Next man up
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Greg Roman is interesting
He just directed the offense that got the most yards rushing in history (16 games). He ought to know what to do with Hunt/Chubb. Though we don't have a Lamar Jackson.....he should probably manage.
Speaking of which....why had we not been using D'Ernest Johnson to return kicks instead of the useless Hilliard. Roman could get some use out of Johnson I bet.
He just directed the offense that got the most yards rushing in history (16 games). He ought to know what to do with Hunt/Chubb. Though we don't have a Lamar Jackson.....he should probably manage.
Speaking of which....why had we not been using D'Ernest Johnson to return kicks instead of the useless Hilliard. Roman could get some use out of Johnson I bet.
his name has been brought up several times in the past
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I'm sure there are a thousand of these speculation pieces from clickbait.com.
I would grudgingly lean toward McCarthy. I would steer away from picking off any more fruit from the Belichick tree. That winds up like hiring Bill Wyman and wondering why your band isn't as good as the Rolling Stones.
WSS
I'm sure there are a thousand of these speculation pieces from clickbait.com.
I would grudgingly lean toward McCarthy. I would steer away from picking off any more fruit from the Belichick tree. That winds up like hiring Bill Wyman and wondering why your band isn't as good as the Rolling Stones.
WSS
would love it...but he is too smart....he sees our shitty owner and gm.....he''s tooooo old for that shit.....but man he would be my hire too if things were aligned properly....
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I already listed all those names and more.
The problem with your analogy is that when we hired BB, he ended up like he was Craig Ryan playing bass, but after he left he ended up performing like Paul McCarthy (oop, Freudian slip....McCartney)
I already listed all those names and more.
The problem with your analogy is that when we hired BB, he ended up like he was Craig Ryan playing bass, but after he left he ended up performing like Paul McCartney.
Nice job missing the point as usual. Fruit from the Belichick tree means guys like Romeo Crennel not Belichick himself. That might also include Josh McDaniel who who I don't trust in the first place and don't care if he's from next door or not.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
I'm sure there are a thousand of these speculation pieces from clickbait.com.
I would grudgingly lean toward McCarthy. I would steer away from picking off any more fruit from the Belichick tree. That winds up like hiring Bill Wyman and wondering why your band isn't as good as the Rolling Stones.
WSS
would love it...but he is too smart....he sees our shitty owner and gm.....he''s tooooo old for that shit.....but man he would be my hire too if things were aligned properly....
would love it...but he is too smart....he sees our shitty owner and gm.....he''s tooooo old for that shit.....but man he would be my hire too if things were aligned properly....
Well if you were being serious about his age he's only in his fifties... But I can't imagine he would have any hard feelings with Dorsey? And I to fear that Haslam and his dumbass wife will fuck up this opportunity.
WSS
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I already listed all those names and more.
The problem with your analogy is that when we hired BB, he ended up like he was Craig Ryan playing bass, but after he left he ended up performing like Paul McCartney.
Nice job missing the point as usual. Fruit from the Belichick tree means guys like Romeo Crennel not Belichick himself. That might also include Josh McDaniel who who I don't trust in the first place and don't care if he's from next door or not.
WSS
Nice job missing the point as usual. Fruit from the Belichick tree means guys like Romeo Crennel not Belichick himself. That might also include Josh McDaniel who who I don't trust in the first place and don't care if he's from next door or not.
WSS
I didn't miss the point that was all too obvious. (don't trust BB assts.)..... why would I need to repeat the obvious? (but note....two of BBs asst's have their teams in the playoffs.....including Bill O'Brien and Vrabel....so how do they fit into your point? )
So, I just decided to make my own point.
That point being that a number of coaches have gone from failure at one job.....to success at another job....including BB himself clearly.
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Nice job missing the point as usual. Fruit from the Belichick tree means guys like Romeo Crennel not Belichick himself. That might also include Josh McDaniel who who I don't trust in the first place and don't care if he's from next door or not.
WSS
I didn't miss the point that was all too obvious. (don't trust BB assts.)..... why would I need to repeat the obvious? (but note....two of BBs asst's have their teams in the playoffs.....including Bill O'Brien and Vrabel....so how do they fit into your point? )
So, I just decided to make my own point.
