Our Bet, Draft specuation
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Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
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Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
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WSS
Yea, maybe, a bit of a different one though.
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The original proposition was the Bengals draft young at 1 vs the Bengals draft burrow at 1. Not young will be drafted at 1 vs Burrow will be drafted at 1. So you're statement above isn't sticking to the original proposition. Its changing the original proposition.
I agree that by the Bengals trading the #1 pick, the original proposition is changed. We/I never thought about the possibility of the Bengals trading down until I heard it stated on the radio.Nope....if the Bengals don't pick Young at #1, you lose. It's that simple. Quit trying to manipulate the jury.
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And if the Bengals trade the pick, it's a wash.
No team in their right mind is going to trade up to #1 just to take Young.
Our bet aside, why not? He is considered the most dominant defensive player to be available since....I don't know what. I think he rated higher than Miles Garrett. If a franchise QB is not your necessity.....but a monster DE is.....then why not try for him?
Maybe you can say that the Bengals should never trade the rights to Burrows, and maybe you are right....but that does not mean that other teams should not inquire, or even make offers. Right now, per early reports, those two: Burrows and Young are the creme de la creme of available talent it seems.
It seems possible that teams at the bottom can be as competitive as teams at the top. Teams want that #1 seed.....and, this year, teams want either that #1 or #2 draft pick. As good, perhaps, as they may be, the likes of Jeff Okudah DB, Andrew Thomas OT, Jerry Jeudy WR, are not considered the prospects that Burrows and Young are, are they?
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And if the Bengals trade the pick, it's a wash.
No team in their right mind is going to trade up to #1 just to take Young.
Our bet aside, why not? He is considered the most dominant defensive player to be available since....I don't know what. I think he rated higher than Miles Garrett. If a franchise QB is not your necessity.....but a monster DE is.....then why not try for him?
Maybe you can say that the Bengals should never trade the rights to Burrows, and maybe you are right....but that does not mean that other teams should not inquire, or even make offers. Right now, per early reports, those two: Burrows and Young are the creme de la creme of available talent it seems.
It seems possible that teams at the bottom can be as competitive as teams at the top. Teams want that #1 seed.....and, this year, teams want either that #1 or #2 draft pick. As good, perhaps, as they may be, the likes of Jeff Okudah DB, Andrew Thomas OT, Jerry Jeudy WR, are not considered the prospects that Burrows and Young are, are they?
Our bet aside, why not? He is considered the most dominant defensive player to be available since....I don't know what. I think he rated higher than Miles Garrett. If a franchise QB is not your necessity.....but a monster DE is.....then why not try for him?
Maybe you can say that the Bengals should never trade the rights to Burrows, and maybe you are right....but that does not mean that other teams should not inquire, or even make offers. Right now, per early reports, those two: Burrows and Young are the creme de la creme of available talent it seems.
It seems possible that teams at the bottom can be as competitive as teams at the top. Teams want that #1 seed.....and, this year, teams want either that #1 or #2 draft pick. As good, perhaps, as they may be, the likes of Jeff Okudah DB, Andrew Thomas OT, Jerry Jeudy WR, are not considered the prospects that Burrows and Young are, are they?
With the #1 pick, Cinci can start talking to prospects as soon as they have an agent. Of course other teams can ask the Bengals what they want for the #1 pick, and the Bengals can ask for something so ridiculous, no one will give them what they want. AND- here's why the Giants won't- and can't move up from #4 to #1 JUST for Young. The draft value chart says it would cost them their #4, the second and third round picks this year, and a first next year. That's just to move up three spots. QB needy teams lower down in the draft order won't possibly be able to offer the Bengals enough to move up that high.
Young- best since Kahlil Mack. Same size as Garrett. We'll see how he's rated after the combine. Sure, clearly the best defensive prospect in a couple years. But as I said-
1) The Bengals are much further along on defense as opposed to offense.
2) It's a damn near certainty Cinci is moving on from Dalton, they can trade or cut him in 2020 with no cap repercussions. (I'm seeing that almost dally down here in the local news)
3) In the 2017 draft when Garrett with #1 overall, there wasn't a QB prospect anywhere close to where Joe is going to be rated. You can bet the ranch with 20\20 hindsight, based on current NFL production, the Browns would have taken Mahomes over Myles. Pre draft Myles was a 7X prospect as opposed to Pat's 5X. Shit, NFL.com thought he might go in the second round.
