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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    We just lost 2 safeties.    Murray and Burris

    https://sports.yahoo.com/texans-agree-terms-eric-murray-002425672.html

    Do we still have Randall? (Maybe, but I think he is also a FA).     Only other guy is Redwine.  

    We are really hurting at that spot. 

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      Free agent safeties still out there the Browns could pick up:

      Jimmie Ward.....49ers

      HaHa Dix.....Bears

      Rodney McCleod ....Eagles

      Vonn Bell.....Saints

      Adrian Phillips....Chargers

      Karl Joseph.....Raiders

      Sean Davis....Steelers

      Out of this group, could we get back better than we lost....if we sign a couple?

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        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Ward seems logical.

        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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          htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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          Lol.  Or not.

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28914354/49ers-re-signing-safety-jimmie-ward-3-years-source-says%3fplatform=amp

          “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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            I've always liked HaHa. But the price may be too high when we are coming up on a new Garrett contract soon. God forbid they use him for trade/money value instead of retaining him. But who knows?

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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                Bold prediction...they will trade a 3rd round pick for Anthony Harris from MN...

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                  Bold prediction...they will trade a 3rd round pick for Anthony Harris from MN...

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @bigalow80 said:

                  Bold prediction...they will trade a 3rd round pick for Anthony Harris from MN...

                  Harris was just franchise tagged by MN, I believe. 

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                    B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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                    Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

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                      One PostO One Post wrote on last edited by
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                      Draft one like every other team does. 

                      https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks
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                        Draft one like every other team does. 

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @one-post said:

                        Draft one like every other team does. 

                        One?  We need like 3.   In addition to that  LT...and those few LBs we need. 

                        Do you expect a 5th/6th/7th rounder to start? 

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                          Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                          @bigalow80 said:

                          Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

                          Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                          https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                          The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                          OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

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                            @bigalow80 said:

                            Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

                            Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                            https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                            The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                            OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                            https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                            The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                            OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

                            The team acquiring the player is still obligated to the franchise tag salary. However, they are able to negotiate a deal with them up until the July Franchise deadline. The seahawks traded for clowney last year and were unable to negotiate a long term deal but still paid him under the franchise tender. The 49ers traded for Clark last year and were able to sign him long term. Most of the time when a team is trading for a franchise player they have already had conversations with the agent so they have a general idea of what it is going to take to sign the player long term.

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                              @bigalow80 said:

                              Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

                              Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                              https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                              The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                              OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

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                              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                              https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                              The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                              OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

                              IIRC, they can renegotiate  a deal, then trade him. We aren't  giving up  a first round pick  for him. 

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Yes,  I guess they just wanted to assure that they got something back for Harris instead of losing him for nothing:

                                https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-tagged-anthony-harris-available-104659577.html

                                The issue there is that with the tag....comes an 11.5 million salary.

                                OR...question:    If a player is given the franchise tag.....and then the team that tags him trades him....is the team that trades for him still obligated to pay him the Franchise Tag salary?  Or, are they free to negotiate? 

                                IIRC, they can renegotiate  a deal, then trade him. We aren't  giving up  a first round pick  for him. 

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @hoorta said:

                                IIRC, they can renegotiate  a deal, then trade him. We aren't  giving up  a first round pick  for him. 

                                Oh, hell no.  It was reported that they would take a mid round pick.

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                                  @hoorta said:

                                  IIRC, they can renegotiate  a deal, then trade him. We aren't  giving up  a first round pick  for him. 

                                  Oh, hell no.  It was reported that they would take a mid round pick.

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Oh, hell no.  It was reported that they would take a mid round pick.

                                  We have an extra third courtesy of the Patriots. 

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Oh, hell no.  It was reported that they would take a mid round pick.

                                    We have an extra third courtesy of the Patriots. 

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @hoorta said:

                                    We have an extra third courtesy of the Patriots. 

                                    That could work....if the money also works.  And while I simply hate having to worry about the money....it is a major factor.

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                                      LMAO.... Funniest post of the YTD...

                                      ... but I had no reactions left for the day so I owe you one... at least one...

                                      Remind me tomorrow?

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                                      Edit: Well it's tomorrow on the East Coast, so just paid the debt...

                                      Still funny as hell...

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                                        @one-post said:

                                        Draft one like every other team does. 

                                        One?  We need like 3.   In addition to that  LT...and those few LBs we need. 

                                        Do you expect a 5th/6th/7th rounder to start? 

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        One?  We need like 3.  

                                        New Defense you've invented?

                                        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                          Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          @bigalow80 said:

                                          Exactly why they would have to trade for him..I saw that MN would be willing to let him go for a mid-round pick...Not so sure now that they traded Diggs and got some draft picks back but they are still in salary cap hell.

                                          @bigalow80 said:

                                          The team acquiring the player is still obligated to the franchise tag salary. However, they are able to negotiate a deal with them up until the July Franchise deadline. The seahawks traded for clowney last year and were unable to negotiate a long term deal but still paid him under the franchise tender. The 49ers traded for Clark last year and were able to sign him long term. Most of the time when a team is trading for a franchise player they have already had conversations with the agent so they have a general idea of what it is going to take to sign the player long term.

                                          Upvote worthy stuff... owe you one as well.

                                          A lot of times contract length plus guaranteed money bring that annual salary down.

                                          That said... we have some big paydays just 'round the corner.

                                          Whatever we are paying our cap-master... he's going to be earning it these next few years.

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