That point being that a number of coaches have gone from failure at one job.....to success at another job....including BB himself clearly.
I didn't miss the point that was all too obvious. (don't trust BB assts.)..... why would I need to repeat the obvious? (but note....two of BBs asst's have their teams in the playoffs.....including Bill O'Brien and Vrabel....so how do they fit into your point? )
So, I just decided to make my own point.
That point being that a number of coaches have gone from failure at one job.....to success at another job....including BB himself clearly.
Urf urf urf urf urf urf urf.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Freddie's gone...Next man up?...We'll see.
I would like to see the Browns retain ST Coordinator Mike Priefer, but they will most likely make a clean sweep.
Mike
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
... I really dislike retread shopping.
Also not into hiring college HCs.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
... I really dislike retread shopping.
Also not into hiring college HCs.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Also not into hiring college HCs.
still have the teeth marks on my ass from the Butch Davis deal.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
I probably give the Baltimore front office a lot more credit just because that team is loaded and have almost 0 injuries which make Jackson seemed a lot better than he probably is.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
I didn't miss the point that was all too obvious. (don't trust BB assts.)..... why would I need to repeat the obvious? (but note....two of BBs asst's have their teams in the playoffs.....including Bill O'Brien and Vrabel....so how do they fit into your point? )
So, I just decided to make my own point.
That point being that a number of coaches have gone from failure at one job.....to success at another job....including BB himself clearly.
Urf urf urf urf urf urf urf.
WSS
Urf urf urf urf urf urf urf.
WSS
I don't speak Troglodyte....find someone to interpret.
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Also not into hiring college HCs.
still have the teeth marks on my ass from the Butch Davis deal.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
I probably give the Baltimore front office a lot more credit just because that team is loaded and have almost 0 injuries which make Jackson seemed a lot better than he probably is.
WSS
I probably give the Baltimore Print office a lot more credit just because that team is loaded and have almost 0 injuries which make Jackson seemed a lot better than he probably is.
Not to mention that we don't have a Jackson on our roster... of course that's fixable if we draft Hurts... and/or sign Kaep ?
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
... I really dislike retread shopping.
Also not into hiring college HCs.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
In terms of W-L...yes. He was here 5 years, had a losing record in 4 of them. What would you call that? Were there extenuating circumstances? Sure.. Was he doing better until sabotaged by Modell? Sure. But these are just the facts, ma'am:
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
... I really dislike retread shopping.
Also not into hiring college HCs.
The SF DC, Saleh, interests me. https://www.49ers.com/video/robert-saleh-defensive-coordinator-49ers-seahawks-russell-wilson-marshawn-lynch
Definitely someone to look at...as I said.
For you Roman fans... here's his preseason presser. I've heard worse... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/greg-roman-is-excited-about-ravens-offensive-potential
Well, you have to be a fan of what he has done as OC in Baltimore this year....fair to say?
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
Here are the facts that I found in my ass:
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Why do you ask...since...per your comments on the BB situation here....stats you are shown don't matter to you?
BB was a retread....his stats as a retread are obviously outstanding.
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
Here are the facts that I found in my ass:
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Why do you ask...since...per your comments on the BB situation here....stats you are shown don't matter to you?
BB was a retread....his stats as a retread are obviously outstanding.
Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
Here are the facts that I found in my ass:
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Why do you ask...since...per your comments on the BB situation here....stats you are shown don't matter to you?
BB was a retread....his stats as a retread are obviously outstanding.
Stfu,the grown-ups are talking. You were just spewing shit out of your blowhole because you didn't understand the original post.
And you don't even know who you're talking to here either.
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WSS
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Wait.... Belichick was a failure in Cleveland?
don't waste your time with the Gipper he's talking out his ass.
Here are the facts that I found in my ass:
I'd prefer a D-minded HCs so put me down for Rivera over McCarthy if we are shopping for retreads this time around, but...
either way I'd hope they have an autonomous D or O coordinator but I'd still rather have McCarthy.
... I really dislike retread shopping.
I wonder if there are any actual stats hun whether there has been more success which retreads college coaches or coordinators?
Why do you ask...since...per your comments on the BB situation here....stats you are shown don't matter to you?
BB was a retread....his stats as a retread are obviously outstanding.
