Andrew Luck
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Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
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Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
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Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
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That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
Yes very plus in the 10 hospital trips I had from 2015-2019 some were lengthy stays 7 requiring rehab.
In 2015 I got very sick and lost 63 pounds down below my high school weight 50 years earlier. I almost didn't make it back......you learn a lot from those experiences.
There are 40 year old former football players who have to walk with two canes or some who can't remember how to get home.
Easy to judge sometimes.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
With those kind of fans, I’d quit too. Cleveland fans have booed our losing QBs. But never booed a winning QB. Slighting a winner is pretty shaky. You guys deserve Irsay.
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You're wrong.
There was no excuse to boo
Luck apparently told the owner weeks ago
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I'm think, that Luck would have decided before the draft, to help his team, but didn't really know til later.
The more he found out about what other players have been saying about injuries... and dealt with his own...
he just didn't want to go on with any more injuries - . Good luck to him.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I can tell you that after knee surgery for a torn medial meniscus I desperately wanted to come back to racquetball again and rode a bicycle 15 miles a day up and down hills to rehab. But it took me about two months of trying to come back (4 months first on the bike) before I had to admit I was hurting the other knee in trying to protect the one that had healed. I was very lucky that after a year from then on I was asked to play again by my son in law after having spent that year on that 15 mi. a day ride. So now I play again but with the knowledge I am one injury away from bicycles permanently.
It's very hard to give up something you have done and love most of your life and you first have to conclude you just can't do it on the level required. And for pro QB's it's just not the same as an amateur RB player. Tough decision for Luck to make with $$$$$$s to have to leave on the table tempting a comeback. I won't fault him for hanging on to hope as long as he could. Real self-competitors are just made that way.
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According to the NFLPA, the average career is 3.3 years.
Looks like he’ll be a full time caveman for geico now... lol
BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
Of course it was selfish. I expect the retirement of somebody to be a selfish move. It's football, not the war.
I can see him not knowing till a few weeks ago. Pre draft he still had plenty of months to recover and get into perfect football shape. Time has gone by, and he has kept feeling pain, with another season of fighting through pain getting closer and closer.
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BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
The're some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
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The're some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
So.... if one is damaged to the point where "best ever" is not possible and they retire early, then you'll understand?
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You're wrong.
There was no excuse to boo
Luck apparently told the owner weeks ago
He probably should have announced it then...before the game. In hindsight.
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BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
And now he can become the assistant commissioner of the XFL.....since his dad is the commissioner!!
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
Sorry- but I'll assume Luck is being honest when he said he wasn't sure about it as recently as a month ago. Or are you a disgruntled Colts fan dropping by for a visit? As some have previously said- Irsay's dad was one of the more recent carpetbaggers who set off a chain reaction of team relocation. Maybe karma is catching up to the Colts.
This isn't the first or the last time a "name" player has walked away from the game when they still had plenty of tread left on the tires. Starting with Jim Brown (I've maintained if JB had done a Jerry Rice and played until he couldn't anymore, he'd still hold every rushing record worth mentioning), Barry Sanders, Robert Smith, and Calvin Johnson. Those off the top of my head. Chris Borland walked away after a promising rookie season.
The salaries are so high now, there's really no reason to keep playing if you're worried about winding up in a wheelchair like Earl Campbell did.
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BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
It's happening now when I played high school football in the 1960s we had 105 boys out for JV and varsity football our graduating class had 327 total students.
Now I see some local schools here in football crazy NE OHIO that can barely get 30 or 40 players most playing two ways and some special teams.
The soccer, volleyball and those sports are not having those kinds of problems.
I believe kids are lazier and many soccer moms and dads don't want their kids playing tackle football. Why? Just read the papers and watch the news.....or PBS or 60 minutes.
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Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
So.... if one is damaged to the point where "best ever" is not possible and they retire early, then you'll understand?
So.... if one is damaged to the point where "best ever" is not possible and they retire early, then you'll understand?
So long as the reason is legitimate like Luck's seems to be? Sure. Of course I would prefer that both our players actually become the best ever and fulfill their dreams without becoming injured. But as the Stones used to sing, "You can't always get what you want.......".
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