WEEK 16 - BROWNS and NFL injury report and BAL at CLE a 10 point underdog, 9.5 back to 10.

[mjp28]

TUESDAY NOON REPORT, subject to change of course.

Cleveland Browns

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Eric Murray	S	Dec 17	Questionable
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 17	Questionable
Kendall Lamm	OT	Dec 15	Questionable	Lamm was forced out of Sunday's game against the Cardinals with a knee injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
Ricky Seals-Jones	TE	Dec 15	Questionable	Seals-Jones was forced out of Sunday's game against the Cardinals with a shoulder injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.

 

Baltimore Ravens

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Ronnie Stanley	OT	Dec 17	Questionable
Chris Board	LB	Dec 17	Questionable

[mjp28]

Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)

Team	Odds
Baltimore Ravens	9/4
New Orleans Saints	4/1
San Francisco 49ers	6/1
New England Patriots	7/1
Kansas City Chiefs	8/1
Seattle Seahawks	10/1
Green Bay Packers	14/1
Minnesota Vikings	20/1
Dallas Cowboys	30/1
Buffalo Bills	40/1
Houston Texans	40/1
Philadelphia Eagles	60/1
Pittsburgh Steelers	100/1
Tennessee Titans	100/1
Los Angeles Rams	1000/1
Oakland Raiders	2000/1

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)

Team	Odds
Baltimore Ravens	9/4
New Orleans Saints	4/1
San Francisco 49ers	6/1
New England Patriots	7/1
Kansas City Chiefs	8/1
Seattle Seahawks	10/1
Green Bay Packers	14/1
Minnesota Vikings	20/1
Dallas Cowboys	30/1
Buffalo Bills	40/1
Houston Texans	40/1
Philadelphia Eagles	60/1
Pittsburgh Steelers	100/1
Tennessee Titans	100/1
Los Angeles Rams	1000/1
Oakland Raiders	2000/1

Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

[hoorta]

@the-gipper said:

Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

Yea, But, I think the Browns technically have a better percentage odds than the Raiders.   A scintalla of a percentage better?

(or, is it just that the Raiders are now moving to Vegas, no matter what they are going to give them odds.?)

[Kvoethe]

Over under how many passing attempts by Browns...

Ill say 60.

We will be playing catch up all game..

[Dutch Oven]

Zombo said:

10 points? Back up the truck on the Browns.

Z

The truck has been backed up on the Browns weeks ago. 

Backed up, pulled forward, backed up on again. 

[mjp28]

@hoorta said:

 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

Those are the betting odds not any mathematical odds on making the playoffs, they can be similar at times but not the same.

And yes the BROWNS may just be not published by any sportsbooks.

[mjp28]

Back to betting odds December 18, 2019.  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)

Team	Odds
Baltimore Ravens	2/3
Kansas City Chiefs	7/2
New England Patriots	7/2
Buffalo Bills	20/1
Houston Texans	20/1
Pittsburgh Steelers	50/1
Tennessee Titans	50/1
Oakland Raiders	1000/1

 

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)

Team	Odds
New Orleans Saints	7/4
San Francisco 49ers	12/5
Seattle Seahawks	4/1
Green Bay Packers	7/1
Minnesota Vikings	9/1
Dallas Cowboys	15/1
Philadelphia Eagles	30/1
Los Angeles Rams	500/1

How to Bet on NFL Futures....it works something like this......

Who’s going to win the Super Bowl? One of the most popular questions often asked by anybody and everybody that bets on NFL Futures, especially online bettors from the United States. Answering that question isn’t easy but placing wagers on NFL Future odds can be done on “Any Given Sunday” and every other day too. Put simply, the Futures market for the NFL is always open. The opening market is set by oddsmakers after the following season has ended in February, sometimes even while the current season hasn’t been completed yet in late January. For the most part, the initial betting lines are mirrored based on what the current perception of the team is after the latest season and that’s where the value can be had.

How do I bet on the Super Bowl?

We know that you can bet on the Super Bowl and all of NFL Futures at any time of the year, but what’s the process. The future wager or the “Odds to Win” bet on the Super Bowl is correctly selecting a team to win an event that takes place at a later time. A bettor will have his wagered money tied up until there is an outcome and bettors will receive fixed odds when they place the wager. In the case of the Super Bowl, you’re not a winner or loser until you see zeros on the clock in the final game.

Most sportsbooks offer different ways to read to Super Bowl Odds. In the fractional NFL Futures Odds format below, you simply take the odds and multiply by the amount wagered.

Ex. Green Bay (8/1) to win the Super Bowl

The Packers are listed as an 8/1 betting choice to win the Super Bowl. If you wager $100 on Green Bay to win the NFC and they capture the championship, then you would win $800 (8 ÷ 1 x 100). Your online betting account would then credit your account $900, which includes your win and stake ($100).

The American Format would see Green Bay listed at +800 and for the Decimal Format, the Packers would be 9.00.

[The Gipper]

I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

[Tour2ma]

Couple things I had not realized about the Ravens...

