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National opinion? Baker interception one of the worst all time? ....A closer look at this.

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  • @hoorta said:

    You are  what your  record says you are. Losses to two  very  good teams  by self  inflicted wounds.

    Well, they have lost to 4 very good teams.  The two teams that were in the Super Bowl last year,   another that is still undefeated, and another to a team that is 6-2  (and should be 7-1...if they had not done the same thing....lose due to self inflicted wounds.)

    OK, som maybe they are not quite on that level yet...the first year in.  Only the Tennessee loss is the one that really kinda blows.

    And now we have 9 very winnable games.   But even there, those self inflicted wounds must stop.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Well, they have lost to 4 very good teams.  The two teams that were in the Super Bowl last year,   another that is still undefeated, and another to a team that is 6-2  (and should be 7-1...if they had not done the same thing....lose due to self inflicted wounds.)

    OK, som maybe they are not quite on that level yet...the first year in.  Only the Tennessee loss is the one that really kinda blows.

    And now we have 9 very winnable games.   But even there, those self inflicted wounds must stop.

    Good points they lost to good teams they ironic part is that they could have been in the games or even won maybe 5 or 6 of those games.

    I saw a great coach long ago once say that almost every game comes down to 3 or 4 key plays and if they go your way you probably win if not you just lost.

    The BROWNS should not be a 2-5 team......but they are.

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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    It is.. what it is.

  • CoachToadC CoachToad wrote on last edited by
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    You have to admit though it was pretty funny. The ball travelled maybe 5 feet. It kinda reminded me of the Sanchez butt fumble. We are going to see that alot the next few years.

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    Hardly worst ever.  It was an idiotic play design in bad weather.  

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    Hate to admit it but l saw flashes of Weeden with that shuffle pass interception.

  • Hate to admit it but l saw flashes of Weeden with that shuffle pass interception.

    CoachToadC CoachToad wrote on last edited by
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    Hate to admit it but l saw flashes of Weeden with that shuffle pass interception.

    You are a true fan. Gotta bleed with your team bru

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    The worst part was that our best OL was the one who got his ass blown apart and caused the turnover.  We need our best players to start PLAYING like they're the best players.  

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    And  then watching a Progressive Commercial with Baker in it made me even more pissed off.

  • And  then watching a Progressive Commercial with Baker in it made me even more pissed off.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    And  then watching a Progressive Commercial with Baker in it made me even more pissed off.

    Why?

  • You have to admit though it was pretty funny. The ball travelled maybe 5 feet. It kinda reminded me of the Sanchez butt fumble. We are going to see that alot the next few years.

    NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    @coachtoad said:

    You have to admit though it was pretty funny. The ball travelled maybe 5 feet. It kinda reminded me of the Sanchez butt fumble. We are going to see that alot the next few years.

    I laughed because it was even more stupid than the buttfumble. In the buttfumble Sanchez fumbles the ball because Wilfork pushed the Olineman in a bullrush against Sanchez. In the Shovel INT the defender wins the LOS and Baker automatically hands him the ball, not thinking. 

  • WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on last edited by
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    I immediately hit Netflix button on my remote once I saw that garbage. These bums should be ashamed.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Still not as bad as Wheezy's backhanded INT...

    ... but somehow this is not a comfort.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    When Weeden got stuck under the American flag prior to his first NFL game, he should have retired right then. 

  • When Weeden got stuck under the American flag prior to his first NFL game, he should have retired right then. 

    hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    When Weeden got stuck under the American flag prior to his first NFL game, he should have retired right then. 

    I once saw Weeden throw a pass over a WR’s head so bad that they called intentional grounding. 

  • Still not as bad as Wheezy's backhanded INT...

    ... but somehow this is not a comfort.

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Still not as bad as Wheezy's backhanded INT...

    ... but somehow this is not a comfort.

    I was at that game.

    My god was that awful to watch. i'll never forget the feeling.....

  • @tour2ma said:

    Still not as bad as Wheezy's backhanded INT...

    ... but somehow this is not a comfort.

    I was at that game.

    My god was that awful to watch. i'll never forget the feeling.....

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @stillmotion said:

    I was at that game.

    My god was that awful to watch. i'll never forget the feeling.....

    The worst/best thing about that underhanded heave of an interception is that a game or two later WEEDEN ALMOST DID IT AGAIN. 

  • @coachtoad said:

    You have to admit though it was pretty funny. The ball travelled maybe 5 feet. It kinda reminded me of the Sanchez butt fumble. We are going to see that alot the next few years.

    I laughed because it was even more stupid than the buttfumble. In the buttfumble Sanchez fumbles the ball because Wilfork pushed the Olineman in a bullrush against Sanchez. In the Shovel INT the defender wins the LOS and Baker automatically hands him the ball, not thinking. 

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @nero said:

    In the Shovel INT the defender wins the LOS and Baker automatically hands him the ball, not thinking. 

    Shuffle,Shovel,Shuttle? if it's Going to Landry? The play is called a jet sweep. If the ball hits the ground in any of them? it would have been a incomplete pass. It's why in the books, it goes down as a interception. The baffling part still to me is? No team can risk pulling their LT at same time risking this play. Regardless of jiggins brainy breakdown.. Even our pro bowl LG Bitonio has no super cape to jump a half gap towards LT to block Lawrence Guy..BaKe, first option is a handle Or tip option to Chubb. That was the road to take. (chubb reacted & saw it too) Chubb has a green mile in front of him (bottom of video) & OBJ clearing zone in front to block downfield..Baker needed & needs to quit playing Fortnite & start reading defenses on Madden.(notice 3 LB'er alignment at pre-snap, were running a sweep to the Pats strongest side).. It's 1st & 10 & Bake calls for the ball at 9-8 seconds.The check out was for McCary at LT to stay home & block inside and Run Chubb... the rest makes browns history that we just wait to see when it happens ? weekly & yearly  

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    Honestly, that shovel pass INT was just another example of terrible luck. We've run that play before and it worked, and it's actually a really safe play! If it's dropped, it's simply an incomplete pass and no real harm done. This cluster taco happens to result in a pick because God roots for the Patriots I guess...I dunno. The amount of weird, unbelievable shit that happened those 3 plays in a row is absolutely staggering. 

    As crazy as it sounds, we need to make more plays. "Duh Jiggins, thanks!" But seriously, we have no down field passing, we're not explosive at all, and we don't score touchdowns. We've GOT to get OBJ the ball down the field way more. We need to find a way to get points, but help is on the way. Weather will be perfect this weekend, Baker actually looked pretty decent (compare him to Sam Darnold...yo) and I HAVE to believe some of the penalties and turnovers will be rectified. 

    Like I said in another post, we're going to beat the BRAKES off the Broncos Sunday. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    The worst thing about all the mistakes and poor decisions is that the game came after a bye week. 

    Nothing got fixed, boys. Nothing. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    It all starts with blocking up front. The Browns offensive line as a whole has breakdowns. Like I've said before,

    Peyton Manning threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game - when his offensive line was outmatched badly.

    Outside of free agency - I figure the draft will go LT, RT, and ROG.

    But having said that, the shovel pass ...Baker should have just kept it and improvised on the instant of the total asinine breakdown.