Our Bet, Draft specuation
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Gipper you are definitely trying to muddy the waters in your original post in here you said that Larry said the BENGALS would take burrow at 1 and you said the BENGALS would take young at 1. Seems to be the bet was made based on who the BENGALS would pick at 1 not just who the pick at number 1 would be. If you made that exact bet in vegas and the Bengals traded out of the number 1 pick the bet would be void.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Maybe I'm wrong but this look like a draft thread. Maybe The word draft in the title threw me.
lol... Nah.... it's a "Gipper-gotta-be-Gipper" thread.
Are you sure about the Vegas thing?
Seems to me that if I put money on "Cin picks PlayerX #1 overall" and they don't for whatever reason, then I lose.
Yeah im positive. On draft day you make bets on picks as they are happening. I have had my money come back to me because of a trade on draft day. With the Bengals going on the clock if the bet is the exact same the only two options that would come up is burrow -200 young +800. If a trade happened the bet would be void as that wasn't one of the options given. The only way you would lose your money on the bet is if pick traded was given odds.
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Young's stock doesn't depend on his production tonite... not in the slightest. He's going to be the first non-QB off the board.
Tua's interesting, because he was in the conversation for #1 overall before his hip dislocated... despite his prior injuries last season.
Apparently the repair of the hip went very well and a full recovery is expected. So it is likely that he will be medically cleared by both the League and every team that looks at him.
However, the questions every team will be left to contemplate is his injury history. Is he "injury prone"? 2018 saw him battle knee sprains much of the season before the late season surgical repair miracle of his ankle, which he then played on... obviously prematurely.
Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
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Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
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The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
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Well Done bjh^^ totally agree with these takes.. As a Buckeye Homer..The Bucks had golden opts to score more points in that first half as well..
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
Are you watching the Dallas Washington game? Right before the half they ruled a pass incomplete it was reviewed and overturned because he got 3 steps down and 3rd step is a football move. I honestly don't know how that one got overturned last night. If it was ruled incomplete on field and stood I don't think people would be as angry other than true buckeye homers. However they saw indisputable evidence that it wasn't a catch when if you pulled 1000 fans/refs that aren't a fan of either team involved I would bet that 60%+ saw it as a catch. The fact that you have multiple officials like mcauly and blandino say it was a catch shows it wasn't indisputable.
I did see it..and laughed saying 'where was your crew last night'.. I truly hated the tone of the broadcast official all night..the football move included 2 square feet headed directly up the field, at real time too..Every break, when needed, went Clemson's way...maybe Dabo could toss a few ? up for our browns.... Should be a good final..Joe vs. Bucks could have been epic
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Young did damn near zero tonight against quality competition. he'll go high- but he's not superman sadly. Too bad OSU. was Freddie calling the all out rush the punter that won the game for Clemson?
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Ok all that being said it didn't cost osu the game. Clemson deserved the win and it was one hell of a ball game. Osu had a chance and if number 17 continues his route on the last pass that got intercepted they likely score the go ahead td with 38 seconds left and that's what cost them the game. Hopefully the errors in officiating opens up a dialogue about some things in the offseason.
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't blame refs for losses but there were some questionable calls last night including that roughing call. Roughing is when you hit the plant leg. It was clear 26 hit the punters kicking leg and should have only been running into. The targeting call was the correct call by rule however the rule needs to change. What number 44 for oklahoma did to Edwards-helare of lsu was an ejectable hit what 24 did to 16 last night was not. Take the 15 yards but don't eject a player just because the player being tackled braces for contact by dipping his head and that causes the helmet to helmet hit. The fumble was the most egregious call. Number 8 caught the ball with his left foot down, right foot hits, he extends the ball away from his body (constitutes a football move), left foot hits, (3rd step constitutes a football move), he starts tucking the ball (you guessed it football move), and as his right foot hits (4th step) number 1 jars the ball loose. The fact they overturned the call on the field is mind boggling. If that happened on the sideline or in the endzone it is absolutely a touchdown. Terry mcauly, one of the most respected officials, addressed all these on his twitter and agrees with my takes.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
Agree with every aspect of your post... but you did not address one point.
Nothing irritates me more than a player ducking himself into a helmet hit that gets called. Last nite we saw a 6'6 QB make himself 5'6 in the headlights of oncoming traffic. The only thing Wade did wrong in my view is drop his head... fully... so the crown led. Gotta see what you hit. Had Wade lead with his facemask there'd have been no call.