Stfu,the grown-ups are talking. You were just spewing shit out of your blowhole because you didn't understand the original post.
And you don't even know who you're talking to here either.
?
WSS
Stfu,the grown-ups are talking. You were just spewing shit out of your blowhole because you didn't understand the original post.
?
WSS
Sorry you can't keep up with an argument/ line of reasoning. I understood the original point perfectly: better than you understood your own point.
You said you would be weary of hiring Josh McDaniels because he is "fruit of the Belichick" tree. I said I understood your reservation... you cited Romeo, .but, I pointed out that both Bill O'Brien and Mike Vrabel....both of whom have their teams in the playoffs, are fruit of the BB tree.
Then the question with Tour turned to whether or not he, or you or we should have confidence in a retread coach. He seems to have reservations.....you seemed not to because you indicated that you would be willing to flow with McCarthy.
You, then, have your teeth into BBs dick so tight that you cannot stomach any criticism of him....ergo, you ignore his 4 out of 5 losing seasons here...and his 36-44 record here in Cleveland......but I did point out that BB, being a "retread"....is the prime example of perhaps hiring a retread may not be a bad idea. You used the BB coaching tree failures as a reason to not hire Josh McDaniels.
What went unsaid in that....by me, or others, is that both of your objection to McDaniels can be countered by the above facts: A. O'Brien and Vrabel....both BB trainees are having current success; and B. BB himself was a retread, just like McDaniels would be after his failure in Denver.
Ergo, I would not, personally, reject McDaniels for the reasons you espouse.
While past history has not been kind to BB disciples: Romeo/ Charlie Weis/McDaniels in his first go around. And Al Groh, Mangini, Jim Schwartz and a couple of others (Saban as an NFL coach, Patricia).....have not done so well..... a couple have done well.
So, in principle, I am open to McDaniels. The things that bother me more is the Indianapolis situation...and the fact that he may in fact be the heir apparent to BB in New England. And, if that is the case, he needs to take himself out of the running up front, and not even accept interviews from other teams.
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First I think we can all rest easy because I don't think that Billy B. won't be coming back to Cleveland any time soon -but- that doesn't mean that I wouldn't consider one of his staff if I thought they could be what the BROWNS needed in a new HC.
AND as far as Billy B's record in Cleveland as HC it was far better than before and after he had the job and if you think our Brownies are bad now they were bad back then too.
And remember most things in life are relative.
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Anyway....here is that fairly comprehensive list of possible candidates, reprinted here from another thread:
Names, per Sports Ilustrated
Robert Saleh,
Eric Bieniemy,
Briann Daboll
Greg Roman
Kevin Stefanski
Josh McDaniel
Kellen Moore
Kris Richard
Bret Bielema
Shane Waldron
Nick Sirianni
Dave Toub
Mike Groh
Press Taylor
Mike McCarthy
Ron Rivera
Mike McDaniel
Byron Leftwich
Mike Kafka
Leslie Frazier
Lincoln Riley
Matt Rhule
Urban Meyer
Dan Mullen
Dan Martindale
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Anyway....here is that fairly comprehensive list of possible candidates, reprinted here from another thread:
Names, per Sports Ilustrated
Robert Saleh,
Eric Bieniemy,
Briann Daboll
Greg Roman
Kevin Stefanski
Josh McDaniel
Kellen Moore
Kris Richard
Bret Bielema
Shane Waldron
Nick Sirianni
Dave Toub
Mike Groh
Press Taylor
Mike McCarthy
Ron Rivera
Mike McDaniel
Byron Leftwich
Mike Kafka
Leslie Frazier
Lincoln Riley
Matt Rhule
Urban Meyer
Dan Mullen
Dan Martindale
Anyway....here is that fairly comprehensive list of possible candidates, reprinted here from another thread:
Names, per Sports Ilustrated
Line through guys I would not really care to see: Others are ones that I would consider....or, more likely, ones I really know nothing much about.
