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The thing my mind keeps going back to is the footage of Bill and Tom sitting in Bill's office going over game film of their upcoming opponents Defense. I must have seen it at least three times last week.
In it Tom was pointing out... "if that CB does that, then we can..." Bill asking, "Do you mean...?" Tom: "Yes." Bill: "Oh... I see... that's good."
Apparently this was a weekly ritual lasting an hour or so... and McDaniels was nowhere in the room.
The thing my mind keeps going back to is the footage of Bill and Tom sitting in Bill's office going over game film of their upcoming opponents Defense. I must have seen it at least three times last week.
In it Tom was pointing out... "if that CB does that, then we can..." Bill asking, "Do you mean...?" Tom: "Yes." Bill: "Oh... I see... that's good."
Apparently this was a weekly ritual lasting an hour or so... and McDaniels was nowhere in the room.
There was also a clip in 'Tom vs Time' where Tom was watching film at home and he would call McDaniels, watch a certain play together, comment on it and adapt it for their offense if they didn't have it or check some possible imorovements...
I wouldn’t say McDaniels was left behind on film analysis, offense playbook and gameplan.
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The thing my mind keeps going back to is the footage of Bill and Tom sitting in Bill's office going over game film of their upcoming opponents Defense. I must have seen it at least three times last week.
In it Tom was pointing out... "if that CB does that, then we can..." Bill asking, "Do you mean...?" Tom: "Yes." Bill: "Oh... I see... that's good."
Apparently this was a weekly ritual lasting an hour or so... and McDaniels was nowhere in the room.
I'm not on board with a McDaniels hire, he just ain't our guy.
I'm not on board with a McDaniels hire, he just ain't our guy.
Or....he may just be our guy. All speculation has him as the frontrunner, no?
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The thing my mind keeps going back to is the footage of Bill and Tom sitting in Bill's office going over game film of their upcoming opponents Defense. I must have seen it at least three times last week.
In it Tom was pointing out... "if that CB does that, then we can..." Bill asking, "Do you mean...?" Tom: "Yes." Bill: "Oh... I see... that's good."
Apparently this was a weekly ritual lasting an hour or so... and McDaniels was nowhere in the room.
There was also a clip in 'Tom vs Time' where Tom was watching film at home and he would call McDaniels, watch a certain play together, comment on it and adapt it for their offense if they didn't have it or check some possible imorovements...
I wouldn’t say McDaniels was left behind on film analysis, offense playbook and gameplan.
I wouldn’t say McDaniels was left behind on film analysis, offense playbook and gameplan.
Not what I was intending to intimate.
Just saying that there was a Belichick-Brady bond/rapport that cut across reporting relationships. In a way I can even admire McD's acceptance of such an interaction that likely preceded his OC days with the Pats. It'd take a self-secure individual to do that.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Kind of an odd day today. All of a sudden all of the coaching vacancies are full and the path is cleared for the Browns two top choices.
The Panthers & Giants BOTH left McDaniels standing at the altar. (thinking he would be interviewing with them). Only fitting I suppose.
So, who's gonna get their guy? DePodesta or Jimmuh?
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Why hurry now?
I don't think we lost "our guy" to anybody else and we are the last job out there. Seems like taking our time would be prudent.
Finish the opening round... hold a couple callback interviews... deliberate... hire... move on to the GM role.
Agree....in fact, I don't think we lost any of several people who could be "our guy": Not McD, Stefanski, Bienemy, Saleh. Rhule nor the Judge were even on the Browns radar, I do not believe.
Agree....in fact, I don't think we lost any of several people who could be "our guy": Not McD, Stefanski, Bienemy, Saleh. Rhule nor the Judge were even on the Browns radar, I do not believe.
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
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If he's smart...he'll send them packing.
Just don't bring back Ray Horton.
Third times a charm?
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If he's smart...he'll send them packing.
Just don't bring back Ray Horton.
Third times a charm?
Third times a charm?
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Agree....in fact, I don't think we lost any of several people who could be "our guy": Not McD, Stefanski, Bienemy, Saleh. Rhule nor the Judge were even on the Browns radar, I do not believe.
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Didn’t hear that he denied the interview
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I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Didn’t hear that he denied the interview
Didn’t hear that he denied the interview
Just what I read sometime around their Bowl game. Pretty sure it was before.
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I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Didn’t hear that he denied the interview
Didn’t hear that he denied the interview
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Kind of an odd day today. All of a sudden all of the coaching vacancies are full and the path is cleared for the Browns two top choices.
The Panthers & Giants BOTH left McDaniels standing at the altar. (thinking he would be interviewing with them). Only fitting I suppose.
So, who's gonna get their guy? DePodesta or Jimmuh?
Kind of an odd day today. All of a sudden all of the coaching vacancies are full and the path is cleared for the Browns two top choices.
The Panthers & Giants BOTH left McDaniels standing at the altar. (thinking he would be interviewing with them). Only fitting I suppose.
So, who's gonna get their guy? DePodesta or Jimmuh?
