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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    TJ Carrie signs with Colts:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-colts-sign-cb-carrie-203140492.html

    1 year Vet Mini...300k... age 30 😕 .. The Colts once carried the most cap space of all teams not long ago... they added Rivers & Buckner..and paid Castonzo & C Ryan Kelly.zip down to under 20M in cap left.. in the last week they have cut Pierre Desir, signed by Jets.. Colts also cut former browns BBC & Kai Nacua... Berry & Grigson may want to see if the Colts are willing to trade DT Denico Autry.. Autry is a run stuffer with 25 career sacks.. has a cost of 5M this season... than could go free agent from Colts in 2021..

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    Higgins is still floating around in free agency like a Cheerio in the milk.  With the draft being a good WR draft, he may remain floating about until the draft ends.  

    I'm assuming that Berry & Stefanski have no huge interest in him right about now.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    te ricky seals-jones is going to sign with the chiefs as of several hours ago.

    crap.

  • te ricky seals-jones is going to sign with the chiefs as of several hours ago.

    crap.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    te ricky seals-jones is going to sign with the chiefs as of several hours ago.

    crap.

    One more weapon for Mahomes to find. Damn I wish we had kept him.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    However will we replace his 14 catches?

    Oh wait...

    Hooper...

  • However will we replace his 14 catches?

    Oh wait...

    Hooper...

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    However will we replace his 14 catches?

    Oh wait...

    Hooper...

    Hopefully it was a non tight end centered offensive scheme at the heart of the problem. Would be nice to see that change.

    WSS

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma

    Could be Steve...

    ... but then I'm not sure what the "center" of our Offense was last season.

    Did we have one?

  • Could be Steve...

    ... but then I'm not sure what the "center" of our Offense was last season.

    Did we have one?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Could be Steve...

    ... but then I'm not sure what the "center" of our Offense was last season.

    Did we have one?

    It was centered on the same thing Hue's was centered on...................fucked up play calling inside the opponent's 10.?

  • Could be Steve...

    ... but then I'm not sure what the "center" of our Offense was last season.

    Did we have one?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Could be Steve...

    ... but then I'm not sure what the "center" of our Offense was last season.

    Did we have one?

    Tretter?

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by

    Rams Traded WR Brandin Cooks and a 4th rounder to Houston for a 2nd

  • Rams Traded WR Brandin Cooks and a 4th rounder to Houston for a 2nd

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @darren15 said:

    Rams Traded WR Brandin Cooks and a 4th rounder to Houston for a 2nd

    Just tonight, right?   Wonder why the Rams let him go?   Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods all they need?   Cap move? 

  • Rams Traded WR Brandin Cooks and a 4th rounder to Houston for a 2nd

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma

    @darren15 said:

    Rams Traded WR Brandin Cooks and a 4th rounder to Houston for a 2nd

    Bill O is going all in on a season that might not happen...

    HOU is now down to a 3rd, 2- a 4ths, a 5th and 3-7ths...

    EDIT: scratch one of the above 4ths... the one the Rams gave up is a 2022 pick.

    For a pretty good WR Cooks sure has been traded a lot... looks like a cap casualty this time.

    Brandin Cooks Traded To Houston For 2nd Round Pick

    In another move to free up much-needed cap space, the Los Angeles Rams traded Brandin Cooks to the Texans. The Rams will receive the 57th overall pick in this years draft, and the Texans will also get a 2022 fourth-round pick.

    In 2018, the Rams acquired Cooks from the New England Patriots in exchange for a first-round pick. They then signed him to a five-year, $81 million contract before the season. His impact was immediately felt and Cooks played a central role in LA’s road to the Super Bowl. In 2018, he set career bests in yards (1,204) and catches (80). Cooks saw a decline in production in 2019, he caught the fewest passes in his career (42) and fewest yards (583) since his rookie season.