1. They last lost in Week 4 to us.
2. In addition to trading for Marcus Peters they made 5 other moves on the D-side...

The defense that Baltimore will bring to Cleveland on Sunday looks far different than what the Browns saw in September. Within days of losing to Cleveland, the Ravens signed two inside linebackers who have helped stabilize the run defense – Josh Bynes and L.J. Fort. They have also added three physical defensive linemen since the Cleveland game – Jihad Ward, Domata Peko and Justin Ellis. Trading for Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Peters in October, along with the return of cornerback Jimmy Smith from an early-season knee injury, has given Baltimore the league’s deepest secondary.

The Ravens have the NFL’s top-ranked defense since Week 4, and now come in at No. 6 in total defense. After that Cleveland game, they were ranked No. 27.

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/ravens-look-to-avenge-september-loss-to-browns

Oh well... no one said it'd be easy...

[mjp28]

THURSDAY 3 PM, read 'em and weep ?

Cleveland Browns, 11 ?

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 19	Questionable	Vernon (knee) was limited at Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
Sheldon Richardson	DT	Dec 18	Questionable	Richardson (back) didn't participate in Wednesday's practice, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
Jarvis Landry	WR	Dec 18	Questionable	Landry (hip) was limited at practice Wednesday, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
Odell Beckham Jr.	WR	Dec 18	Questionable	Beckham (groin) was limited at practice Wednesday, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
Denzel Ward	CB	Dec 18	Questionable
Dontrell Hilliard	RB	Dec 18	Questionable
Chris Hubbard	OT	Dec 18	Questionable
Tae Davis	LB	Dec 18	Questionable
Kendall Lamm	OT	Dec 18	Questionable	Lamm (knee) won't participate in Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
JC Tretter	C	Dec 18	Questionable	Tretter (knee) won't practice Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
Eric Murray	S	Dec 17	Questionable

 

Baltimore Ravens,  one? Only one goddam player ?  (In my Harry Doyle voice. )

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Ronnie Stanley	OT	Dec 19	Questionable	Stanley (concussion) was a full practice participant Wednesday, Jonas Shaffer of The Baltimore Sun reports.

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)

Team	Odds
Baltimore Ravens	9/4
New Orleans Saints	4/1
San Francisco 49ers	6/1
New England Patriots	7/1
Kansas City Chiefs	8/1
Seattle Seahawks	10/1
Green Bay Packers	14/1
Minnesota Vikings	20/1
Dallas Cowboys	30/1
Buffalo Bills	40/1
Houston Texans	40/1
Philadelphia Eagles	60/1
Pittsburgh Steelers	100/1
Tennessee Titans	100/1
Los Angeles Rams	1000/1
Oakland Raiders	2000/1

Just for comparison and maybe you want to stay in the state of Ohio.......

College Football Futures Betting Lines

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures

 

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/6/20)

Team	Odds
LSU Tigers	7/5
Clemson Tigers	2/1
Ohio State Buckeyes	3/1
Oklahoma Sooners	16/1

[Icecube]

@the-gipper said:

I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

[The Gipper]

@icecube said:

Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

I am actually traveling that day from Sedona to LV....so I don't know if I will be at my resort by the time the game starts.

[Icecube]

@the-gipper said:

I am actually traveling that day from Sedona to LV....so I don't know if I will be at my resort by the time the game starts.

Doesn't matter, you'll still be there for the festivities. It's the most happening place to be SB weekend besides the actual SB city. Probably better in some ways. 

[mjp28]

FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

Cleveland Browns

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 20	Questionable	Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

Cleveland Browns

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 20	Questionable	Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.

Per what I just heard a while ago on the radio, the RFs do not have a single person listed on their injury list.

Hopefully that will not be the case after the game.

[Tour2ma]

@mjp28 said:

FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 20	Questionable	Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.

Olivier Vernon, a gametime decision vs. Ravens, says he didn’t have a setback

BEREA, Ohio -- Browns defensive end Olivier Vernon tried to get back on the field against the Steelers on Dec. 1. He said it was his choice to try and play and, even though he only managed 10 snaps and hasn’t played since, didn’t have a setback.

Vernon is officially listed as questionable and said it all depends how he feels Sunday morning.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/olivier-vernon-a-gametime-decision-vs-ravens-says-he-didnt-have-a-setback-and-everything-else-we-learned-about-the-browns-on-friday.html

[mjp28]

SATURDAY 11:30 AM, and yes three NFL games today starting at 1 pm on the NFL Net.

Cleveland Browns

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Eric Murray	S	Dec 20	Questionable	Murray (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against Baltimore, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
Kendall Lamm	OT	Dec 20	Questionable	Lamm (knee) is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
Dontrell Hilliard	RB	Dec 20	Questionable	Hilliard has a neck injury and is questionable for Sunday's game versus the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
Olivier Vernon	DE	Dec 20	Questionable	Vernon (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
Sheldon Richardson	DT	Dec 20	Questionable	Richardson (back) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
JC Tretter	C	Dec 18	Questionable	Tretter (knee) won't practice Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.

 

Baltimore Ravens

 

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Chris Board	LB	Dec 20	Questionable	Board (concussion) is expected to play Sunday, Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com reports.
Ronnie Stanley	OT	Dec 20	Questionable	Stanley (concussion) is expected to suit up Sunday against the Browns, Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com reports.