4) With Dalton gone- it's a foregone conclusion they're taking a QB.
and we beat Mahomes to death in draft prospects - here's the negatives....
WEAKNESSES
Can be inconsistent in his approach. Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline. Too eager to go big game hunting. Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble. Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm. Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him. Decision making can go from good to bad in a moment's notice. Operates from a narrow base and allows his upper body and arm to race ahead of his feet. Has a dip and wind-up in his standard release. Explosive delivery and follow-through causes some throws to sail. Needs better touch on intermediate and deep balls. Carries ball a little low in the pocket. Impatient. Will leave pocket prematurely rather than standing in and winning in rhythm. Better as a scrambler than pure runner. Looked a little less mobile in the open field this season.
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Well you are saying that you think that Burrows is a lock at #1 to Bengals....and that Young is a lock at #2. Who then do the Lions and Giants go for?
Here is one top 5:
1 Joe Burrow - QB 2 Chase Young - EDGE 3 Andrew Thomas - OT 4 Jeffrey Okudah - CB 5 Tua Tagovailoa - QB -
Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
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Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
Or do you mean we will see how Clemsons offense of lineman fare against the best defensive lineman they face all year
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If the Bengals like Burrow they will not make a trade. And if they see something they don’t like you turn the card in for Young.
And If they got too greedy I would expect some QB starving team to jump ahead of them should they move out of the Top spot and try to take Burrow later.
The only way the Bengals lose this draft is if they miss out on a chance for either Burrow or Young.
If the Bengals like Burrow they will not make a trade. And if they see something they don’t like you turn the card in for Young.
And If they got too greedy I would expect some QB starving team to jump ahead of them should they move out of the Top spot and try to take Burrow later.
The only way the Bengals lose this draft is if they miss out on a chance for either Burrow or Young.Odds are that they take Burrow, but... there's always a chance that they like another QB equally well or even slightly better.
Say they like Tua a lot and their Medical folks clear him. In that case they can trade down a few slots. If Hebert is there guy they can trade down further.
No way can I see them taking Young, with the QB talent in this draft and their need at the position.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
That’s right you said Burrow number one to the Bengals you didn’t say Burrow number two or number three or number four.
Gipper you are definitely trying to muddy the waters in your original post in here you said that Larry said the BENGALS would take burrow at 1 and you said the BENGALS would take young at 1. Seems to be the bet was made based on who the BENGALS would pick at 1 not just who the pick at number 1 would be. If you made that exact bet in vegas and the Bengals traded out of the number 1 pick the bet would be void.
Gipper you are definitely trying to muddy the waters in your original post in here you said that Larry said the BENGALS would take burrow at 1 and you said the BENGALS would take young at 1. Seems to be the bet was made based on who the BENGALS would pick at 1 not just who the pick at number 1 would be. If you made that exact bet in vegas and the Bengals traded out of the number 1 pick the bet would be void.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
lol... Nah.... it's a "Gipper-gotta-be-Gipper" thread.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
Young's stock doesn't depend on his production tonite... not in the slightest. He's going to be the first non-QB off the board.
Tua's interesting, because he was in the conversation for #1 overall before his hip dislocated... despite his prior injuries last season.
Apparently the repair of the hip went very well and a full recovery is expected. So it is likely that he will be medically cleared by both the League and every team that looks at him.
However, the questions every team will be left to contemplate is his injury history. Is he "injury prone"? 2018 saw him battle knee sprains much of the season before the late season surgical repair miracle of his ankle, which he then played on... obviously prematurely.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Regarding Tua, it will depend a bunch on what teams think about his injury. Freak occurence or red flag. OSUs Okodah is slated to go top 10.
And I've already said, draft slotting is subject to change based on the playoffs. We'll see how Young fares Saturday against Clemson's OT who's probably the best offensive lineman he's gone up against all year.
Young's stock doesn't depend on his production tonite... not in the slightest. He's going to be the first non-QB off the board.
Tua's interesting, because he was in the conversation for #1 overall before his hip dislocated... despite his prior injuries last season.
Apparently the repair of the hip went very well and a full recovery is expected. So it is likely that he will be medically cleared by both the League and every team that looks at him.