    The Rams have had to make some drastic moves when it comes to creating cap space. A harsh reality that has come to a head this off season. The Rams declined to make offers to Dante Fowler and Cory Littleton. They also cut Todd Gurley and Clay Matthews. Creating the space has left the depth chart looking like swiss cheese, but it is a brutal step in the right direction as they find themselves $541,000 over the cap, according to spotrac.com 

    https://www.lafbnetwork.com/brandin-cooks-traded-to-houston-for-draft-pick/

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic

    Rams payroll in 2020 and 2021 includes the following dead money:

    Todd Gurley 20.15 M // Brandin Cooks 21.8M

    Whoever is managing their cap.... shouldn't be.

    Yes, it was a good job to dump Cooks -- but the problem was signing the deals with these players in the first place.

  • Rams payroll in 2020 and 2021 includes the following dead money:

    Todd Gurley 20.15 M // Brandin Cooks 21.8M

    Whoever is managing their cap.... shouldn't be.

    Yes, it was a good job to dump Cooks -- but the problem was signing the deals with these players in the first place.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @unsympathetic said:

    Rams payroll in 2020 and 2021 includes the following dead money:

    Todd Gurley 20.15 M // Brandin Cooks 21.8M

    Whoever is managing their cap.... shouldn't be.

    Yes, it was a good job to dump Cooks -- but the problem was signing the deals with these players in the first place.

    And see the Survey.....they are not paying Gurley the money they owe him. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    Here are the comings and goings of Browns in Free Agency:

    Joe Schobert ILB 26 CLE JAC 5 $53,750,000 $10,750,000 $21,500,000 $21,500,000 $5,400,000

    2 yr / $22,500,000

    Jack Conklin RT 26 TEN CLE 3 $42,000,000 $14,000,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 $8,000,000 2 yr / $30,000,000
    Austin Hooper TE 25 ATL CLE 4 $42,000,000 $10,500,000 $23,000,000 $18,500,000 $4,000,000 3 yr / $32,500,000
    Eric Murray FS 26 CLE HOU 3 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $10,750,000 $10,750,000 $4,390,625 2 yr / $12,640,625
    Case Keenum QB 32 WAS CLE 3 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $8,000,000 $2,833,333 2 yr / $11,500,000
    Christian Kirksey ILB 28 CLE GB 2 $13,000,000 $6,500,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $5,000,000 1 yr / $6,125,000
    Juston Burris S 27 CLE CAR 2 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,100,000 $2,100,000 $2,958,429 1 yr / $4,008,429
    Adrian Clayborn DE 32 ATL CLE 2 $5,750,000 $2,875,000 - - -  
    Andrew Billings DT 24 CIN CLE 1 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000  
    Kevin Johnson CB 28 BUF CLE 1 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $3,500,000  
    Karl Joseph SS 26 LVR CLE 1 $2,500,000 $2,500,000 $500,000 $500,000 $281,250  
    B.J. Goodson ILB 27 GB CLE 1 $2,400,000 $2,400,000 $2,250,000 $2,250,000 $2,390,625  
    Andrew Sendejo SS 32 MIN CLE 1 $2,250,000 $2,250,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $2,234,375  
    Demetrius Harris TE 29 CLE CHI 1 $1,650,000 $1,650,000 $500,000 $500,000 $1,650,000  
    Damarious Randall FS 28 CLE LVR 1 $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000  
    Justin McCray G 28 CLE ATL 1 $1,075,000 $1,075,000 $350,000 $350,000 $1,075,000  
    Travis Carrie CB 30 CLE IND 1 $1,047,500 $1,047,500 $400,000 $400,000 $887,500  
    Eric Kush G 30 CLE LVR 1 $1,047,500 $1,047,500 $137,500 $137,500 $887,500  
    Jojo Natson WR 26 LAR CLE 1 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 - - $956,250  
    Ricky Seals-Jones TE 25 CLE KC 1 $925,000 $925,000 $150,000 $150,000 $925,000  
    Evan Brown C 23 MIA CLE 1 $750,000 $750,000 - - $750,000  
    Donovan Olumba CB 24 DAL CLE 1 $610,000 $610,000 - - $610,000  
    Greg Robinson LT 27 CLE TBD -
    Morgan Burnett SS 31 CLE TBD -
    Drew Stanton QB 36 CLE TBD -
    Adarius Taylor ILB 29 CLE TBD -
    Rashard Higgins WR 25 CLE TBD -
    Bryan Cox Jr. DE 26 CLE TBD

