Browns hire Kevin Stefanski as HC
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Before the wild card games, people were talking about how the Vikings might release Zimmer and promote stefanski if they got blown out because they love stefanski and didn't wanna see him go.
Now people hate the hire and Vikings fans couldn't care less to see him go.
Interesting how the rumors and perception changed.
Before the wild card games, people were talking about how the Vikings might release Zimmer and promote stefanski if they got blown out because they love stefanski and didn't wanna see him go.
Now people hate the hire and Vikings fans couldn't care less to see him go.
Interesting how the rumors and perception changed.
I never heard those rumors.
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Well, at least we didn't hire a fat ass.?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
One of two things I see this as. Either ownership and management want to eliminate any future communication issues and instability among the coaching staff by verifying that these gameplans are developed, set and agreed upon by the coaching staff... - OR- Tennessee Jerry Jones just kicked into overdrive.
Either great or a disaster.
Help me out with this one. In Spanish we have a saying "Piensa mal y acertarás" which literally is 'Think wrong and be right', meaning you should expect the worst from a multiple choice scenario.
I need help finding an English equivalent... Because it applies here.
Help me out with this one. In Spanish we have a saying "Piensa mal y acertarás" which literally is 'Think wrong and be right', meaning you should expect the worst from a multiple choice scenario.
I need help finding an English equivalent... Because it applies here.
Always set your expectations low, that way you will never be disappointed.
That is not exactly translate right either, but it does apply here.
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"Piensa mal y acertarás"
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at least we didn't hire a fat ass.?
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Help me out with this one. In Spanish we have a saying "Piensa mal y acertarás" which literally is 'Think wrong and be right', meaning you should expect the worst from a multiple choice scenario.
I need help finding an English equivalent... Because it applies here.
"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst".
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All the football talking heads on television I saw yesterday seemed to think Stefanski was a good hire so we'll see. I'm hopeful.
All the football talking heads on television I saw yesterday seemed to think Stefanski was a good hire so we'll see. I'm hopeful.
It was interesting. It seemed many were positive some were “well he just got rolled by the Niners”
Sean Payton’s reaction was most interesting he kind of rolled his eyes at our organization - here we go again. He didn’t really come down on the hire though
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A lot of people poo poohed the thought of urban meyer as a NFL head coach but I thought this is a guy who knows the right calls to make and when to make them and knows how to hire subordinates to run different aspects of the team and knows how to identify talent. I mean what more are we looking for?
But. We've got stefanski. And it sounds like Paul depodesta is going to be the puppet master. So...no comment. I hope it works out. At least he's not a fat disgusting hillbilly moron slob so that's one image problem fixed.
A lot of people poo poohed the thought of urban meyer as a NFL head coach but I thought this is a guy who knows the right calls to make and when to make them and knows how to hire subordinates to run different aspects of the team and knows how to identify talent. I mean what more are we looking for?
But. We've got stefanski. And it sounds like Paul depodesta is going to be the puppet master. So...no comment. I hope it works out. At least he's not a fat disgusting hillbilly moron slob so that's one image problem fixed.
He’s not “yes man” though. And truthfully he had a Freddie like team his last two/three years Uber talented by highly disorganized.
Then you have to question his offense. Is he willing to change? And then his control freak nature couple with his health
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Dustin Fox tweeted that all potential HC hires had to agree to present game plans weekly to Haslam and DePodesta.
Dustin Fox tweeted that all potential HC hires had to agree to present game plans weekly to Haslam and DePodesta.
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Oh shit you and cal too? We're fucked.?
Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
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well, I saw an interview with the Viking's center, and he said it's tough to see him go, but the Browns were getting
an outstanding teacher and coach, etc. So there's that.
Ryan: Stefanski is a fantastic hire for the Browns
Matt Hasselbeck, Rex Ryan, Tedy Bruschi and Sean Payton react to the news that the Browns are planning to hire Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski as their new head coach.
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Link??? or are you talking out of your ass, too?
Face it amigo. Every single solitary bit of news evidence conjecture speculation whatever you decide to call it is pulled out of somebody's ass.
