Gerald McCoy/ Mike Daniels
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For the Browns, McCoy is a luxury item- and Dorsey isn't buying unless the price is right.
Let's be honest. Wilks won't be counting on a Gregg Williams blitz system to get to the QB..Wilks pressure comes from the front 4 with seldom solo LB or safety blitz..Suh statline last season looks like he took half the year off till crunch time, imo. While Suh had Arron Donald to his right seeing most to all the double teams..Who did McCoy have to his right or left to get any help? No-Bodies! imo. If we need our front 4 to get pressure, let's look at Suh's pressure numbers w/A.Donald vs. McCoy's & nobody, only playing 14 games..Suh had 4 sacks, McCoy 6 sacks..Suh had 19 QB hits, while McCoy had 21 QB hits.In 2 less games..neither miss many tackles..Oakland just bought a lazy luxury in Suh for 1 year 9.25M..What in your mind or other's is Dorsey's non-luxury number for McCoy? If it is less than Suh's 1 year? it would really shock me..
Let's be honest. Wilks won't be counting on a Gregg Williams blitz system to get to the QB..Wilks pressure comes from the front 4 with seldom solo LB or safety blitz..Suh statline last season looks like he took half the year off till crunch time, imo. While Suh had Arron Donald to his right seeing most to all the double teams..Who did McCoy have to his right or left to get any help? No-Bodies! imo. If we need our front 4 to get pressure, let's look at Suh's pressure numbers w/A.Donald vs. McCoy's & nobody, only playing 14 games..Suh had 4 sacks, McCoy 6 sacks..Suh had 19 QB hits, while McCoy had 21 QB hits.In 2 less games..neither miss many tackles..Oakland just bought a lazy luxury in Suh for 1 year 9.25M..What in your mind or other's is Dorsey's non-luxury number for McCoy? If it is less than Suh's 1 year? it would really shock me..
...point(s) taken.
No doubt he would make us a better defense. If you can pressure the QB with your 4 down linemen then the back 7 can cover more of the field.
So...you justify it by saying, 'Baker's gift was OBJ and Myles' gift is McCoy'. and then McCoy can buy an orange Rolls Royce too.
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thsts a big 2 gapper looks like. We already have a guy or two like that on our roster no? That being said...clevfan likes a big 2 gapper paired with a jobi or sheldon type. Mskes sure no interior lineman even dream of helping out the tackles.
Daniels can do whatever you need. Kid is probably one of the most underappreciated interior lineman in the NFL.
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Visiting the Panthers today and tomorrow.
https://heavy.com/sports/2019/05/browns-gerald-mccoy-free-agency/
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They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction?
Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....
We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....
Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps.
They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction?
Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....
We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....
Agree.... $13mm was not a barrier... at least not if we really thought McCoy was a key piece to add to our 2019 puzzle.
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Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps.
They are indicating he is now going to Carolina too. Can you spell distraction?
Let me know when he's a Brown......otherwise, meh....
We coulda/shoulda just dropped a 6th or 7th and it woulda been a done deal weeks ago.....
Agree.... $13mm was not a barrier... at least not if we really thought McCoy was a key piece to add to our 2019 puzzle.
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Looks like he is making the decision among 3 (Browns are one of them) over this weekend.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-notebook-dt-mccoy-reportedly-022408829.html
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how long have i had what?
The stupid look on your face.
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how long have i had what?
The stupid look on your face.
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From Mayfield Village,Ohio..Bake's Kids Camp(cool video) He's working on McCoy too.. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/06/baker-mayfield-says-hes-recruiting-gerald-mccoy-eager-for-a-full-house-at-browns-minicamp.html
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So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ ?
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So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ ?
So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ ?
Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.
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So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours ?..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ ?
Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.
Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.
could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house.
.I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" 
..some Panther fans are not that bright ?..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too..
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Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money.
could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house.
.I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" ..some Panther fans are not that bright ?..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too..
could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house.
.I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" ..some Panther fans are not that bright ?..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too..
Maybe your problem is that you have not been giving your wife enough "sacrifice squeezes".
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he signed with Panthers
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Good luck in Carolina Gerald. Time for us to move on.
Mike
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what did he end up signing for? was it a lot more than what the Browns offered? I mean he's not gonna start there either...what's the point then?
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1y/4M guaranteed, total value 10M if hits all bonuses
Carolina now has only 8m for all rookies and UDFA.. not much.
So the next shoe to fall will probably be Carolina cutting/trading Dontari Poe's 5.8M/3.3M hit over the next 2 seasons.
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1 year 4M at signing/3M base/500k Camp Bonus/500k per game on 46 man active/Sack bonus=6.5 sacks =500k. 8 sacks-1.5M ect.ect./250k if he makes the pro-bowl/250k if Panthers make the playoffs(ah nah! see Saints)..Total deal could MAX. 10.25M..Rumors not confirmed*--McCoy took less money than other deals? is rumored, to play the revenge card against Bucs week 2 & 6 while staying in the familiar NFC South..and no issue in Tampa giving McCoy's #93 to Suh Monday with Arians saying "McCoy just don't fit our Defensive scheme"..?..guess i will be grilling the wife some tv dinners..all this week
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1 year 4M at signing/3M base/500k Camp Bonus/500k per game on 46 man active/Sack bonus=6.5 sacks =500k. 8 sacks-1.5M ect.ect./250k if he makes the pro-bowl/250k if Panthers make the playoffs(ah nah! see Saints)..Total deal could MAX. 10.25M..Rumors not confirmed*--McCoy took less money than other deals? is rumored, to play the revenge card against Bucs week 2 & 6 while staying in the familiar NFC South..and no issue in Tampa giving McCoy's #93 to Suh Monday with Arians saying "McCoy just don't fit our Defensive scheme"..?..guess i will be grilling the wife some tv dinners..all this week
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Eh, don't need him anyway.
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