The way I understand it is DePodesta will make his recommendation- but the final call is up to Jimmuh to sign off on it. You had better be right Paul. And please don't talk to the Homeless Guy before you make the call Haslam.
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Yup, heard it on Sports Center. Carolina was slobbering all over Rhule for their new coach. New owner was willing to back up the Brinks truck to land him. Not letting him leave until he said OK. Hope their owner (Tepper) has the same slow learning curve as Haslam. BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion. Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
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Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed
#1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy *HIRED- Dallas*
#2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20
#3.Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy
#4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20
#5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)
#6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz 1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge
#7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20 *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20
#8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20
Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..
Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20
GM interviews start on 1-17-20..
#1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)
#3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday
1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..
Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.
**#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM** Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list.
Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP & head of College Scouting to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..
COACHING STAFF HIRES
#1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20
1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff
#2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman
#4) RB's- Stump Mitchell
#5. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)
Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed
#1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy *DALLAS
#2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman
#3.Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy
#4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh
#5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)
Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending ..Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)
Not much to add here fellows... Seems more like weeks since the walls fell in around John Dorsey, but it's only been 8 days... So this maybe the Final HC'ing interview Candidate list..
Jim Schwartz (DC Philly)- Wednesday Kevin Stefanski (Vikings OC)- Thursday (cannot be hired till Vikes Out) Josh McDaniels (Patriots OC)- Friday
Jimmy's 5th coaching change ?
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Kind of an odd day today. All of a sudden all of the coaching vacancies are full and the path is cleared for the Browns two top choices.
The Panthers & Giants BOTH left McDaniels standing at the altar. (thinking he would be interviewing with them). Only fitting I suppose.
So, who's gonna get their guy? DePodesta or Jimmuh?
The way I understand it is DePodesta will make his recommendation- but the final call is up to Jimmuh to sign off on it. You had better be right Paul. And please don't talk to the Homeless Guy before you make the call Haslam.
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Yup, heard it on Sports Center. Carolina was slobbering all over Rhule for their new coach. New owner was willing to back up the Brinks truck to land him. Not letting him leave until he said OK. Hope their owner (Tepper) has the same slow learning curve as Haslam. BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion. Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
The way I understand it is DePodesta will make his recommendation- but the final call is up to Jimmuh to sign off on it. You had better be right Paul. And please don't talk to the Homeless Guy before you make the call Haslam.
Yup, heard it on Sports Center. Carolina was slobbering all over Rhule for their new coach. New owner was willing to back up the Brinks truck to land him. Not letting him leave until he said OK. Hope their owner (Tepper) has the same slow learning curve as Haslam. BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion. Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
Sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus... if Rhule got 7yrs/$60mill what would Urban Meyer get? Lincoln Riley?
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The way I understand it is DePodesta will make his recommendation- but the final call is up to Jimmuh to sign off on it. You had better be right Paul. And please don't talk to the Homeless Guy before you make the call Haslam.
Yup, heard it on Sports Center. Carolina was slobbering all over Rhule for their new coach. New owner was willing to back up the Brinks truck to land him. Not letting him leave until he said OK. Hope their owner (Tepper) has the same slow learning curve as Haslam. BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion. Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
Sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus... if Rhule got 7yrs/$60mill what would Urban Meyer get? Lincoln Riley?
Sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus... if Rhule got 7yrs/$60mill what would Urban Meyer get? Lincoln Riley?
LOL, a Jon Gruden 10 years $100 million? Silly for unproven talent, for sure.....
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Schwartz ftw!!
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Another Saleh article... this one highlights a connection with Gary Kubiak. So those thinking of Kubiak for OC might have hope in this quarter as well...
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/01/07/cleveland-browns-robert-saleh-head-coach/
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Kind of an odd day today. All of a sudden all of the coaching vacancies are full and the path is cleared for the Browns two top choices.
The Panthers & Giants BOTH left McDaniels standing at the altar. (thinking he would be interviewing with them). Only fitting I suppose.
So, who's gonna get their guy? DePodesta or Jimmuh?
The way I understand it is DePodesta will make his recommendation- but the final call is up to Jimmuh to sign off on it. You had better be right Paul. And please don't talk to the Homeless Guy before you make the call Haslam.
I would not have liked Rhule, not really that impressed honestly. But he WAS on the radar of Cleveland until he turned them down to interview.
I give him a few years and he is gone in Carolina. And they really shelled out for him as well. Reported 7/60
Yup, heard it on Sports Center. Carolina was slobbering all over Rhule for their new coach. New owner was willing to back up the Brinks truck to land him. Not letting him leave until he said OK. Hope their owner (Tepper) has the same slow learning curve as Haslam. BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion. Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
BTW, the purchase price of an NFL franchise has now escalated to $2.3 billion.
Other owners may be POed he blew up the salary scale for new head coaches. Rhule is #6 on the list before he ever coaches a regular season game. If your curious- and to no one's surprise- Bill B. tops the list at $12 million a year.
Damn... and just as I was getting close to affording a team...
And if Ruhle is #6, then nothing as blown up. First time means nothing... the guy was in demand.
