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  • thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?

    Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info? 

    A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room? 

    --OR---

    B.)  Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?

    Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?

    @gumby73 said:

    thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?

    Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info? 

    A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room? 

    --OR---

    B.)  Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?

    Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?

    No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience. 

    WSS

  • @gumby73 said:

    thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?

    Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info? 

    A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room? 

    --OR---

    B.)  Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?

    Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?

    No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience. 

    WSS

    The problem comes down to this with the Haslams in charge.

    Last man standing takes the cash.  ?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well shit.

    https://www.beaconjournal.com/sports/20200127/browns-bring-andrew-berry-back-by-hiring-him-as-their-new-gm

    WSS

    Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well shit.

    https://www.beaconjournal.com/sports/20200127/browns-bring-andrew-berry-back-by-hiring-him-as-their-new-gm

    WSS

    Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??

    ...can't possibly be the plan THIS time.  We have too many good players that would need to be axed.  Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??

    ...can't possibly be the plan THIS time.  We have too many good players that would need to be axed.  Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.

    @orion said:

      Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.

    I guess ignorance is bliss...

  • @orion said:

      Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.

    I guess ignorance is bliss...

    @tour2ma said:

    I guess ignorance is bliss...

    Well it was either a decision by committee or one guy takes the blame. 

    As long as we're stuck with Berry I hope somebody else took the blame.

    WSS

  • https://www.bing.com/search?q=browns+news&pc=MOZI&form=MOZTSB

    49ers’ Joe Woods expects ‘seamless transition’ to Browns DC; Excited to join Kevin Stefanski if it works out

  • So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

  • So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    What does "in any capacity" mean? "At any level"?

    @dutch-oven said:

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    Actually he was OC in BUF under Jauron during his last season asHC... so I guess that makes him "the experienced one." 🙂

    Decent rush attack, but nada for a pass game under Trent Edwards.

    T.O. was on the team tho, so he's had practice handling "personalities".

  • So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    With one of the youngest rosters in the league. 

  • So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    To add to others, Joe Woods WAS a DC in Denver.

    Dutch, obviously your research prior to the post could have used analytics to assure your information was correct.

    Mike

  • Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   *HIRED- Dallas*

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20  

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20  *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    GM interviews start on 1-17-20..   

    #1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)

    #3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday

    1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..

    Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.

    **#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM** Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list.

    Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP & head of College Scouting to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..   

    COACHING STAFF HIRES

    #1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20

    1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff

    #2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman

    #4) RB's- Stump Mitchell

    #5. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)

    @gumby73 said:

    Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   *HIRED- Dallas*

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20  

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20  *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    GM interviews start on 1-17-20..   

    #1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)

    #3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday

    1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..

    Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.

    **#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM**

    Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list. Johnny Stanton

    Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP.. And head of College Scouting, Scott Malin to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..   

    COACHING STAFF HIRES

    #1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20

    1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff

    #2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman

    #4) RB's- Stump Mitchell

    #5) OL/Off.Asst- Bill Callahan (rumored, see nothing confirmed..EdIT--1-31-20- Callahan officially signs on as Browns OL coach)

    #6. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)

    #7) OC-Alex Van Pelt-- last seasons Bengals QB Coach

    #8) DB Coach-Jeff Howard (just added overnight)

    OTHER--1-31-20-K. Stefanski adds a female, to a Chief of Staff position..former Bills intern Callie Brownson 

    Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..

    and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html  seems to update well also   

  • So no defense hires yet........

  • @gumby73 said:

    Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   *HIRED- Dallas*

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20  

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20  *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    GM interviews start on 1-17-20..   

    #1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)

    #3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday

    1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..

    Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.

    **#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM**

    Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list. Johnny Stanton

    Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP.. And head of College Scouting, Scott Malin to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..   