    How will any of this affect the Browns Draft? 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper

    Following up on above:

    A. We lost  2 TEs:   Harris and Seal-Jones.   Got Hooper back.   Still have  Njoku,  Pharoah,  Carlson......I think we are in good shape here...no draft priority.

    B.  ILB:   Lost  Schobert and  Kirksey...and probably Adarious Taylor.   Got back BJ Goodson.  Still have Takitaki, and maybe Mack Wilson some.  Still a major area of need IMO

    C. Safeties:  Lost:  Murray/Burris/Randall/and Burnett.   Replaced them so far with Karl Joseph and Sandejo.  Still have Redwine.    Still an area of significant  need IMO

    D. Offensive Guard:   Lost  McCray/Kush.   No FA pickups.  Still have starters Bito/Teller and Drew Forbes.  Definite need for depth if not one starter.

    E.  Offensive Tackle:   Lost  Robinson.  Picked up Conklin.  Still have Hubbard.  Absolute area of need even with Conklin on board,  probably #1

    F.  Quarterback:   No losses....well Drew Stanton if you want to count him.    Picked up Keenum.  Still have Baker/Gilbert.    NO need here. 

    G.   Running back .  NO losses.   Still have   Chubb/Hunt (re-signed)/Hilliard/Johnson.  See NO need here.

    H. Center.     NO losses.   Picked up Evan Brown for backup.  Still have Tretter.  See NO need here. 

    I. Wide Receiver.  Higgins status up in air. May lose.   Picked up JoJo Natson, listed as WR, but to be ST/PR.  We still have   OBJ/Landry and a half dozen other backups.. of undetermined value.   Seems a minor area of need. 

    J. Defensive Tackle.  NO losses.   Picked up Andrew Billings for backup.  Have Ogunjobi/Richardson as starters, and Eli Ankou backup plus a few others.   Maybe could use a guy, but a minor priority.

    K. Defensive Ends.  Looks like we lose Brian Cox Jr.  Picked up Andrew Clayborn.   Still have Garrett, Olivier, Chad Thomas.   Clayborn over Cox should be a net gain, so it seems like we are good...but it may not hurt to get someone. 

    L. OLBs. Did not lose anyone here,  but our OLBs now are listed as Willie Harvey and  Mack Wilson.  Backups are no names like Jermaine Grace/Trevon Young.   Definite area of need IMO.

    M.  Special Teams.....no major losses.   We picked up a guy named Tavierre Thomas who is listed as top KR...and Natson is supposed to be  PR (though he is not listed there on depth chart). We have  Kicker/Punter/Holder/Long Snapper well in hand.   Punt and Kick returner?  There is Natson/Thomas...and there are guys on the depth chart  (Landry listed as our #1 PR).     We could certainly use someone...be it a guy already on the roster/draft/FA?

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    Following up on above:

    A. We lost  2 TEs:   Harris and Seal-Jones.   Got Hooper back.   Still have  Njoku,  Pharoah,  Carlson......I think we are in good shape here...no draft priority.

    We pick up  Harrison Bryant in the Draft

    B.  ILB:   Lost  Schobert and  Kirksey...and probably Adarious Taylor.   Got back BJ Goodson.  Still have Takitaki, and maybe Mack Wilson some.  Still a major area of need IMO

    We pick up  Jacob Phillips in the Draft

    C. Safeties:  Lost:  Murray/Burris/Randall/and Burnett.   Replaced them so far with Karl Joseph and Sandejo.  Still have Redwine.    Still an area of significant  need IMO

    We pick up Grant Delpit in the draft

    D. Offensive Guard:   Lost  McCray/Kush.   No FA pickups.  Still have starters Bito/Teller and Drew Forbes.  Definite need for depth if not one starter.