What did Gruden get? 10 years at $10mm per year? Now that's blowing up the HC salary structure. It makes Bill look cheap by comparison since he wears the GM hat as well.
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Here's the list of Coaches hired in Order
1) Ron Rivera- Redskins.. Browns never interviewed. And was hired in DC the Day after John Dorsey was released of his duties..
2) Mike McCarthy- Dallas..Browns did interview 1st on List.. Browns were in process of Daboll interview,when McCarty hired in Dallas..Dallas 1st interview, Marvin Lewis..Next day, McCarthy wakes up at Jerry's house coaching the Dallas Cowboys..
3) Matt Rhule- Panthers.. Took all of 2 days, since Haslam's hiring staff was put in place.. Called to Interview M.Rhule..Matt Rhule, DeClined to interview with Browns..
3) Joe Judge- Giants.. ST coach at Patriots..Shocked to everyone known to football..Baylor/Temple coach Matt Rhule was the suppose'it Giant's target. Rhule called Giants to match Panthers deal, Giants refused to match (click)
Here's a List of Coaches *That still could be Hired*
Jason Garrett
Marvin Lewis
Kris Richard
Don Martindale
Wade Phillips
Lincoln Riley (maybe)
Urban Meyer (maybe)
Do they fit? ////Who did i forget?////// Anybody else in the whole wide World ? including College football you'd like to included to the Interview list? Speak _UP in the next 48 hours, and not* when were 0-3.... 8 remaining Playoff teams coaches could be added as well (example--Titans-Deen Pees?).. LSU or Clemson? Look under your Rocks & Who else Ya Got!!
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Another Saleh article... this one highlights a connection with Gary Kubiak. So those thinking of Kubiak for OC might have hope in this quarter as well...
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/01/07/cleveland-browns-robert-saleh-head-coach/
Another Saleh article... this one highlights a connection with Gary Kubiak. So those thinking of Kubiak for OC might have hope in this quarter as well...
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/01/07/cleveland-browns-robert-saleh-head-coach/
How is his health? That is why he retired as Broncos HC.
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Here's the list of Coaches hired in Order
1) Ron Rivera- Redskins.. Browns never interviewed. And was hired in DC the Day after John Dorsey was released of his duties..
2) Mike McCarthy- Dallas..Browns did interview 1st on List.. Browns were in process of Daboll interview,when McCarty hired in Dallas..Dallas 1st interview, Marvin Lewis..Next day, McCarthy wakes up at Jerry's house coaching the Dallas Cowboys..
3) Matt Rhule- Panthers.. Took all of 2 days, since Haslam's hiring staff was put in place.. Called to Interview M.Rhule..Matt Rhule, DeClined to interview with Browns..
3) Joe Judge- Giants.. ST coach at Patriots..Shocked to everyone known to football..Baylor/Temple coach Matt Rhule was the suppose'it Giant's target. Rhule called Giants to match Panthers deal, Giants refused to match (click)
Here's a List of Coaches *That still could be Hired*
Jason Garrett
Marvin Lewis
Kris Richard
Don Martindale
Wade Phillips
Lincoln Riley (maybe)
Urban Meyer (maybe)
Do they fit? ////Who did i forget?////// Anybody else in the whole wide World ? including College football you'd like to included to the Interview list? Speak _UP in the next 48 hours, and not* when were 0-3.... 8 remaining Playoff teams coaches could be added as well (example--Titans-Deen Pees?).. LSU or Clemson? Look under your Rocks & Who else Ya Got!!
Here's the list of Coaches hired in Order
1) Ron Rivera- Redskins.. Browns never interviewed. And was hired in DC the Day after John Dorsey was released of his duties..
2) Mike McCarthy- Dallas..Browns did interview 1st on List.. Browns were in process of Daboll interview,when McCarty hired in Dallas..Dallas 1st interview, Marvin Lewis..Next day, McCarthy wakes up at Jerry's house coaching the Dallas Cowboys..
3) Matt Rhule- Panthers.. Took all of 2 days, since Haslam's hiring staff was put in place.. Called to Interview M.Rhule..Matt Rhule, DeClined to interview with Browns..
3) Joe Judge- Giants.. ST coach at Patriots..Shocked to everyone known to football..Baylor/Temple coach Matt Rhule was the suppose'it Giant's target. Rhule called Giants to match Panthers deal, Giants refused to match (click)
Here's a List of Coaches *That still could be Hired*
Jason Garrett
Marvin Lewis
Kris Richard
Don Martindale
Wade Phillips
Lincoln Riley (maybe)
Urban Meyer (maybe)
Do they fit? ////Who did i forget?////// Anybody else in the whole wide World ? including College football you'd like to included to the Interview list? Speak _UP in the next 48 hours, and not* when were 0-3.... 8 remaining Playoff teams coaches could be added as well (example--Titans-Deen Pees?).. LSU or Clemson? Look under your Rocks & Who else Ya Got!!
Who did you miss? Everyone that has been under consideration: McDaniels, Saleh, Stefanski, Daboll, Bienemy, Schwartz, Roman....and maybe more.
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