Baker attacks Cleveland media, walks out
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Hate to tell you Vince Lombardi is dead. And we don't know what goes on in team meetings...
Grossi and Mary Kay Rabbit are not his friends.
Yes they are...
Winning cures a lot of "attitude" problems. Some of the biggest jerks in the history of the NFL got away with it because they played on winning teams.
I'll give you some history Coach. Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for being a jerk. Hooked up with ESPN. Care to believe he's not POed for getting shit-canned by the local paper? Guess again. He has no sources anymore from inside with the team- but he does have a press pass. Him and Mary Kay Cabot are just looking for openings to pile on. They're experts on feeding crap to the local dim-bulbs who want Freddie fired and Baker replaced.
You want anything 1\2 objective? Read Terry Pluto or Dan Labbe.
I appreciate the context. The media is full of jerks. He sounds like a D bag. My earlier point is you can get away with being moody and pissy when you are winning. When you are losing it makes your team and support system lose confidence in you. It looks like panic. It often is. Ryan Leaf talks about this in a pretty honest way. Mayfield is a good kid that is probably a little scared. He just needs to reel it in a little.
This is my opinion and I have never met him so I could be totally misreading the situation.
I appreciate the context. The media is full of jerks. He sounds like a D bag. My earlier point is you can get away with being moody and pissy when you are winning. When you are losing it makes your team and support system lose confidence in you. It looks like panic. It often is. Ryan Leaf talks about this in a pretty honest way. Mayfield is a good kid that is probably a little scared. He just needs to reel it in a little.
This is my opinion and I have never met him so I could be totally misreading the situation.
Yes...it IS just your opinion and you certainly COULD be misreading the situation. Could Baker act more mature? Sure....he could just ignore the stupid questions. Will he do that someday? Probably, when he has been playing for longer than just a bit over a year. Would NO ONE care about any of this if they were winning? Damn straight. But, again, it is an ASSholeumption to think that because of this little tiff with a reporter that the team will lose confidence in him. He is in there battling with them practically 24/7. Will a big overreaction by media change their view of him? I believe not one whit.
(and remember...it is the media that is reporting and commenting on this. And the media protects their own)
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I'm not going to quote anyone or mention anything about the use of Spanish in this thread (I'm still shivering), so here's my opinion:
Baker needs to speak on the field, not outside the field. What we see from him is twitter battles, media fights and a shitload of commercials. Then comes the game and he plays like a rookie, worse than he did when he actually was one.
The question is stupid, but he should have said "no comment" and should have swallowed his pride.
It's hard for us fans to defend someone who is so outspoken and then doesn't perform where it really matters. Even if he played well against New England, he made an awful shovel pass to a defender.
Keep quiet and let your work and game do the talking.
I'm not going to quote anyone or mention anything about the use of Spanish in this thread (I'm still shivering), so here's my opinion:
Baker needs to speak on the field, not outside the field. What we see from him is twitter battles, media fights and a shitload of commercials. Then comes the game and he plays like a rookie, worse than he did when he actually was one.
The question is stupid, but he should have said "no comment" and should have swallowed his pride.
It's hard for us fans to defend someone who is so outspoken and then doesn't perform where it really matters. Even if he played well against New England, he made an awful shovel pass to a defender.
Keep quiet and let your work and game do the talking.
We could say the same about any of us here commenting....shut up about this....do your jobs. He doesn't need to shut up any more than all of us need to shut up.
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I'll give you some history Coach. Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for being a jerk.
I'll expand on this Coach.
Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for writing on his Twitter feed that ex-Browns owner Randy Lerner was an useless and inept owner.
He was absolutely right.
I'll expand on this Coach.
Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for writing on his Twitter feed that ex-Browns owner Randy Lerner was an useless and inept owner.
He was absolutely right.
He was right. So, basically, he got shit for telling the truth. And now you all are giving Baker shit for telling the truth. Double standard.