That goes from the lowliest Newbie on a local football bulletin board to the highest-rated Sports Talk and information professional.
WSS
Face it amigo. Every single solitary bit of news evidence conjecture speculation whatever you decide to call it is pulled out of somebody's ass.
And I understand that... it's just that when speculation is presented as fact that I get a little testy.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Face it amigo. Every single solitary bit of news evidence conjecture speculation whatever you decide to call it is pulled out of somebody's ass.
And I understand that... it's just that when speculation is presented as fact that I get a little testy.
And I understand that... it's just that when speculation is presented as fact that I get a little testy.
And every single meaningless thing he did/does whatever will be dissected like a frog in biology class.
It's going to be a long Winter and Spring coming up. I choose to just chill out.
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I think in the end Jimmy felt he finally needed to heed Depos advice. Depo has made several recommendations that would have been solid choices only to have Jimmy opt for Hue and Doofus Dorsey decide on Freddie.
I do think we are going have solid alignment between Stefanski and Berry, both whom will be open to using the analytics that Depo and staff will provide on a weekly basis. Even in game basis. I hope a member of the Depo team is on the sidelines with the ability to feed the coach info in real time, point out things that could help with halftime adjustments Doofus wasn't open to that. He would rather sit there and watch Freddie fall in love with plays that didn't work. It started to look like "Tin Cup" with Costner determined to carry the water. It never hurts to get solid information that can help towards making better decisions.
We all want that, right?
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Well, at least we didn't hire a fat ass.?
Well, at least we didn't hire a fat ass.?
No but Stefanski reminds me of a Just For Men Hair Dye commercial spokesperson.
if I was his agent I’d be all over that endorsement
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I think in the end Jimmy felt he finally needed to heed Depos advice. Depo has made several recommendations that would have been solid choices only to have Jimmy opt for Hue and Doofus Dorsey decide on Freddie.
I do think we are going have solid alignment between Stefanski and Berry, both whom will be open to using the analytics that Depo and staff will provide on a weekly basis. Even in game basis. I hope a member of the Depo team is on the sidelines with the ability to feed the coach info in real time, point out things that could help with halftime adjustments Doofus wasn't open to that. He would rather sit there and watch Freddie fall in love with plays that didn't work. It started to look like "Tin Cup" with Costner determined to carry the water. It never hurts to get solid information that can help towards making better decisions.
We all want that, right?
I think in the end Jimmy felt he finally needed to heed Depos advice. Depo has made several recommendations that would have been solid choices only to have Jimmy opt t never hurts to get solid information that can help towards making better decisions.
We all want that, right?
Yes. I'd like to see some solid thinking have a chance to play out and work.
We diehard BROWNS fans have become weary of decades of mismanagement.
GO BROWNS, get it right.
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And now another account of what Jimmah requested is out... and it doesn't match up with the Fox and Friends drive-time broadcast.
Stefanski presented a detailed vision of how he will approach the head coaching job. He made it clear he was willing to yield to certain DePodesta standards, such as an analytics person with a head set and access to the coaching staff on game days, in addition to certain Haslam likes, such as hours-long, Monday-after, owner-coach meetings.
Here the Monday meeting is not an upcoming "game plan" focused, but a post-mortem of the game just played... not an outrageous thing for an owner to request.
Here the analytics involvement is more of a game-day thing with an "Analytics Assistant Coach" wired into the HC's ear. Seems to me to be a lot of advantages to this ranging from basic reminders... such as when to go for 2 and when to go on 4th down... to feedback on when the playcalling is getting a little too run/pass-happy or a left/tight tendency is developing. There's no mention of turning in a plan or a meeting on it.
More to come I'm sure...
In other news Fox updated his afternoon, drive-time broadcast in a tweet Sunday night: " “Was also told candidates also had to agree to turn in game plans to the owner and analytics department on Friday and to attend an end-of-week analytics meeting to discuss their plan.”
So the reported Monday game-plan meet moved to Friday...
I'd just like to point out that a Friday game-plan meeting makes no sense whatsoever if it's intent is anything more than simply informing Jimmah and Depo.