    COACHING STAFF HIRES

    #1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20

    1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff

    #2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman

    #4) RB's- Stump Mitchell

    #5) OL/Off.Asst- Bill Callahan (rumored, see nothing confirmed..EdIT--1-31-20- Callahan officially signs on as Browns OL coach)

    #6. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)

    #7) OC-Alex Van Pelt-- last seasons Bengals QB Coach

    #8) DB Coach-Jeff Howard (just added overnight)

    OTHER--1-31-20-K. Stefanski adds a female, to a Chief of Staff position..former Bills intern Callie Brownson 

    Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..

    and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html  seems to update well also   

    @gumby73 said:

    Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..

    and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html  seems to update well also   

    And here's what other teams are trying- and a pretty objective view of Stefansky...  

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096641/article/nfl-coaching-hires-proscons-for-each-of-the-five-new-head-men

  • So no defense hires yet........

    @lbc-mike said:

    So no defense hires yet........

    Seems probable we'll have our DC come Monday...

    49ers’ Joe Woods expects ‘seamless transition’ to Browns DC; excited to join Kevin Stefanski after Super Bowl as expected

    Updated Jan 30, 9:15 AM; Posted Jan 29, 8:40 PM

    MIAMI — San Francisco 49ers defensive backs coach and passing game coordinator Joe Woods acknowledged he’s hoping to join Kevin Stefanski as the Browns defensive coordinator after the Super Bowl and is excited about the opportunity.

    “We talked,’’ Woods, 49, told cleveland.com and one other Browns reporter Wednesday at the Super Bowl of a conversation with Stefanski. “Obviously I have a relationship with Kevin. I worked with him in Minnesota for eight years. But nothing’s going to be decided until after the Super Bowl. Obviously I feel like I have a good opportunity there but we’ll see what happens.’’

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/49ers-joe-woods-expects-seamless-transition-to-browns-dc-excited-to-join-kevin-stefanski-if-it-works-out.html

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So, for those keeping score at home...

    The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.

    They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry. 

    They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.

    They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.

    They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods. 

    All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam. 

    To add to others, Joe Woods WAS a DC in Denver.

    Dutch, obviously your research prior to the post could have used analytics to assure your information was correct.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    To add to others, Joe Woods WAS a DC in Denver.

    Dutch, obviously your research prior to the post could have used analytics to assure your information was correct.

    Mike

    I did miss that, but let's be honest, who really gives two shits? They'll all be shit-canned in 2 years, maybe 3 if DePodesta really keeps blowing Jimmy real nice-like. 

    But I'm sure those two years as DC will make all the difference in The Process Part Deux becoming a rousing success. 

    I know I'm on pins and needles with anticipation at the bang up job the Ivy League boys with their cute sweaters tied around their waists will do on the upcoming draft! 

  • @canton-mike said:

    To add to others, Joe Woods WAS a DC in Denver.

    Dutch, obviously your research prior to the post could have used analytics to assure your information was correct.

    Mike

    I did miss that, but let's be honest, who really gives two shits? They'll all be shit-canned in 2 years, maybe 3 if DePodesta really keeps blowing Jimmy real nice-like. 

    But I'm sure those two years as DC will make all the difference in The Process Part Deux becoming a rousing success. 

    I know I'm on pins and needles with anticipation at the bang up job the Ivy League boys with their cute sweaters tied around their waists will do on the upcoming draft! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know I'm on pins and needles with anticipation at the bang up job the Ivy League boys with their cute sweaters tied around their waists will do on the upcoming draft! 

    Looking forward to your Mock Draft(s)...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I know I'm on pins and needles with anticipation at the bang up job the Ivy League boys with their cute sweaters tied around their waists will do on the upcoming draft! 

    Looking forward to your Mock Draft(s)...

    @tour2ma said:

    Looking forward to your Mock Draft(s)...

    Not even bothering. 

    The Consensus doing their best impression of a monkey fucking a football with this upcoming Browns draft has surprisingly killed any of my interest in it.