Robert Saleh,
Eric Bieniemy,
Briann DabollGreg Roman
Kevin Stefanski
Josh McDaniel
Kellen MooreKris Richard
Bret BielemaShane Waldron
Nick Sirianni
Dave Toub
Mike Groh
Press Taylor
Mike McCarthy
Ron Rivera
Mike McDaniel
Byron Leftwich
Mike Kafka
Leslie Frazier
Lincoln RileyMatt RhuleUrban MeyerDan Mullen
Dan Martindale
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Stfu,the grown-ups are talking. You were just spewing shit out of your blowhole because you didn't understand the original post.
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WSS
Sorry you can't keep up with an argument/ line of reasoning. I understood the original point perfectly: better than you understood your own point.
You said you would be weary of hiring Josh McDaniels because he is "fruit of the Belichick" tree. I said I understood your reservation... you cited Romeo, .but, I pointed out that both Bill O'Brien and Mike Vrabel....both of whom have their teams in the playoffs, are fruit of the BB tree.
Then the question with Tour turned to whether or not he, or you or we should have confidence in a retread coach. He seems to have reservations.....you seemed not to because you indicated that you would be willing to flow with McCarthy.
You, then, have your teeth into BBs dick so tight that you cannot stomach any criticism of him....ergo, you ignore his 4 out of 5 losing seasons here...and his 36-44 record here in Cleveland......but I did point out that BB, being a "retread"....is the prime example of perhaps hiring a retread may not be a bad idea. You used the BB coaching tree failures as a reason to not hire Josh McDaniels.
What went unsaid in that....by me, or others, is that both of your objection to McDaniels can be countered by the above facts: A. O'Brien and Vrabel....both BB trainees are having current success; and B. BB himself was a retread, just like McDaniels would be after his failure in Denver.
Ergo, I would not, personally, reject McDaniels for the reasons you espouse.
While past history has not been kind to BB disciples: Romeo/ Charlie Weis/McDaniels in his first go around. And Al Groh, Mangini, Jim Schwartz and a couple of others (Saban as an NFL coach, Patricia).....have not done so well..... a couple have done well.
So, in principle, I am open to McDaniels. The things that bother me more is the Indianapolis situation...and the fact that he may in fact be the heir apparent to BB in New England. And, if that is the case, he needs to take himself out of the running up front, and not even accept interviews from other teams.
Sorry you can't keep up with an argument/ line of reasoning. I understood the original point perfectly: better than you understood your own point.
You said you would be weary of hiring Josh McDaniels because he is "fruit of the Belichick" tree. I said I understood your reservation... you cited Romeo, .but, I pointed out that both Bill O'Brien and Mike Vrabel....both of whom have their teams in the playoffs, are fruit of the BB tree.
Then the question with Tour turned to whether or not he, or you or we should have confidence in a retread coach. He seems to have reservations.....you seemed not to because you indicated that you would be willing to flow with McCarthy.
You, then, have your teeth into BBs dick so tight that you cannot stomach any criticism of him....ergo, you ignore his 4 out of 5 losing seasons here...and his 36-44 record here in Cleveland......but I did point out that BB, being a "retread"....is the prime example of perhaps hiring a retread may not be a bad idea. You used the BB coaching tree failures as a reason to not hire Josh McDaniels.
What went unsaid in that....by me, or others, is that both of your objection to McDaniels can be countered by the above facts: A. O'Brien and Vrabel....both BB trainees are having current success; and B. BB himself was a retread, just like McDaniels would be after his failure in Denver.
Ergo, I would not, personally, reject McDaniels for the reasons you espouse.
While past history has not been kind to BB disciples: Romeo/ Charlie Weis/McDaniels in his first go around. And Al Groh, Mangini, Jim Schwartz and a couple of others (Saban as an NFL coach, Patricia).....have not done so well..... a couple have done well.
So, in principle, I am open to McDaniels. The things that bother me more is the Indianapolis situation...and the fact that he may in fact be the heir apparent to BB in New England. And, if that is the case, he needs to take himself out of the running up front, and not even accept interviews from other teams.
hahahhahaha you said ergo
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Freddie's gone...Next man up?...We'll see.
I would like to see the Browns retain ST Coordinator Mike Priefer, but they will most likely make a clean sweep.
Mike
Freddie's gone...Next man up?...We'll see.
I would like to see the Browns retain ST Coordinator Mike Priefer, but they will most likely make a clean sweep.
Mike
Agreed. Mike Priefer coached the standout unit on the Browns.
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