Game plans are substantially generated by the staff with Analytics input on Monday, the players' day off. "The Plan" is then practiced to throughout the week. And while it may be refined through the week, no major changes are possible on Friday.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Oh shit you and cal too? We're fucked.?
Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
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And now another account of what Jimmah requested is out... and it doesn't match up with the Fox and Friends drive-time broadcast.
Stefanski presented a detailed vision of how he will approach the head coaching job. He made it clear he was willing to yield to certain DePodesta standards, such as an analytics person with a head set and access to the coaching staff on game days, in addition to certain Haslam likes, such as hours-long, Monday-after, owner-coach meetings.
Here the Monday meeting is not an upcoming "game plan" focused, but a post-mortem of the game just played... not an outrageous thing for an owner to request.
Here the analytics involvement is more of a game-day thing with an "Analytics Assistant Coach" wired into the HC's ear. Seems to me to be a lot of advantages to this ranging from basic reminders... such as when to go for 2 and when to go on 4th down... to feedback on when the playcalling is getting a little too run/pass-happy or a left/tight tendency is developing. There's no mention of turning in a plan or a meeting on it.
More to come I'm sure...
In other news Fox updated his afternoon, drive-time broadcast in a tweet Sunday night: " “Was also told candidates also had to agree to turn in game plans to the owner and analytics department on Friday and to attend an end-of-week analytics meeting to discuss their plan.”
So the reported Monday game-plan meet moved to Friday...
I'd just like to point out that a Friday game-plan meeting makes no sense whatsoever if it's intent is anything more than simply informing Jimmah and Depo.
Game plans are substantially generated by the staff with Analytics input on Monday, the players' day off. "The Plan" is then practiced to throughout the week. And while it may be refined through the week, no major changes are possible on Friday.
And now another account of what Jimmah requested is out... and it doesn't match up with the Fox and Friends drive-time broadcast.
Here the Monday meeting is not an upcoming "game plan" focused, but a post-mortem of the game just played... not an outrageous thing for an owner to request.
Here the analytics involvement is more of a game-day thing with an "Analytics Assistant Coach" wired into the HC's ear. Seems to me to be a lot of advantages to this ranging from basic reminders... such as when to go for 2 and when to go on 4th down... to feedback on when the playcalling is getting a little too run/pass-happy or a left/tight tendency is developing. There's no mention of turning in a plan or a meeting on it.
More to come I'm sure...
In other news Fox updated his afternoon, drive-time broadcast in a tweet Sunday night: " “Was also told candidates also had to agree to turn in game plans to the owner and analytics department on Friday and to attend an end-of-week analytics meeting to discuss their plan.”
I'd just like to point out that a Friday game-plan meeting makes no sense whatsoever if it's intent is anything more than simply informing Jimmah and Depo.
Game plans are substantially generated by the staff with Analytics input on Monday, the players' day off. "The Plan" is then practiced to throughout the week. And while it may be refined through the week, no major changes are possible on Friday.
I heard stories on the radio this morning that Art Modell used to require his coaching staff to come to his house in Waite Hill....the NIGHT of the day they played a game, and make them go over every play and every strategy they used that day in the game, and if they won it was a bit of a celebration, and if they lost, it was a torture session. I guess he would serve up a whole mess of pasta and serve it with red wine...and make the staff go through the analysis of the game, right then.
So, I guess this shit is not at all new. It just takes a different form.
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Oh shit you and cal too? We're fucked.?
Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
Coulda fooled me. Here is a "fact" from page 3 of this very thread. If that is not an endorsement then I don't know what is. I read yours first and then PoG's and exactly what did you expect me to say other than "We're fucked"?
cal said on Sept 14 right here in this thread on page 3:
"well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.
This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game."
Next time try to remember your "facts" for at least two days after you post them. "Writing comprehension" IS a thing you know.?
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Oh, sorry then. I guess I should never have put you and Poe together as cheerleaders? Poor Poe, all alone:
You were right the first time. See my post above. Put 'em back in the same pea pod.?
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