I say that when a QB drops his head like that, then you bring your knee up and ram it into his grill. Can't get called for head to head for that.....and it may be more effective at dealing a harmful blow.
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So! I am not the only one speculating about the Bengals dealing the pick:
Joe Brady to Panthers as OC fuels this speculation.
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So! I am not the only one speculating about the Bengals dealing the pick:
Joe Brady to Panthers as OC fuels this speculation.
So! I am not the only one speculating about the Bengals dealing the pick:
Joe Brady to Panthers as OC fuels this speculation.
Please Gipper lame click bait. From the article... RTFLMAO.... BTW, It would take the Panthers entire draft and a couple extra #1s to make it happen.....
"Let me preface this by saying I don't think it will happen. The probability of it going down is extremely low. "
"I was trying to think about which quarterback will grade
above(FIFY below) and I think it's everybody since Andrew Luck. I think he'll have the strongest grade. (PS me and Tour happen to think the same thing)Would the Bengals make this trade?I don't think so. Burrow is a rare prospect. In my opinion, given the Bengals' need at quarterback, Burrow's ascension and his status as a local player, it would be tough to bail on taking him first overall. "
Furthermore, ESPN'S draft guru Todd McShea was at the LSU Clemson game, and stated "THE BENGALS WOULD BE INSANE IF THEY PASSED ON JOE BURROW."
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Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
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Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
And they're completely full of crap posting stuff that has about a 0.001% chance of ever happening just to get advertising clicks..... MHO- right now the odds of the Bengals trading out of #1 are about the same as an asteroid hitting Paul Brown Stadium. Hearken back to Andrew Luck- (even the article put Joe on that level) & I have very little doubt even insane offers are going to get turned down.
Hey- I heard it's a done deal- the Bengals are trading the #1 overall pick to the Browns for Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and two first round picks. Just about as likely,,,, Silly season is officially underway...
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Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
And they're completely full of crap posting stuff that has about a 0.001% chance of ever happening just to get advertising clicks..... MHO- right now the odds of the Bengals trading out of #1 are about the same as an asteroid hitting Paul Brown Stadium. Hearken back to Andrew Luck- (even the article put Joe on that level) & I have very little doubt even insane offers are going to get turned down.
Hey- I heard it's a done deal- the Bengals are trading the #1 overall pick to the Browns for Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and two first round picks. Just about as likely,,,, Silly season is officially underway...
And they're completely full of crap posting stuff that has about a 0.001% chance of ever happening just to get advertising clicks..... MHO- right now the odds of the Bengals trading out of #1 are about the same as an asteroid hitting Paul Brown Stadium. Hearken back to Andrew Luck- (even the article put Joe on that level) & I have very little doubt even insane offers are going to get turned down.
Hey- I heard it's a done deal- the Bengals are trading the #1 overall pick to the Browns for Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and two first round picks. Just about as likely,,,, Silly season is officially underway...
Brady Quinn was one of them.
You know...the guy whose pro career Joe Burrows will mirror
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h.... don't argue... just ask if he wants to double the bet.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
Still....someone was talking and speculating about it. I'm just saying.
I saw Schefter talking about the Bungles trading.
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And they're completely full of crap posting stuff that has about a 0.001% chance of ever happening just to get advertising clicks..... MHO- right now the odds of the Bengals trading out of #1 are about the same as an asteroid hitting Paul Brown Stadium. Hearken back to Andrew Luck- (even the article put Joe on that level) & I have very little doubt even insane offers are going to get turned down.
Hey- I heard it's a done deal- the Bengals are trading the #1 overall pick to the Browns for Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and two first round picks. Just about as likely,,,, Silly season is officially underway...
Brady Quinn was one of them.
You know...the guy whose pro career Joe Burrows will mirror
Brady Quinn was one of them.
You know...the guy whose pro career Joe Burrows will mirror
You obviously forgot my mantra back then- "It's a sin if we draft Quinn".
In general, I hold Notre Dame QBs in low esteem- notwithstanding I hate the school only slightly less than Michigan. Who can forget the mighty Jimmy Clausen (pickle), and if it wouldn't have cost me over $1,000 bucks to replace it- I would have thrown something at the monitor when Jim Brown announced- "with their pick in the second round, the Browns draft Deshone Kizer QB, Notre Dame." I almost barfed, and I won't repeat my string of profanities here.
Care for a side bet that Joe is going to make the all-rookie team?
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Just in case you need some cheering up, h... lol...