    We pick up  Nick Harris....maybe in draft

    E.  Offensive Tackle:   Lost  Robinson.  Picked up Conklin.  Still have Hubbard.  Absolute area of need even with Conklin on board,  probably #1

    We pick up Jedrick Wills in round one in draft.

    F.  Quarterback:   No losses....well Drew Stanton if you want to count him.    Picked up Keenum.  Still have Baker/Gilbert.    NO need here. 

    NO  pick

    G.   Running back .  NO losses.   Still have   Chubb/Hunt (re-signed)/Hilliard/Johnson.  See NO need here.

    NO pick

    H. Center.     NO losses.   Picked up Evan Brown for backup.  Still have Tretter.  See NO need here. 

    Nick Harris also plays here...backup

    I. Wide Receiver.  Higgins status up in air. May lose.   Picked up JoJo Natson, listed as WR, but to be ST/PR.  We still have   OBJ/Landry and a half dozen other backups.. of undetermined value.   Seems a minor area of need. 

    Picked up Donovan Peoples-Jones in draft.

    J. Defensive Tackle.  NO losses.   Picked up Andrew Billings for backup.  Have Ogunjobi/Richardson as starters, and Eli Ankou backup plus a few others.   Maybe could use a guy, but a minor priority.

    We pick up  Jordan Elliot 

    K. Defensive Ends.  Looks like we lose Brian Cox Jr.  Picked up Andrew Clayborn.   Still have Garrett, Olivier, Chad Thomas.   Clayborn over Cox should be a net gain, so it seems like we are good...but it may not hurt to get someone. 

    NOT addressed. 

    L. OLBs. Did not lose anyone here,  but our OLBs now are listed as Willie Harvey and  Mack Wilson.  Backups are no names like Jermaine Grace/Trevon Young.   Definite area of need IMO.

    NOT addressed

    M.  Special Teams.....no major losses.   We picked up a guy named Tavierre Thomas who is listed as top KR...and Natson is supposed to be  PR (though he is not listed there on depth chart). We have  Kicker/Punter/Holder/Long Snapper well in hand.   Punt and Kick returner?  There is Natson/Thomas...and there are guys on the depth chart  (Landry listed as our #1 PR).     We could certainly use someone...be it a guy already on the roster/draft/FA?

    Peoples-Jones  has  Punt return experience and skills. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    So.....after our Draft....(and UDFA pickup..but won't count all that)

    Where do the Browns still need to supplement their roster/depth chart  with  Veteran Free Agents.   

    They did NOT address the "Edge" Position:   DE/OLB.

    There are some guys still out there, veteran FAs.   Should they go after someone for the Edge   (Clowney/Matthews)....or  a WR  (Higgins)

    .....or any other position,  or anyone else you think we should pursue?

  • So.....after our Draft....(and UDFA pickup..but won't count all that)

    Where do the Browns still need to supplement their roster/depth chart  with  Veteran Free Agents.   

    They did NOT address the "Edge" Position:   DE/OLB.

    There are some guys still out there, veteran FAs.   Should they go after someone for the Edge   (Clowney/Matthews)....or  a WR  (Higgins)

    .....or any other position,  or anyone else you think we should pursue?

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    So.....after our Draft....(and UDFA pickup..but won't count all that)

    Where do the Browns still need to supplement their roster/depth chart  with  Veteran Free Agents.   

    They did NOT address the "Edge" Position:   DE/OLB.

    There are some guys still out there, veteran FAs.   Should they go after someone for the Edge   (Clowney/Matthews)....or  a WR  (Higgins)

    .....or any other position,  or anyone else you think we should pursue?

    Veteran LB.  
    Clowney for Vernon.

    Sign Hollywood.