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from once being in a locker room.. I prefer taking a full look at the tone of this presser before Grossi speaks
With it being Wednesday, you'd expect questions towards the Denver game. And at the start ,there were & Baker responded fine to even Patriots questions.. I get Tony is a hometown native & all Cleveland all the time. Has a radio show on the flagship station. Sports Time Ohio TV show..But he's no longer with the Cleveland Plain Dealer..Tony writes for ESPN* Cleveland.. again, watch the 7 minute tone of the presser..Than at 7:20:: it is truly a dumb ass question from Grossi.. sure, bakes frustrated and Grossi got enough to print his side of the story
from once being in a locker room.. I prefer taking a full look at the tone of this presser before Grossi speaks
With it being Wednesday, you'd expect questions towards the Denver game. And at the start ,there were & Baker responded fine to even Patriots questions.. I get Tony is a hometown native & all Cleveland all the time. Has a radio show on the flagship station. Sports Time Ohio TV show..But he's no longer with the Cleveland Plain Dealer..Tony writes for ESPN* Cleveland.. again, watch the 7 minute tone of the presser..Than at 7:20:: it is truly a dumb ass question from Grossi.. sure, bakes frustrated and Grossi got enough to print his side of the story
Yup...
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I'll give you some history Coach. Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for being a jerk.
I'll expand on this Coach.
Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for writing on his Twitter feed that ex-Browns owner Randy Lerner was an useless and inept owner.
He was absolutely right.
I'll expand on this Coach.
Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for writing on his Twitter feed that ex-Browns owner Randy Lerner was an useless and inept owner.
He was absolutely right.
I can tell you from experience, if you follow Grossi on Twitter and disagree with him one iota....the asshat will block you.
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I'll expand on this Coach.
Grossi got fired from the Cleveland Plain Dealer for writing on his Twitter feed that ex-Browns owner Randy Lerner was an useless and inept owner.
He was absolutely right.
I can tell you from experience, if you follow Grossi on Twitter and disagree with him one iota....the asshat will block you.
I can tell you from experience, if you follow Grossi on Twitter and disagree with him one iota....the asshat will block you.
back in the day, the Akron Beacon had a negative nelli named Tom Melody, a real downer and critic of...everything Browns.
eventually, he ended up off sports. Really so much like Tony "the gross one" - his questions and takes are just worthless.
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Baker does have issues.....which we could dissect, but basically, making mistakes, not seeing the field properly...and etc. I certainly am not saying he doesn't have problems that need to be corrected.
But hating to lose, and being passionate about that fact are NOT on the same planet of the causes of his problems.
You get it right. Nobody wants him to like losing. You get that right? If not it is time to move on. You sound like a total dumbass. It is how he acts in public. Jesus dude. Have you ever played anything? Led anything.
You get it right. Nobody wants him to like losing. You get that right? If not it is time to move on. You sound like a total dumbass. It is how he acts in public. Jesus dude. Have you ever played anything? Led anything.
Sorry but I can relate to Baker's attitude. I was the same way when I played tennis on on the collegiate level. To my knowledge I still hold the unofficial University of Dayton record racket toss I was so pissed off. Over two courts and a 15' high tree.
I appreciate the context. The media is full of jerks. He sounds like a D bag. My earlier point is you can get away with being moody and pissy when you are winning. When you are losing it makes your team and support system lose confidence in you. It looks like panic. It often is. Ryan Leaf talks about this in a pretty honest way. Mayfield is a good kid that is probably a little scared. He just needs to reel it in a little.
This is my opinion and I have never met him so I could be totally misreading the situation.
I'll have to give Baker a little bit of a pass this time. Since High School he's done nothing but win. First time he's facing extended adversity, and not dealing with it at all well. Grossi wasn't helping much. May as well have asked Baker- hey, the National Media thinks you suck- what you have to say about that?
Grossi seems to have no fans, but was this particular question out of bounds or appropriate? Seriously.
Should have done the response Belichick frequently gives.... "We're moving on to Denver". "We're moving on to Denver". "We're moving on to Denver". "We're moving on to Denver".