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PFF 2020 NFL Mock Draft:
National champion Joe Burrow cements his spot as the first overall pick
1. Cincinnati Bengals — QB Joe Burrow, LSU
The Bengals are the lucky owners of the Burrow lottery ticket. ‘Tank for Tua’ gave way to ‘Bomb for Burrow’ well before Tagovailoa was injured. Burrow is in a stratosphere of his own as a prospect after finishing off the highest-graded quarterback season we’ve ever seen. He added five more big-time throws in the National Championship to bring his total to an FBS-leading 42 on the season.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
A little more expansive PFF write-up from their end of season ranking of all the starting college QBs...
1. Joe Burrow – LSU
Preseason Rank: 17; Week 6 Rank: 1; Week 12 Rank: 1
There has never been a season quite like Burrow’s season in 2019. Not Mayfield. Not Newton. Not Tebow. Not Winston nor Mariota. No season in history has a quarterback risen the way that Burrow did in 2019, and his season was capped by a National Championship victory over Clemson. No season in history has been as decorated as Burrow’s. No season has anyone dominated a set of statistics or advanced analytics the way Burrow did in 2019.
You have to search long and hard to find a category that Burrow isn’t the highest-graded player in the PFF data. He’s the highest-graded player on throws 10 or more yards downfield, the highest-graded player under pressure, the highest-graded player on horizontal leads, the highest-graded player in the first quarter, the most accurate quarterback we’ve ever charted.
The list could go on and on for Burrow and his historic season in 2019 to 2020, but I’ll leave you with the following statement. When the grading criterion for the rest of the quarterbacks went as such: “Where did he rank next to Burrow?” – you know just how special of a season it was for Broadway Jeaux, Joe Burreaux.
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lol... and not too pile on, but I had to share this.
FanSpeak's Draft Sim has a feature after you complete a draft that's let's you see the top 3 prospects that players for each team select with their teams 1st pick.
Here's the list with teams in alphabetical order thru Cleveland...
Most Drafted Players in Round 1 by OTC UsersARIZONA CARDINALS WR Jerry Jeudy
EDGE A.J. Epenesa
OT Tristan WirfsATLANTA FALCONS DL Javon Kinlaw
CB CJ Henderson
CB Kristian FultonBALTIMORE RAVENS LB Kenneth Murray
EDGE James Lynch
EDGE K'Lavon ChaissonBUFFALO BILLS WR Tee Higgins
EDGE Terrell Lewis
OT Austin JacksonCAROLINA PANTHERS OT Andrew Thomas
DL Derrick Brown
QB Tua TagovailoaCHICAGO BEARS N/A CINCINNATI BENGALS QB Joe Burrow CLEVELAND BROWNS LB Isaiah Simmons
OT Jedrick Wills
OT Tristan WirfsEvery player representing Cinci has selected Joe Burrow... every player... there are no 2nd choices. OK... I'm piling on a little.
FYI here's Washington's...
WASHINGTON REDSKINS EDGE Chase Young
CB Jeffrey Okudah -
Just in case you need some cheering up, h... lol...
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PFF 2020 NFL Mock Draft:
National champion Joe Burrow cements his spot as the first overall pick
1. Cincinnati Bengals — QB Joe Burrow, LSU
The Bengals are the lucky owners of the Burrow lottery ticket. ‘Tank for Tua’ gave way to ‘Bomb for Burrow’ well before Tagovailoa was injured. Burrow is in a stratosphere of his own as a prospect after finishing off the highest-graded quarterback season we’ve ever seen. He added five more big-time throws in the National Championship to bring his total to an FBS-leading 42 on the season.
Just in case you need some cheering up, h... lol...
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PFF 2020 NFL Mock Draft:
National champion Joe Burrow cements his spot as the first overall pick
1. Cincinnati Bengals — QB Joe Burrow, LSU
The Bengals are the lucky owners of the Burrow lottery ticket. ‘Tank for Tua’ gave way to ‘Bomb for Burrow’ well before Tagovailoa was injured. Burrow is in a stratosphere of his own as a prospect after finishing off the highest-graded quarterback season we’ve ever seen. He added five more big-time throws in the National Championship to bring his total to an FBS-leading 42 on the season.
The only thing that sucks about this Tour is Joe is going to go to the damn Bengals. Any team but- those fairweather fans don't deserve a talent this great. I mentioned it earlier- there's already unlicensed Burrow jerseys being offered for sale down Cinci way...
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h.... don't argue... just ask if he wants to double the bet.
No but if you wanna put your money where your mouth I will make the same bet with you. If you win you will have to come to the tailgate here to collect just like Larry
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