However, the questions every team will be left to contemplate is his injury history. Is he "injury prone"? 2018 saw him battle knee sprains much of the season before the late season surgical repair miracle of his ankle, which he then played on... obviously prematurely.
Young's stock doesn't depend on his production tonite... not in the slightest. He's going to be the first non-QB off the board.
Tua's interesting, because he was in the conversation for #1 overall before his hip dislocated... despite his prior injuries last season.
Apparently the repair of the hip went very well and a full recovery is expected. So it is likely that he will be medically cleared by both the League and every team that looks at him.
However, the questions every team will be left to contemplate is his injury history. Is he "injury prone"? 2018 saw him battle knee sprains much of the season before the late season surgical repair miracle of his ankle, which he then played on... obviously prematurely.
Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
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If the Bengals like Burrow they will not make a trade. And if they see something they don’t like you turn the card in for Young.
And If they got too greedy I would expect some QB starving team to jump ahead of them should they move out of the Top spot and try to take Burrow later.
The only way the Bengals lose this draft is if they miss out on a chance for either Burrow or Young.Odds are that they take Burrow, but... there's always a chance that they like another QB equally well or even slightly better.
Say they like Tua a lot and their Medical folks clear him. In that case they can trade down a few slots. If Hebert is there guy they can trade down further.
No way can I see them taking Young, with the QB talent in this draft and their need at the position.
Odds are that they take Burrow, but... there's always a chance that they like another QB equally well or even slightly better.
Say they like Tua a lot and their Medical folks clear him. In that case they can trade down a few slots. If Hebert is there guy they can trade down further.
No way can I see them taking Young, with the QB talent in this draft and their need at the position.
PS- after tonight- there is no way in hell the Bengals won't take Joe. I'll trade Baker for him right now, straight up. Better physical measurables, and Joe shows the same accuracy on the move.
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Gipper you are definitely trying to muddy the waters in your original post in here you said that Larry said the BENGALS would take burrow at 1 and you said the BENGALS would take young at 1. Seems to be the bet was made based on who the BENGALS would pick at 1 not just who the pick at number 1 would be. If you made that exact bet in vegas and the Bengals traded out of the number 1 pick the bet would be void.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
lol... Nah.... it's a "Gipper-gotta-be-Gipper" thread.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
lol... Nah.... it's a "Gipper-gotta-be-Gipper" thread.
Yes, it is a Gipper gotta be Gipper thread: ergo it is a smart, analytical, entertaining thread.
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Gipper you are definitely trying to muddy the waters in your original post in here you said that Larry said the BENGALS would take burrow at 1 and you said the BENGALS would take young at 1. Seems to be the bet was made based on who the BENGALS would pick at 1 not just who the pick at number 1 would be. If you made that exact bet in vegas and the Bengals traded out of the number 1 pick the bet would be void.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
lol... Nah.... it's a "Gipper-gotta-be-Gipper" thread.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Yeah im positive. On draft day you make bets on picks as they are happening. I have had my money come back to me because of a trade on draft day. With the Bengals going on the clock if the bet is the exact same the only two options that would come up is burrow -200 young +800. If a trade happened the bet would be void as that wasn't one of the options given. The only way you would lose your money on the bet is if pick traded was given odds.
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Young's stock doesn't depend on his production tonite... not in the slightest. He's going to be the first non-QB off the board.
Tua's interesting, because he was in the conversation for #1 overall before his hip dislocated... despite his prior injuries last season.
Apparently the repair of the hip went very well and a full recovery is expected. So it is likely that he will be medically cleared by both the League and every team that looks at him.
However, the questions every team will be left to contemplate is his injury history. Is he "injury prone"? 2018 saw him battle knee sprains much of the season before the late season surgical repair miracle of his ankle, which he then played on... obviously prematurely.
Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
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Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
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The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
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Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
I did see it..and laughed saying 'where was your crew last night'.. I truly hated the tone of the broadcast official all night..the football move included 2 square feet headed directly up the field, at real time too..Every break, when needed, went Clemson's way...maybe Dabo could toss a few ? up for our browns.... Should be a good final..Joe vs. Bucks could have been epic
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Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
I say that when a QB drops his head like that, then you bring your knee up and ram it into his grill. Can't get called for head to head for that.....and it may be more effective at dealing a harmful blow.
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