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I can tell you from experience, if you follow Grossi on Twitter and disagree with him one iota....the asshat will block you.
back in the day, the Akron Beacon had a negative nelli named Tom Melody, a real downer and critic of...everything Browns.
eventually, he ended up off sports. Really so much like Tony "the gross one" - his questions and takes are just worthless.
back in the day, the Akron Beacon had a negative nelli named Tom Melody, a real downer and critic of...everything Browns.
eventually, he ended up off sports. Really so much like Tony "the gross one" - his questions and takes are just worthless.
Actually, Melody didn't leave sports....he became the outdoors reporter for the BJ....fishing/hunting etc. The thing is, covering that was tantamount to leaving sports....but it was actually something that he much preferred to do. I know because he lived in Norton and was a good friend of my legal associate and mentor.
He just died here in March.
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Final words are my first words:
He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules. Your perception is irrelevent. Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters. And that is ALL that is on display here.
Final words are my first words:
He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules. Your perception is irrelevent. Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters. And that is ALL that is on display here.
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
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Final words are my first words:
He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules. Your perception is irrelevent. Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters. And that is ALL that is on display here.
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
on a much sadder note....another baker made the news today according to my wife...she heard that ginger baker passed away....man was he a great drummer or what....and played with one of the greatest bass players and of course mr. eric clapton....man am i getting old...
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regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
on a much sadder note....another baker made the news today according to my wife...she heard that ginger baker passed away....man was he a great drummer or what....and played with one of the greatest bass players and of course mr. eric clapton....man am i getting old...
on a much sadder note....another baker made the news today according to my wife...she heard that ginger baker passed away....man was he a great drummer or what....and played with one of the greatest bass players and of course mr. eric clapton....man am i getting old...
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
on a much sadder note....another baker made the news today according to my wife...she heard that ginger baker passed away....man was he a great drummer or what....and played with one of the greatest bass players and of course mr. eric clapton....man am i getting old...
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
didn't know it was that long ago.....maybe my wife forgot to tell me that day....we are both getting older, so it makes sense....hahahahahaaaa
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Bill just LOVES the media!!!
I love to hear/watch his pressers!! Talk about showing them the respect they deserve!! ?
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Final words are my first words:
He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules. Your perception is irrelevent. Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters. And that is ALL that is on display here.
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
regardless gip.....things seem to be falling apart at the seams for whatever reasons....680 the fan down here in hotlanta were saying mayfield is on a losing team so he has no reason to go off like he did...me...i don't even know what he said...and don't care really....i just have a real bad feeling about what may take place very soon and it ain't gunna bees gooood.....they better win on sunday or the shit is going to hit the fan....mayfield....yodell and coachie coach...its all coming to a head...look out below...
See the video to see what he said. judge for yourself.
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on a much sadder note....another baker made the news today according to my wife...she heard that ginger baker passed away....man was he a great drummer or what....and played with one of the greatest bass players and of course mr. eric clapton....man am i getting old...
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
Ginger Baker died early this month, just a day after Larry Junstrom passed away.
I don't know that I had heard about it either....but I had been out of touch really for like almost 2 weeks with my trip to Wyoming.
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Bill just LOVES the media!!!
I love to hear/watch his pressers!! Talk about showing them the respect they deserve!! ?
Mike
Bill just LOVES the media!!!
I love to hear/watch his pressers!! Talk about showing them the respect they deserve!! ?
Mike
Basically the same shit that Mayfield did. I guess BB must be losing the respect of his players.
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Baker needs to be watching how Kyler Murray plays the game. He just made a throw that Baker can only dream of for a 90 yard TD against the team we couldn't get a 1st down.
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Baker needs to be watching how Kyler Murray plays the game. He just made a throw that Baker can only dream of for a 90 yard TD against the team we couldn't get a 1st down.
Baker needs to be watching how Kyler Murray plays the game. He just made a throw that Baker can only dream of for a 90 yard TD against the team we couldn't get a 1st down.
AZ may have lost, but they are up and coming. I think Murray is special, Baker has to operate with a BAD OL. And, to be fair, Baker has missed when he did have time and open receivers.
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