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  • And this is why you don't have your coach with GM responsibilities.  

    Should Houston let Bill go, they're fucked themselves for the immediate future with draft capital and potentially getting the most out of their young QB with young talent around him.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    And this is why you don't have your coach with GM responsibilities.  

    Should Houston let Bill go, they're fucked themselves for the immediate future with draft capital and potentially getting the most out of their young QB with young talent around him.

    I think we tried that with Butch Davis- and it turned out poorly, we didn't even have a qb of note. 

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #32

    The Texans all but had Patriots top executive in FO Nick Caserio hired as next GM in Houston this season..Nick wanted to leave too, with 1 year left on contract to take GM job.Pats denied Nick to move on.Is Craft or Belicheck wanting to see ex-Bill O'Brien fired? It really seemed like a prick'ish move again coming out of Chowder-ville.. Josh McDaniels proved that..

  • The Texans all but had Patriots top executive in FO Nick Caserio hired as next GM in Houston this season..Nick wanted to leave too, with 1 year left on contract to take GM job.Pats denied Nick to move on.Is Craft or Belicheck wanting to see ex-Bill O'Brien fired? It really seemed like a prick'ish move again coming out of Chowder-ville.. Josh McDaniels proved that..

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    The Texans all but had Patriots top executive in FO Nick Caserio hired as next GM in Houston this season..Nick wanted to leave too, with 1 year left on contract to take GM job.Pats denied Nick to move on.Is Craft or Belicheck wanting to see ex-Bill O'Brien fired? It really seemed like a prick'ish move again coming out of Chowder-ville.. Josh McDaniels proved that..

    I thought they could not block it if it were an upward, and not a lateral move.  I assume GM of the DATs would have been considered upward for him...no?

  • @gumby73 said:

    The Texans all but had Patriots top executive in FO Nick Caserio hired as next GM in Houston this season..Nick wanted to leave too, with 1 year left on contract to take GM job.Pats denied Nick to move on.Is Craft or Belicheck wanting to see ex-Bill O'Brien fired? It really seemed like a prick'ish move again coming out of Chowder-ville.. Josh McDaniels proved that..

    I thought they could not block it if it were an upward, and not a lateral move.  I assume GM of the DATs would have been considered upward for him...no?

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #34

    @the-gipper said:

    I thought they could not block it if it were an upward, and not a lateral move.  I assume GM of the DATs would have been considered upward for him...no?

    It's a good attorney case till Pats filed tampering papers.. https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000001033621/article/patriots-accuse-texans-of-tampering-over-nick-caserio  (<< pats bugged not to open) google Nick Caserio Texans...he should be there next season if O'Brien has anything to do with it?..Nick had a year left as player personal duties with Pats..that Bill puts his nose into every year..   

  • @the-gipper said:

    I thought they could not block it if it were an upward, and not a lateral move.  I assume GM of the DATs would have been considered upward for him...no?

    It's a good attorney case till Pats filed tampering papers.. https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000001033621/article/patriots-accuse-texans-of-tampering-over-nick-caserio  (<< pats bugged not to open) google Nick Caserio Texans...he should be there next season if O'Brien has anything to do with it?..Nick had a year left as player personal duties with Pats..that Bill puts his nose into every year..   

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    It's a good attorney case till Pats filed tampering papers.. https://nfl.com/news/story/0ap000001033621/article/patroits-accuse-texans-of-tampering-over-nick-caserio google Nick Caserio Texans...he should be there next season if O'Brien has anything to do with it?..Nick had a year left as player personal duties with Pats..that Bill puts his nose into ever year..   

    Well.....certainly BB is a guy who would be petty enough to block a guys upward employment mobility.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I thought they could not block it if it were an upward, and not a lateral move.  I assume GM of the DATs would have been considered upward for him...no?

    It's a good attorney case till Pats filed tampering papers.. https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000001033621/article/patriots-accuse-texans-of-tampering-over-nick-caserio  (<< pats bugged not to open) google Nick Caserio Texans...he should be there next season if O'Brien has anything to do with it?..Nick had a year left as player personal duties with Pats..that Bill puts his nose into every year..   

    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    It's a good attorney case till Pats filed tampering papers.. https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000001033621/article/patriots-accuse-texans-of-tampering-over-nick-caserio  (<< pats bugged not to open) google Nick Caserio Texans...he should be there next season if O'Brien has anything to do with it?..Nick had a year left as player personal duties with Pats..that Bill puts his nose into every year..   

    Pretty sure it was because they were engaging with him while Pat's were still playing, which is tampering.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
    #37

    Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

  • Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
    #38

    @unsympathetic said:

    Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

    Which is why they now have Steve Spagnuolo... Try saying that name, 10x's real fast... LOL!!

  • Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @unsympathetic said:

    Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

    The Browns pulled their offer off the table because Schwartz talked to another team. And Schwartz did in fact come back to the Browns to accept the offer, but was told "too late" by Sashi.......

    Possibly the worst free agency day by any team ever.....Browns couldnt retain their players(Mack, Schwartz, Benjiman, Gipson) and signed no one......

    One of Sashis many screwed up deals....or non-deals...depending on how you look at it....

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Schwartz took less money from KC to leave town.  Sashi's offer was the most money.

    Schwartz leaving to KC isn't on Sashi.

    The Browns pulled their offer off the table because Schwartz talked to another team. And Schwartz did in fact come back to the Browns to accept the offer, but was told "too late" by Sashi.......

    Possibly the worst free agency day by any team ever.....Browns couldnt retain their players(Mack, Schwartz, Benjiman, Gipson) and signed no one......

    One of Sashis many screwed up deals....or non-deals...depending on how you look at it....

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    The Browns pulled their offer off the table because Schwartz talked to another team. And Schwartz did in fact come back to the Browns to accept the offer, but was told "too late" by Sashi.......

    Possibly the worst free agency day by any team ever.....Browns couldnt retain their players(Mack, Schwartz, Benjiman, Gipson) and signed no one......

    One of Sashis many screwed up deals....or non-deals...depending on how you look at it....

    Sometimes "take it or leave it" works- in this case, it was one of Sashi's pure arrogance moves not welcoming a talented player to come back and take the offer, and it backfired majorly. The OL would be a damnsite better now with the Schwartz on it...  

  • @hoorta said:

     is for a sure fire  franchise  QB.  

    did you read that Mayock gifted Chuckie with adding QB D. Kizer to Raiders? 9bU3.gif   your thoughts? Did they need another QB pinata on hard knocks?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    did you read that Mayock gifted Chuckie with adding QB D. Kizer to Raiders?  your thoughts? Did they need another QB pinata on hard knocks?

    Have to remember that the retired Chuckie kinda had a thing for Kizer back in his QB school...

    Plus Kizer looks pretty good compared to Glennon and Peterson. Especially in the "take charge" and "willingness to throw downfield" criteria Jon loves to emphasize.