthers have less than the Ravens with @ 9 million

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

    True, but what you need to look at is the last column- that's more like the available money this year, which is even less.  Colts easily have the most money left, and they're not interested in McCoy- which should tell you something.  

    For the Browns, McCoy is a luxury item- and Dorsey isn't buying unless the price is right.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

      For the Browns, McCoy is a luxury item- and Dorsey isn't buying unless the price is right.  🙂  

    Let's be honest. Wilks won't be counting on a Gregg Williams blitz system to get to the QB..Wilks pressure comes from the front 4 with seldom solo LB or safety blitz..Suh statline last season looks like he took half the year off till crunch time, imo. While Suh had Arron Donald to his right seeing most to all the double teams..Who did McCoy have to his right or left to get any help? No-Bodies! imo. If we need our front 4 to get pressure, let's look at Suh's pressure numbers w/A.Donald vs. McCoy's & nobody, only playing 14 games..Suh had 4 sacks, McCoy 6 sacks..Suh had 19 QB hits, while McCoy had 21 QB hits.In 2 less games..neither miss many tackles..Oakland just bought a lazy luxury in Suh for 1 year 9.25M..What in your mind or other's is Dorsey's non-luxury number for McCoy? If it is less than Suh's 1 year? it would really shock me..   

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    thsts a big 2 gapper looks like. We already have a guy or two like that on our roster no? That being said...clevfan likes a big 2 gapper paired with a jobi or sheldon type. Mskes sure no interior lineman even dream of helping out the tackles. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    thsts a big 2 gapper looks like. We already have a guy or two like that on our roster no? That being said...clevfan likes a big 2 gapper paired with a jobi or sheldon type. Mskes sure no interior lineman even dream of helping out the tackles. 

    Daniels can do whatever you need.  Kid is probably one of the most underappreciated interior lineman in the NFL.

  • @hoorta said:

      For the Browns, McCoy is a luxury item- and Dorsey isn't buying unless the price is right.  🙂  

    Let's be honest. Wilks won't be counting on a Gregg Williams blitz system to get to the QB..Wilks pressure comes from the front 4 with seldom solo LB or safety blitz..Suh statline last season looks like he took half the year off till crunch time, imo. While Suh had Arron Donald to his right seeing most to all the double teams..Who did McCoy have to his right or left to get any help? No-Bodies! imo. If we need our front 4 to get pressure, let's look at Suh's pressure numbers w/A.Donald vs. McCoy's & nobody, only playing 14 games..Suh had 4 sacks, McCoy 6 sacks..Suh had 19 QB hits, while McCoy had 21 QB hits.In 2 less games..neither miss many tackles..Oakland just bought a lazy luxury in Suh for 1 year 9.25M..What in your mind or other's is Dorsey's non-luxury number for McCoy? If it is less than Suh's 1 year? it would really shock me..   

    @gumby73 said:

    Let's be honest. Wilks won't be counting on a Gregg Williams blitz system to get to the QB..Wilks pressure comes from the front 4 with seldom solo LB or safety blitz..Suh statline last season looks like he took half the year off till crunch time, imo. While Suh had Arron Donald to his right seeing most to all the double teams..Who did McCoy have to his right or left to get any help? No-Bodies! imo. If we need our front 4 to get pressure, let's look at Suh's pressure numbers w/A.Donald vs. McCoy's & nobody, only playing 14 games..Suh had 4 sacks, McCoy 6 sacks..Suh had 19 QB hits, while McCoy had 21 QB hits.In 2 less games..neither miss many tackles..Oakland just bought a lazy luxury in Suh for 1 year 9.25M..What in your mind or other's is Dorsey's non-luxury number for McCoy? If it is less than Suh's 1 year? it would really shock me..   

    ...point(s) taken.

    No doubt he would make us a better defense.  If you can pressure the QB with your 4 down linemen then the back 7 can cover more of the field.

    So...you justify it by saying, 'Baker's gift was OBJ and Myles' gift is McCoy'.    and then McCoy can buy an orange Rolls Royce too.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    thsts a big 2 gapper looks like. We already have a guy or two like that on our roster no? That being said...clevfan likes a big 2 gapper paired with a jobi or sheldon type. Mskes sure no interior lineman even dream of helping out the tackles. 

    Daniels can do whatever you need.  Kid is probably one of the most underappreciated interior lineman in the NFL.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Daniels can do whatever you need.  Kid is probably one of the most underappreciated interior lineman in the NFL.

    6 ft 310....thats a bowling ball lol

  • Visiting the Panthers today and tomorrow.

    https://heavy.com/sports/2019/05/browns-gerald-mccoy-free-agency/

  • They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction? 

    Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....

    We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....

    Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps.

    @mudfly said:

    They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction? 

    Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....

    We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....

    Agree.... $13mm was not a barrier... at least not if we really thought McCoy was a key piece to add to our 2019 puzzle.

  • Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps.

    @mudfly said:

    They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction? 

    Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....

    We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....

    Agree.... $13mm was not a barrier... at least not if we really thought McCoy was a key piece to add to our 2019 puzzle.

    @tour2ma said:

    Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps.

    I was thinking that may be a possibility. We'll see soon enough.

    Mike

  • Looks like he is making the decision among 3 (Browns are one of them) over this weekend.

    https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-notebook-dt-mccoy-reportedly-022408829.html

  • @one-post said:

    Hey man how long have you had that???

    how long have i had what?

    @clevfan4life said:

    how long have i had what?

    The stupid look on your face.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    how long have i had what?

    The stupid look on your face.

    @one-post said:

    The stupid look on your face.

    what is this about now? 

  • From Mayfield Village,Ohio..Bake's Kids Camp(cool video) He's working on McCoy too.. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/06/baker-mayfield-says-hes-recruiting-gerald-mccoy-eager-for-a-full-house-at-browns-minicamp.html    

  • o26.gif      WFH.gif                                             So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/  ?   

  • o26.gif      WFH.gif                                             So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/  ?   

    @gumby73 said:

    o26.gif      WFH.gif                                             So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/  ?   

    Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent.  The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.

  • @gumby73 said:

    o26.gif      WFH.gif                                             So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/  ?   

    Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent.  The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent.  The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.

    could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house.😆.I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" 😉..some Panther fans are not that bright ?..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too..